A word on Hate...

[Great Minarchistan]

As for my happiness or purpose in life? Edit: I have nothing anymore. The worldbuilding project that my NS nation is a part of is literally the only thing thats keeping me alive. The feelings of pure hopelessness I've had the past several months I would not wish on anyone.

Sadly, I am going through the same situation, plus I have a massive backlog of things I want to do, but unable to do so due to fatigue and yes, despair. I should be doing the things I need to do soon, because at present I am in a perilous state, living in a country where the stereotype of benefits claimants being "lazy people" prevails.

At best, I probably only have 7 to 12 years left to live, I don't want to have to bother with the fear of retiring in the same situation as I am now. Maybe I won't make it to 2020 if I remain in the UK, given that I have lost a lot of appetite, stopped sleeping properly, and increasingly self-harmed myself over the last few months.

That is the devastating impact of racial hatred.

Holy, how old are you?

[Luminesa]

I'm fine with hatred if it's used well. Hate can be very productive, and a spur too all kinds of positive actions.

Hatred of slavery, diseases and plagues was probably a great help in ridding us of all manner of those things. As it should be. Hatred of tyranny or injustice compels us too prosecute war criminals and despots.

I'm fine with any hatred that achieves such results. As I said, when used properly, hatred can be a very useful and powerful spur to all kinds of action.

I'm not big on this whole 'love thine enemies' nonsense, if I loved them, they wouldn't be my enemies in the first place, as I've argued here before. But my hatred of some of those I consider my enemies and their actions is a powerful spur for getting up in the morning and doing what I can too thwart them.

Hatred should have good reason, but if it does, nothing wrong with it, it's as necessary an emotion as love. All this "Love beats Hate" is fairly mushy nonsense, both are necessary to a degree I think, and both are part of being human.

...Ahhhh...I'm honestly not sure what to say to this, as someone who does think love conquers hatred, and who has seen it proven in my life to conquer hate or strains in relationships. I only hope one day, you will wake up and see it happening somewhere as well. Because it really is a beautiful thing. Nothing feels better than getting up in the morning knowing that you can take that day, show someone love, and perhaps build a bridge where a bridge has not been built. Or you can get to know someone better. You might even fall in love. As mushy as all of that may sound, hate might be something to get up for, but love is something to live for. That's how I see it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Anyway, it's my estimation that we all eventually transition out of the hate everything phase. Or at least, many people do. Sadly, some only go from that phase to the ''jaded'' phase but it seems to me like the older you get, the less willing you are to expend energy hating certain ideas. And that doesn't mean you accept them, or that you're ok with these. It just means you just focus on other issues. Of course, I may be wrong. Or rather, my outlook is not shared by everyone.

Not gonna lie, there are some things I have become jaded about in recent years, but I have no idea what to do about that. But yeah, I do agree with you, since I've found myself less willing to spend so much energy on hating certain things in life.

Honestly, I can't blame you having become jaded at times. Many of us are, for whatever reasons. It's the current climate, socially. If we allow ourselves to get too invested, emotionally, then we just end up getting screwed.

It's not, however, that I think we should be emotionless. Or careless. But, like you said, it's a matter of willingness in spending energy on things that perhaps do not matter as much. Because what's the point? It's better to pick and choose our battles.

[Arkinesia]

Just fight em' back. I'm a right-winger/centrist, and I'm certainly not gonna call you a "lib-tard".

Most right-wingers I've met on this forum don't engage in blatant trolling or flaming. But their mere presence on the site - and their audacity to present and discuss their own ideas and opinions - is considered repugnant to those who think said ideas/concepts are evil.

This goes especially for people who espouse various authoritarian forms of right-wing ideologies, namely fascism or something theocratic like Christian nationalism.

It doesn't matter if their opinions are presented in a civil manner. The very fact that they're being presented at all is, like I said, unacceptable to a specific vocal minority that would have it otherwise.

I don't have a problem with people presenting beliefs or ideas that are not the same as mine. But the things you listed are all things which are extreme and worse still completely unworkable concepts.

This is why people like me are so vicious in response to creationism, dominionism, etc. Because these are backwater ideologies driven by fiction. We cannot have literal fiction running our governmental systems and institutions.

[Minoa]

Sadly, I am going through the same situation, plus I have a massive backlog of things I want to do, but unable to do so due to fatigue and yes, despair. I should be doing the things I need to do soon, because at present I am in a perilous state, living in a country where the stereotype of benefits claimants being "lazy people" prevails.

At best, I probably only have 7 to 12 years left to live, I don't want to have to bother with the fear of retiring in the same situation as I am now. Maybe I won't make it to 2020 if I remain in the UK, given that I have lost a lot of appetite, stopped sleeping properly, and increasingly self-harmed myself over the last few months.

That is the devastating impact of racial hatred.

Holy, how old are you?

Between 25 and 30. For confidentiality reasons, that is all I can tell.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Holy, how old are you?

Between 25 and 30. For confidentiality reasons, that is all I can tell.

It's Nationstates, nobody cares who you are.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Holy, how old are you?

Between 25 and 30. For confidentiality reasons, that is all I can tell.

Huh, we're about the same age...

[The Feylands]

I'm soon gonna be 25. I also have ADHD so maybe I'm disabled as well. Are you happy now?

Maybe I should start using that as an argument for why you can't disagree with me.

Seriously mate: my greatest condolences if that is the case, but if you're not suffering from cancer or something that's actually definitely gonna kill you - please don't tell people you have "7 to 12 years to live". You're not being fair to people's natural empathy for someone in that condition, if that is not the case. Depression is horrible but luckily one of the most researched mental conditions and among those were one can get the best help. People from all over the political spectrum are certainly affected by political decisions in a way that affects their feelings and state of mind negatively. I have never been so angry nor felt such despair myself since the mass immigration crisis here in Sweden. I have had horrible thoughts I wouldn't want to share with anybody. Yet... I survive. Having a condition like mine is btw. not fun to say the least when trying to deal with the bureaucratic nightmare of the welfare state and the best way to not have to deal with that is to get a job - even if it's tough for people like me to have a good night's sleep and get up in the morning on time. Nobody has ever "taken care" of me. They're all busy caring for fake refugees or (hopefully) disabled people who are a lot worse off (although I do know the later have suffered horribly from this as well ). Yet... I still survive and manage to go to work as well!

The beauty of living in a democracy is that we can all confront bad ideas and bad arguments and try to convince people that they are wrong, instead of banning people from expressing what their hearts are full of. Some of us might have had boyfriends who acted like "if you leave me I kill myself" while being the kind of person who would die than kill themselves, and might be a bit "resistant" (or maybe even a bit ticked off honestly) of ways of using emotional blackmail like that. With all due respect, but if you get serious mental issues by hearing that people like Trump, Brexit, etc. maybe you shouldn't be spending your time at a place where people do that...? Please don't hesitate to seek professional help if you're hurting yourself, not eating or really feeling suicidal as a result of other people having opinions that you strongly disagree with! You deserve the chance to enjoy this life as much as you can... for what do I know.. even if I believe in God, we both know that this certainly the only chance we know 100% we got to enjoy creation. Use it!

[Calladan]

I'm soon gonna be 25. I also have ADHD so maybe I'm disabled as well. Are you happy now?

Maybe I should start using that as an argument for why you can't disagree with me.

Seriously mate: my greatest condolences if that is the case, but if you're not suffering from cancer or something that's actually definitely gonna kill you - please don't tell people you have "7 to 12 years to live". You're not being fair to people's natural empathy for someone in that condition, if that is not the case. Depression is horrible but luckily one of the most researched mental conditions and among those were one can get the best help. People from all over the political spectrum are certainly affected by political decisions in a way that affects their feelings and state of mind negatively. I have never been so angry nor felt such despair myself since the mass immigration crisis here in Sweden. I have had horrible thoughts I wouldn't want to share with anybody. Yet... I survive. Having a condition like mine is btw. not fun to say the least when trying to deal with the bureaucratic nightmare of the welfare state and the best way to not have to deal with that is to get a job - even if it's tough for people like me to have a good night's sleep and get up in the morning on time. Nobody has ever "taken care" of me. They're all busy caring for fake refugees or (hopefully) disabled people who are a lot worse off (although I do know the later have suffered horribly from this as well ). Yet... I still survive and manage to go to work as well!

The beauty of living in a democracy is that we can all confront bad ideas and bad arguments and try to convince people that they are wrong, instead of banning people from expressing what their hearts are full of. Some of us might have had boyfriends who acted like "if you leave me I kill myself" while being the kind of person who would die than kill themselves, and might be a bit "resistant" (or maybe even a bit ticked off honestly) of ways of using emotional blackmail like that. With all due respect, but if you get serious mental issues by hearing that people like Trump, Brexit, etc. maybe you shouldn't be spending your time at a place where people do that...? Please don't hesitate to seek professional help if you're hurting yourself, not eating or really feeling suicidal as a result of other people having opinions that you strongly disagree with! You deserve the chance to enjoy this life as much as you can... for what do I know.. even if I believe in God, we both know that this certainly the only chance we know 100% we got to enjoy creation. Use it!

Have you entirely missed the point????

Look back through this thread to where I was the only black guy in a town that elected the KKK/BNP as the government and reread that post. Then come back and mock someone who you think "hates the result of Brexit".

Jesus.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I'm soon gonna be 25. I also have ADHD so maybe I'm disabled as well. Are you happy now?

Maybe I should start using that as an argument for why you can't disagree with me.

Seriously mate: my greatest condolences if that is the case, but if you're not suffering from cancer or something that's actually definitely gonna kill you - please don't tell people you have "7 to 12 years to live". You're not being fair to people's natural empathy for someone in that condition, if that is not the case. Depression is horrible but luckily one of the most researched mental conditions and among those were one can get the best help. People from all over the political spectrum are certainly affected by political decisions in a way that affects their feelings and state of mind negatively. I have never been so angry nor felt such despair myself since the mass immigration crisis here in Sweden. I have had horrible thoughts I wouldn't want to share with anybody. Yet... I survive. Having a condition like mine is btw. not fun to say the least when trying to deal with the bureaucratic nightmare of the welfare state and the best way to not have to deal with that is to get a job - even if it's tough for people like me to have a good night's sleep and get up in the morning on time. Nobody has ever "taken care" of me. They're all busy caring for fake refugees or (hopefully) disabled people who are a lot worse off (although I do know the later have suffered horribly from this as well ). Yet... I still survive and manage to go to work as well!

The beauty of living in a democracy is that we can all confront bad ideas and bad arguments and try to convince people that they are wrong, instead of banning people from expressing what their hearts are full of. Some of us might have had boyfriends who acted like "if you leave me I kill myself" while being the kind of person who would die than kill themselves, and might be a bit "resistant" (or maybe even a bit ticked off honestly) of ways of using emotional blackmail like that. With all due respect, but if you get serious mental issues by hearing that people like Trump, Brexit, etc. maybe you shouldn't be spending your time at a place where people do that...? Please don't hesitate to seek professional help if you're hurting yourself, not eating or really feeling suicidal as a result of other people having opinions that you strongly disagree with! You deserve the chance to enjoy this life as much as you can... for what do I know.. even if I believe in God, we both know that this certainly the only chance we know 100% we got to enjoy creation. Use it!

As someone who has been with women who have disabilities due to disease (one epilepsy, another one a cancer survivor) this really comes across as exceedingly callous and arrogant, and I'm an arrogant prick.

You, who claim that you have ADHD, should know how to phrase your shit better. Cause what you just wrote doesn't help anyone.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Have you entirely missed the point????

Look back through this thread to where I was the only black guy in a town that elected the KKK/BNP as the government and reread that post. Then come back and mock someone who you think "hates the result of Brexit".

Jesus.

The real problem here is that she's sanctimoniously sitting here trying to be an armchair counselor/life coach when she can hardly make people warm up to her commentary.

The problem is not her missing the point. She got the point, she just apparently took the approach of "awh that's too bad mate, but unless you're dying of cancer I'd suggest you harden the fuck up, because we all got it hard".

Which is arrogant as well as it is callous when dealing with such a subject. I mean, I know I am an asshole, and if you see my post history, I am callous, I am an asshole, but I don't try to kick people while they're down. Even to the people whom I've had bitter disagreements with on this site, and people who have outright called me scumbag, asshole, stupid, and so on, I don't try to hound them when they feel down, which is, you know, the least I can do. I give people enough shit as it is on a daily basis by disagreeing with them, they don't need me to pipe into their private lives by telling them to harden the fuck up.

[Old Varegia]

Abortion isn't murder.

I bet you can't stand watching a movie of what it looks like or wouldn't object to having pictures of the remains of aborted babies around you. It's a truly barbaric murder of a small human being and nothing else.

As for burkas... reason number 1 to ban the burka isn't because of protection from terrorism (although that is a reason as well) but because it's part of an oppressive, fascist system that has no place in Europe or any other part of the civilized world just like publicly wearing a swastika.

Why does nobody know what fascism is?

[Calladan]

I bet you can't stand watching a movie of what it looks like or wouldn't object to having pictures of the remains of aborted babies around you. It's a truly barbaric murder of a small human being and nothing else.

As for burkas... reason number 1 to ban the burka isn't because of protection from terrorism (although that is a reason as well) but because it's part of an oppressive, fascist system that has no place in Europe or any other part of the civilized world just like publicly wearing a swastika.

Why does nobody know what fascism is?

Because we did such a good job stamping it out that now people have to make up new definitions and tend to make up whatever they want to demonise?

[The Christonian Imperium]

With all due respect, the Brexit and Trump gave hate groups the confidence they needed to push their anti-Muslim, anti-LGBT, anti-disabled agenda, and without an "all hands on deck" response to counter that threat, the hate groups can be very effective. Vassenor, can you back me up on this?

I don't agree with two of those agendas

[Luminesa]

I'm soon gonna be 25. I also have ADHD so maybe I'm disabled as well. Are you happy now?

Maybe I should start using that as an argument for why you can't disagree with me.

Seriously mate: my greatest condolences if that is the case, but if you're not suffering from cancer or something that's actually definitely gonna kill you - please don't tell people you have "7 to 12 years to live". You're not being fair to people's natural empathy for someone in that condition, if that is not the case. Depression is horrible but luckily one of the most researched mental conditions and among those were one can get the best help. People from all over the political spectrum are certainly affected by political decisions in a way that affects their feelings and state of mind negatively. I have never been so angry nor felt such despair myself since the mass immigration crisis here in Sweden. I have had horrible thoughts I wouldn't want to share with anybody. Yet... I survive. Having a condition like mine is btw. not fun to say the least when trying to deal with the bureaucratic nightmare of the welfare state and the best way to not have to deal with that is to get a job - even if it's tough for people like me to have a good night's sleep and get up in the morning on time. Nobody has ever "taken care" of me. They're all busy caring for fake refugees or (hopefully) disabled people who are a lot worse off (although I do know the later have suffered horribly from this as well ). Yet... I still survive and manage to go to work as well!

The beauty of living in a democracy is that we can all confront bad ideas and bad arguments and try to convince people that they are wrong, instead of banning people from expressing what their hearts are full of. Some of us might have had boyfriends who acted like "if you leave me I kill myself" while being the kind of person who would die than kill themselves, and might be a bit "resistant" (or maybe even a bit ticked off honestly) of ways of using emotional blackmail like that. With all due respect, but if you get serious mental issues by hearing that people like Trump, Brexit, etc. maybe you shouldn't be spending your time at a place where people do that...? Please don't hesitate to seek professional help if you're hurting yourself, not eating or really feeling suicidal as a result of other people having opinions that you strongly disagree with! You deserve the chance to enjoy this life as much as you can... for what do I know.. even if I believe in God, we both know that this certainly the only chance we know 100% we got to enjoy creation. Use it!

ADHD is not a terminal illness. It is a behavioral disorder, and one that can be easily controlled. Min might have something far more serious than yourself. You have no right to simply say, "Don't say you have X years to live," if you don't know how long they have to live. Yes, Min can get help, but you really don't have to be so rude about it.

[The Feylands]

Wow – I managed to get a lot of you guys "triggered", didn't I?

You know what I'm tired of? Feeling guilt. Feeling guilt for standing up for western liberal democracy and being called a fascist or racist. Feeling guilt for being afraid of rapes, murders or the muggings that we've got now in my neighbourhood that never was here before - and being called someone who's listening to “fake news”. Feeling guilt for being angry about money that was meant for say disabled people going to fortune-seekers which is gonna lead us to "salvation" according to some perverse, unnatural political dogma. Feeling guilt for not believing in the cultural left's unholy dogma of a world without borders, sexes, families, nations or religions that is being bought to us through our suffering. For not believing in the emotional manipulation and demonization that separates people from family members and friends like members of the Scientology cult. For simply wanting to live in peace and eventually build a family in a world where my people gets the same respect as any others.

Another thing I'm tired of is people telling me I should feel guilt for offending their feelings for stating an opinion. I'll never be asking people about their private lives as it doesn't really concern me: but are they gonna use that as an argument, and talk about things like not eating or hurting themselves which I might actually know something about – I'm gonna give them whatever advice I can and then ask them to not use that as a political argument. All of us suffer in different ways from what's happening in the politics of our country. I have the greatest respect for people not feeling well on a psychiatric level - but not using that as a political argument. It's not doing any of us who have varying needs of help any good. It's making others not taking those issues serious anymore.

I get that the “BNP/KKK” could be a metaphor. I have my reservations about the French Front National or whatever. If you're really living in the free world, I hope there's a state protecting your rights – and if not, please do alert whatever anti-racist organizations like the SLPC or whatever there are in your country, and the police if necessary. No one should have to be afraid of living in a certain neighbourhood.

In my own constituency, a majority of the voters voted for an agenda that may have me raped or even murdered and mugged and have my home plundered for the sake of "equality". No one cares about my feelings on the matter - they're all full of their own. I swear I hope I don't hate them and just find them misguided, but I don't know if I'm being serious with myself. I might move to my ancestral hometown an hour away. Which might be the wisest thing to do if it comes to that. I have a couple of friends here who share my values, and that's really what's prevented me so far.

All I'm saying is: don't use people's empathy. Don't pressure people on an emotional level in the lines of insinuating that “if you vote a certain what you're the cause of my mental difficulties” or voting for an “anti-disabled agenda” (!!). We don't wanna be b̶o̶y̶ girl calling wolf story when we might be the people who'll be calling for help against the wolf for real one day.

[Calladan]

Wow – I managed to get a lot of you guys "triggered", didn't I?

You know what I'm tired of? Feeling guilt. Feeling guilt for standing up for western liberal democracy and being called a fascist or racist. Feeling guilt for being afraid of rapes, murders or the muggings that we've got now in my neighbourhood that never was here before - and being called someone who's listening to “fake news”. Feeling guilt for being angry about money that was meant for say disabled people going to fortune-seekers which is gonna lead us to "salvation" according to some perverse, unnatural political dogma. Feeling guilt for not believing in the cultural left's unholy dogma of a world without borders, sexes, families, nations or religions that is being bought to us through our suffering. For not believing in the emotional manipulation and demonization that separates people from family members and friends like members of the Scientology cult. For simply wanting to live in peace and eventually build a family in a world where my people gets the same respect as any others.

Another thing I'm tired of is people telling me I should feel guilt for offending their feelings for stating an opinion. I'll never be asking people about their private lives as it doesn't really concern me: but are they gonna use that as an argument, and talk about things like not eating or hurting themselves which I might actually know something about – I'm gonna give them whatever advice I can and then ask them to not use that as a political argument. All of us suffer in different ways from what's happening in the politics of our country. I have the greatest respect for people not feeling well on a psychiatric level - but not using that as a political argument. It's not doing any of us who have varying needs of help any good. It's making others not taking those issues serious anymore.

I get that the “BNP/KKK” could be a metaphor. I have my reservations about the French Front National or whatever. If you're really living in the free world, I hope there's a state protecting your rights – and if not, please do alert whatever anti-racist organizations like the SLPC or whatever there are in your country, and the police if necessary. No one should have to be afraid of living in a certain neighbourhood.

In my own constituency, a majority of the voters voted for an agenda that may have me raped or even murdered and mugged and have my home plundered for the sake of "equality". No one cares about my feelings on the matter - they're all full of their own. I swear I hope I don't hate them and just find them misguided, but I don't know if I'm being serious with myself. I might move to my ancestral hometown an hour away. Which might be the wisest thing to do if it comes to that. I have a couple of friends here who share my values, and that's really what's prevented me so far.

All I'm saying is: don't use people's empathy. Don't pressure people on an emotional level in the lines of insinuating that “if you vote a certain what you're the cause of my mental difficulties” or voting for an “anti-disabled agenda” (!!). We don't wanna be b̶o̶y̶ girl calling wolf story when we might be the people who'll be calling for help against the wolf for real one day.

Seriously, how are you so good at completely missing the point?

Go back to my hypothetical example. Where I live in a city where the entire population, in a free and fair election, votes a government into power that wants to kill me. I don't blame the voters - it is their choice who they vote for. However the resulting government scares the ever loving shit out of me. THAT is what is terrifying the life out of me, and that is what I am currently blaming for my fear - the government. Not the people who put the government in power, but the ACTUAL government.

Since Brexit in the UK, hate crimes have gone up like a gazillion percent. Muslim CHILDREN are being targeted by bullies and abusive fucks who seem to think it is open season on anyone with brown skin - children who have done nothing wrong, other than being born.

This has FUCK ALL to do with democracy, FUCK ALL to do with liberal values, FUCK ALL to do with free and fair elections and FUCK ALL to do with fair and free referendums.

It has to do with racist, bigoted twats who have taken the results of the free and fair elections as a signal that they can expand their racist, bigoted agenda as far as they want.

And I am not blaming the people who voted for Brexit. I am blaming the people who are being racist NOW. I am blaming the kids who are bullying Muslim children NOW. I am blaming the tools, dickwhits, racist, idiots and morons who are being racist fucks NOW.

Get it yet?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Wow – I managed to get a lot of you guys "triggered", didn't I?

You know what I'm tired of? Feeling guilt. Feeling guilt for standing up for western liberal democracy and being called a fascist or racist. Feeling guilt for being afraid of rapes, murders or the muggings that we've got now in my neighbourhood that never was here before - and being called someone who's listening to “fake news”. Feeling guilt for being angry about money that was meant for say disabled people going to fortune-seekers which is gonna lead us to "salvation" according to some perverse, unnatural political dogma. Feeling guilt for not believing in the cultural left's unholy dogma of a world without borders, sexes, families, nations or religions that is being bought to us through our suffering. For not believing in the emotional manipulation and demonization that separates people from family members and friends like members of the Scientology cult. For simply wanting to live in peace and eventually build a family in a world where my people gets the same respect as any others.

Another thing I'm tired of is people telling me I should feel guilt for offending their feelings for stating an opinion. I'll never be asking people about their private lives as it doesn't really concern me: but are they gonna use that as an argument, and talk about things like not eating or hurting themselves which I might actually know something about – I'm gonna give them whatever advice I can and then ask them to not use that as a political argument. All of us suffer in different ways from what's happening in the politics of our country. I have the greatest respect for people not feeling well on a psychiatric level - but not using that as a political argument. It's not doing any of us who have varying needs of help any good. It's making others not taking those issues serious anymore.

I get that the “BNP/KKK” could be a metaphor. I have my reservations about the French Front National or whatever. If you're really living in the free world, I hope there's a state protecting your rights – and if not, please do alert whatever anti-racist organizations like the SLPC or whatever there are in your country, and the police if necessary. No one should have to be afraid of living in a certain neighbourhood.

In my own constituency, a majority of the voters voted for an agenda that may have me raped or even murdered and mugged and have my home plundered for the sake of "equality". No one cares about my feelings on the matter - they're all full of their own. I swear I hope I don't hate them and just find them misguided, but I don't know if I'm being serious with myself. I might move to my ancestral hometown an hour away. Which might be the wisest thing to do if it comes to that. I have a couple of friends here who share my values, and that's really what's prevented me so far.

All I'm saying is: don't use people's empathy. Don't pressure people on an emotional level in the lines of insinuating that “if you vote a certain what you're the cause of my mental difficulties” or voting for an “anti-disabled agenda” (!!). We don't wanna be b̶o̶y̶ girl calling wolf story when we might be the people who'll be calling for help against the wolf for real one day.

Really? How did you get from my point, or from Luminesa's, that we're "triggered".

We're just telling you that you're coming across as callous, not to mention arrogant. It's not my personal problem you have issues with reading comprehension, so get off that high fucking horse you're apparently trying to ride on. Nobody really gives a fuck about your moral indignation about shit.

You come here and say "don't use empathy!" and yet you're here dragging your moral spiel against anything you don't like and that has nothing to do with the thread. Do us all a favor, and go back and read our objections. Actually read them. And once you do, come back and try to understand that the problem is not your difference of opinion. It's your callousness and cavalier attitude about the situation. Meanwhile, you're just a young lady who has no fucking clue of what she's talking about. I've tried to be nice, and that didn't work. I am done being nice. Go back and read, or otherwise take the shit without screaming "YOU'RE SO TRIGGERED OMG!", because nobody cares about your opinion if all you got behind your opinion is thinly-laced shit flinging towards people you don't know, and you don't care to know, beyond "eat a fucking bag of concrete and harden the fuck up". Having an opinion is fine. You're not coming across as someone who has an opinion. You come across as someone with an axe to grind towards people who are different than you, and if this is the case, I don't have to respect your opinion just because it is an opinion. It's actually not that hard to phrase your commentary in a way that's not callous and cavalier so people react better to what you have to say because, really, you're not typing for yourself. I'm typing in a rude manner to make a point, but I am not typing just so only I can make sense of what I'm saying.

I can understand your situation, and my empathies, but let me tell you something: I've had people pin me against the wall for a difference in opinion. I've had people threaten to kick my ass, even amongst my family, for a difference in opinion, or because, in their opinion "I can't take a joke". Don't come here all sanctimonious and try to preach about how you're so oppressed and we just all need to harden the fuck up, because you don't know the shoes we're walking on. I hope to fucking God you never have to walk a mile in mine. My rights are protected by the government of the United States, yes. But all of that doesn't matter because tonight someone can shoot me dead in the streets and those rights meant nothing. For the record, I am not disabled, I've just had a shitty life I don't wish upon anyone.

So, please, stop trying to make yourself the victim here. I'm not. All I am telling you is, I am an asshole and not even I come here and kick someone while they're down. If I don't do it and I've been labeled as a scumbag in this forum and as an asshole and stupid, what makes you think it is acceptable to do that?

I mean, if you think being this woman with a chip on her shoulder that can take on the entire liberal community in NS without having to worry about her tone, or about certain unspoken camaraderie even when either side is embattled with one another, is amusing to you, or even to your interests to be here, you can go ahead and dismiss me as cuckoo, or an idiot, or a random on the internet who is an asshole to you, or whatever. I don't want to know if you do, and I don't care about which category of <insert curse word here> you put me into. However, I had to address this just as I do with other people who do the same.

[AiliailiA]

Between 25 and 30. For confidentiality reasons, that is all I can tell.

It's Nationstates, nobody cares who you are.

If the poster doesnt' want to give an exact age, you should respect that. What Minoa says here can be connected to other things the same person has said on different services and there is literally NO privacy here. Every word written can be seen by anyone on the internet, NS member or not.

Your own candour about personal details is rather remarkable, considering you hold a firearm license of some kind and have come pretty close to advocating people break firearms laws (which if you did, would lose you that license). Well you can play fast and loose like that if you want, but don't advise others to do what isn't in their own interests.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Wow – I managed to get a lot of you guys "triggered", didn't I?

You know what I'm tired of? Feeling guilt. Feeling guilt for standing up for western liberal democracy and being called a fascist or racist. Feeling guilt for being afraid of rapes, murders or the muggings that we've got now in my neighbourhood that never was here before - and being called someone who's listening to “fake news”. Feeling guilt for being angry about money that was meant for say disabled people going to fortune-seekers which is gonna lead us to "salvation" according to some perverse, unnatural political dogma. Feeling guilt for not believing in the cultural left's unholy dogma of a world without borders, sexes, families, nations or religions that is being bought to us through our suffering. For not believing in the emotional manipulation and demonization that separates people from family members and friends like members of the Scientology cult. For simply wanting to live in peace and eventually build a family in a world where my people gets the same respect as any others.

Another thing I'm tired of is people telling me I should feel guilt for offending their feelings for stating an opinion. I'll never be asking people about their private lives as it doesn't really concern me: but are they gonna use that as an argument, and talk about things like not eating or hurting themselves which I might actually know something about – I'm gonna give them whatever advice I can and then ask them to not use that as a political argument. All of us suffer in different ways from what's happening in the politics of our country. I have the greatest respect for people not feeling well on a psychiatric level - but not using that as a political argument. It's not doing any of us who have varying needs of help any good. It's making others not taking those issues serious anymore.

I get that the “BNP/KKK” could be a metaphor. I have my reservations about the French Front National or whatever. If you're really living in the free world, I hope there's a state protecting your rights – and if not, please do alert whatever anti-racist organizations like the SLPC or whatever there are in your country, and the police if necessary. No one should have to be afraid of living in a certain neighbourhood.

In my own constituency, a majority of the voters voted for an agenda that may have me raped or even murdered and mugged and have my home plundered for the sake of "equality". No one cares about my feelings on the matter - they're all full of their own. I swear I hope I don't hate them and just find them misguided, but I don't know if I'm being serious with myself. I might move to my ancestral hometown an hour away. Which might be the wisest thing to do if it comes to that. I have a couple of friends here who share my values, and that's really what's prevented me so far.

All I'm saying is: don't use people's empathy. Don't pressure people on an emotional level in the lines of insinuating that “if you vote a certain what you're the cause of my mental difficulties” or voting for an “anti-disabled agenda” (!!). We don't wanna be b̶o̶y̶ girl calling wolf story when we might be the people who'll be calling for help against the wolf for real one day.

Seriously, how are you so good at completely missing the point?

Go back to my hypothetical example. Where I live in a city where the entire population, in a free and fair election, votes a government into power that wants to kill me. I don't blame the voters - it is their choice who they vote for. However the resulting government scares the ever loving shit out of me. THAT is what is terrifying the life out of me, and that is what I am currently blaming for my fear - the government. Not the people who put the government in power, but the ACTUAL government.

Since Brexit in the UK, hate crimes have gone up like a gazillion percent. Muslim CHILDREN are being targeted by bullies and abusive fucks who seem to think it is open season on anyone with brown skin - children who have done nothing wrong, other than being born.

This has FUCK ALL to do with democracy, FUCK ALL to do with liberal values, FUCK ALL to do with free and fair elections and FUCK ALL to do with fair and free referendums.

It has to do with racist, bigoted twats who have taken the results of the free and fair elections as a signal that they can expand their racist, bigoted agenda as far as they want.

And I am not blaming the people who voted for Brexit. I am blaming the people who are being racist NOW. I am blaming the kids who are bullying Muslim children NOW. I am blaming the tools, dickwhits, racist, idiots and morons who are being racist fucks NOW.

Get it yet?

I think you're missing the point of her post, here.

Her point, as it comes across, isn't about what you're trying to reply her on.

[MERIZoC]

Between 25 and 30. For confidentiality reasons, that is all I can tell.

It's Nationstates, nobody cares who you are.

Washington Doxxing Army


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[Great Minarchistan]

I'm soon gonna be 25. I also have ADHD so maybe I'm disabled as well. Are you happy now?

Maybe I should start using that as an argument for why you can't disagree with me.

Seriously mate: my greatest condolences if that is the case, but if you're not suffering from cancer or something that's actually definitely gonna kill you - please don't tell people you have "7 to 12 years to live". You're not being fair to people's natural empathy for someone in that condition, if that is not the case. Depression is horrible but luckily one of the most researched mental conditions and among those were one can get the best help. People from all over the political spectrum are certainly affected by political decisions in a way that affects their feelings and state of mind negatively. I have never been so angry nor felt such despair myself since the mass immigration crisis here in Sweden. I have had horrible thoughts I wouldn't want to share with anybody. Yet... I survive. Having a condition like mine is btw. not fun to say the least when trying to deal with the bureaucratic nightmare of the welfare state and the best way to not have to deal with that is to get a job - even if it's tough for people like me to have a good night's sleep and get up in the morning on time. Nobody has ever "taken care" of me. They're all busy caring for fake refugees or (hopefully) disabled people who are a lot worse off (although I do know the later have suffered horribly from this as well ). Yet... I still survive and manage to go to work as well!

The beauty of living in a democracy is that we can all confront bad ideas and bad arguments and try to convince people that they are wrong, instead of banning people from expressing what their hearts are full of. Some of us might have had boyfriends who acted like "if you leave me I kill myself" while being the kind of person who would die than kill themselves, and might be a bit "resistant" (or maybe even a bit ticked off honestly) of ways of using emotional blackmail like that. With all due respect, but if you get serious mental issues by hearing that people like Trump, Brexit, etc. maybe you shouldn't be spending your time at a place where people do that...? Please don't hesitate to seek professional help if you're hurting yourself, not eating or really feeling suicidal as a result of other people having opinions that you strongly disagree with! You deserve the chance to enjoy this life as much as you can... for what do I know.. even if I believe in God, we both know that this certainly the only chance we know 100% we got to enjoy creation. Use it!

This shit is so sweet I think I'll check out myself for diabetes. Euch.

[Luminesa]

I'm soon gonna be 25. I also have ADHD so maybe I'm disabled as well. Are you happy now?

Maybe I should start using that as an argument for why you can't disagree with me.

Seriously mate: my greatest condolences if that is the case, but if you're not suffering from cancer or something that's actually definitely gonna kill you - please don't tell people you have "7 to 12 years to live". You're not being fair to people's natural empathy for someone in that condition, if that is not the case. Depression is horrible but luckily one of the most researched mental conditions and among those were one can get the best help. People from all over the political spectrum are certainly affected by political decisions in a way that affects their feelings and state of mind negatively. I have never been so angry nor felt such despair myself since the mass immigration crisis here in Sweden. I have had horrible thoughts I wouldn't want to share with anybody. Yet... I survive. Having a condition like mine is btw. not fun to say the least when trying to deal with the bureaucratic nightmare of the welfare state and the best way to not have to deal with that is to get a job - even if it's tough for people like me to have a good night's sleep and get up in the morning on time. Nobody has ever "taken care" of me. They're all busy caring for fake refugees or (hopefully) disabled people who are a lot worse off (although I do know the later have suffered horribly from this as well ). Yet... I still survive and manage to go to work as well!

The beauty of living in a democracy is that we can all confront bad ideas and bad arguments and try to convince people that they are wrong, instead of banning people from expressing what their hearts are full of. Some of us might have had boyfriends who acted like "if you leave me I kill myself" while being the kind of person who would die than kill themselves, and might be a bit "resistant" (or maybe even a bit ticked off honestly) of ways of using emotional blackmail like that. With all due respect, but if you get serious mental issues by hearing that people like Trump, Brexit, etc. maybe you shouldn't be spending your time at a place where people do that...? Please don't hesitate to seek professional help if you're hurting yourself, not eating or really feeling suicidal as a result of other people having opinions that you strongly disagree with! You deserve the chance to enjoy this life as much as you can... for what do I know.. even if I believe in God, we both know that this certainly the only chance we know 100% we got to enjoy creation. Use it!

Have you entirely missed the point????

Look back through this thread to where I was the only black guy in a town that elected the KKK/BNP as the government and reread that post. Then come back and mock someone who you think "hates the result of Brexit".

Jesus.

I...ah...I am terribly sorry you have to live in such a precarious situation. I cannot imagine how frightening that must be. Please stay safe.

[Werftkrieg]

Because I too, can share my hate for prolonged high pitched screaming that only serves to make my ears react like nails on chalkboard. #ForeverChildFree

Hating children is about the least forgiveable hate I can think of. Just saying.

You don't have to watch my neighbor's kids. I had never genuinely hated anyone before.

[AiliailiA]

Hating children is about the least forgiveable hate I can think of. Just saying.

You don't have to watch my neighbor's kids. I had never genuinely hated anyone before.

Do you have to watch your neighbor's kids?

Actually: does you neighbor know you watch their kids?