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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:29 pm

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Except it kinda wouldn't, people will always get high, someone will always sell them the stuff to get high

It would be more effective than this, quite easily. Incompetence is not tough to replace.

You so know that people get high off of glue. You want to ban glue?
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Postby Democratic Mongol Popular State » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:30 pm

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Democratic Mongol Popular State wrote:It would be more effective than this, quite easily. Incompetence is not tough to replace.

You so know that people get high off of glue. You want to ban glue?

My initial point was made toward videos of ISIS, blame the person who changed the subject. I don't have strong feelings on drug usage, just that it would be quite easy to reduce a country's intake of opioids and other drugs.
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 1:47 pm

Fantastic. Maybe we can start getting rid the Flat Earthers and the Neo Nazis next.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:09 pm

There should be no redirects, the end user probably know what they're doing. There should only be an age verification at best.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:10 pm

New Grestin wrote:Fantastic. Maybe we can start getting rid the Flat Earthers and the Neo Nazis next.


One can only hope
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Postby New Grestin » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:12 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
New Grestin wrote:Fantastic. Maybe we can start getting rid the Flat Earthers and the Neo Nazis next.


One can only hope

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Postby Adytus » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:16 pm

I think this is censorship, and people should have the responsibility to know what it right and wrong when they see it rather than being shielded from it entirely, allowing them to develop some false sense of what is going on, and how bad it can get. We should be on watch for this type of moral censorship. It is a slippery slope.
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Postby Tierra Prime » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:20 pm

While it serves a perfectly acceptable purpose in this case, a system like has huge potential for abuse.

How long until searches for senator/delegate/poobah [NAME] or the [NAME] party/league/ideology lead to propaganda from critics?

That's my main worry.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:22 pm

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The gays

Well, we all know how that's gonna end...

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Even gays like tits.

And the female gays even more!


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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:45 pm

Tierra Prime wrote:While it serves a perfectly acceptable purpose in this case, a system like has huge potential for abuse.

How long until searches for senator/delegate/poobah [NAME] or the [NAME] party/league/ideology lead to propaganda from critics?

That's my main worry.


Use somethign else then?
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Jul 22, 2017 2:49 pm

That's pretty stupid. Just keep their propaganda off of your website and let them fail to find the videos they are looking for. Nobody is looking for YouTube to babyproof the Internet.
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Postby Calladan » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:00 pm

Wallenburg wrote:That's pretty stupid. Just keep their propaganda off of your website and let them fail to find the videos they are looking for. Nobody is looking for YouTube to babyproof the Internet.


THIS! This is the argument I have been trying to think of since I wrote the original post.

Ban extremist videos, and if you don't want search times to find them, then make the search terms return nothing, rather than redirecting to more positive messages.

Because blanket redirection to "up with people" is kind of creepy and a tad too like censorship (even if it is in "a good cause") for my liking. I just couldn't think of a way to express is that didn't have me coming out in support of ISIS videos :)
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:28 pm

Wallenburg wrote:That's pretty stupid. Just keep their propaganda off of your website and let them fail to find the videos they are looking for.

Yes I'm sure users will appreciate waiting weeks for their video to be verified to be 100% fine, and paying hundreds of dollars monthly to employ all the employees to check every new upload.

Wallenburg wrote:Nobody is looking for YouTube to babyproof the Internet.

You obviously missed the hissyfit newspapers were having about how advertisers are funding extremism by websites like youtube.
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Postby Tierra Prime » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:29 pm

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Tierra Prime wrote:While it serves a perfectly acceptable purpose in this case, a system like has huge potential for abuse.

How long until searches for senator/delegate/poobah [NAME] or the [NAME] party/league/ideology lead to propaganda from critics?

That's my main worry.


Use somethign else then?

That's a less than ideal solution.

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:35 pm

Besides, YouTube will cave in and drop it the moment enough people and FOX start complaining that searches for Archer clips are being redirected.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:44 pm

Gauthier wrote:Besides, YouTube will cave in and drop it the moment enough people and FOX start complaining that searches for Archer clips are being redirected.

This is why we can't have nice things.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:58 pm

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Regardless of whether one is attracted to women, things that jiggle are just inherently appealing. Like an executive stress toy, except if you play with them in the office you'll get fired. Or possibly promoted.

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Postby Krasny-Volny » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:30 am

It's people's choice what they want to watch. And people watch videos of different content for millions of different reasons.

If I want to see an ISIS video or one posted by an Al-Qaeda affiliate because I'm a military scholar who likes looking at the types of weapons shown in the videos that are used by these groups, I don't want to be redirected to an irrelevant political video denouncing terrorism.

If I want to link to an ISIS video to show my friends how barbaric these people are, ditto.

Or maybe I just follow the war on Syria, and watch their videos to track the progress they're making (or lack thereof).

Lots of possibilities here. There are legitimate reasons to watch the stuff.

That being said, YouTube is a privately owned entity. They aren't under any legal obligation to host whatever people post.
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Postby Khalisako » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:31 am

soudns good to me. the only time i search for Deash videos is the time I want to see theirbrains explode out their head, so all power too them , relally.

westerns thik it slippery slope into totalistaicamsim ir whatever but i think it great! people need ot mbe educaed you kno,w.
tho it does saden, becuase if not radicalised these folks could've lived nice lvies away from the isalmic teroorits..
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:33 am

Khalisako wrote:soudns good to me. the only time i search for Deash videos is the time I want to see theirbrains explode out their head, so all power too them , relally.

westerns thik it slippery slope into totalistaicamsim ir whatever but i think it great! people need ot mbe educaed you kno,w.


...

Too easy.
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Postby Khalisako » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:37 am

Krasny-Volny wrote:
Khalisako wrote:soudns good to me. the only time i search for Deash videos is the time I want to see theirbrains explode out their head, so all power too them , relally.

westerns thik it slippery slope into totalistaicamsim ir whatever but i think it great! people need ot mbe educaed you kno,w.


...

Too easy.

i don't understand.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:07 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:That's pretty stupid. Just keep their propaganda off of your website and let them fail to find the videos they are looking for.

Yes I'm sure users will appreciate waiting weeks for their video to be verified to be 100% fine, and paying hundreds of dollars monthly to employ all the employees to check every new upload.

TIL YouTubers waited weeks for their videos to be verified, and paid hundreds of dollars monthly to YouTube before they implemented this policy.
Wallenburg wrote:Nobody is looking for YouTube to babyproof the Internet.

You obviously missed the hissyfit newspapers were having about how advertisers are funding extremism by websites like youtube.

Demonetized videos are a thing, especially with how much of a fit advertisers made over a single neo-Nazi video out of millions upon millions of videos scraping by and getting monetized.
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:32 am

Khalisako wrote:soudns good to me. the only time i search for Deash videos is the time I want to see theirbrains explode out their head, so all power too them , relally.

westerns thik it slippery slope into totalistaicamsim ir whatever but i think it great! people need ot mbe educaed you kno,w.
tho it does saden, becuase if not radicalised these folks could've lived nice lvies away from the isalmic teroorits..

Have you ever thought about using spell check?

Anyway, I just feel uneasy is all, but then again YouTube is a private entity and should be allowed to monitor it'elf how ever it wants to.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:04 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Khalisako wrote:soudns good to me. the only time i search for Deash videos is the time I want to see theirbrains explode out their head, so all power too them , relally.

westerns thik it slippery slope into totalistaicamsim ir whatever but i think it great! people need ot mbe educaed you kno,w.
tho it does saden, becuase if not radicalised these folks could've lived nice lvies away from the isalmic teroorits..

Have you ever thought about using spell check?

Anyway, I just feel uneasy is all, but then again YouTube is a private entity and should be allowed to monitor it'elf how ever it wants to.

They tend to drunk post a lot
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