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Postby The Feylands » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:17 pm

Vassenor wrote:Or we could just accept that the quantity of melanin in a person's dermal layer is entirely unconnected to their ability to be a complete twat to other humans.
I don't care about that, in fact I think 'racial purity' is simply B. S. excuse the French. ;) I think it's got more to do with one's culture.

I'm a Swede. Sweden belongs to the so called "Vodka belt" where people drink a lot of spirits, especially in the weekends. They even board ferries to international waters to get drunk at low cost outside the authority of our public monopoly on alcohol. The same people tend to have STD:s when they come home. :roll: This is a generally immoral behaviour that is typical for some Swedes. I never done that and I hate spirits and anything above 12% in general. So... I do not feel responsible for any of the above, despite belonging to the same ethnic group that have these practices. :(

Parts of urban African-American culture is obviously morally bankrupt and a bad source of inspiration for people who want to do bad and savage stuff all across the world. I'm talking about culture and not 'race' so that may include Eminiem or whatever. People who've immigrated from places like Eritrea come here and look up to people like 50 Cent because... well, heritage seems to matter no matter if we don't want to acknowledge it.

It's not every black person's fault if people do horrible stuff because a certain subculture that has with black people to do is morally bankrupt, but I think that the great American nation which is a hope and an inspiration to people in the rest of the world in so many good ways, really needs to tackle this kind of savagery and instil some kind of basic decency in people like this. And people feeling that others owe them something because of things that happened a long time ago is not the way to tackle that. :)

The Geeses Commonwealth of Goosedom wrote:No, that assertion, that American culture is terrible because of a single event, is lazy and indefensible. American culture is hard to define, as it is excessively heterogeneous.
That's unfortunately a lot of Europeans for you - having a lot of prejudices, blaming you for things in the heterogeneous 'hodgepodge' you're not exactly a part of. Blaming morally bankrupt subcultures on capitalism instead of the messages broadcast all over the world by people like 50 Cent. Because it's not like people have a personal responsibility when they do stuff like this... :(

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Postby Liberalter » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:21 pm

This is why corporate education doesn't work. Capitalism teaches people to be greedy. My solution is that the government provides mandatory daycare, school, and college through taxpayer money. Through government education programs people can become more empathetic.
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Postby Sovaal » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:22 pm

Liberalter wrote:This is why corporate education doesn't work. Capitalism teaches people to be greedy. My solution is that the government provides mandatory daycare, school, and college through taxpayer money. Through government education programs people can become more empathetic.

Have already been though mandatory schooling, don't feel any more empathetic.
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Postby MERIZoC » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:23 pm

The Feylands wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Every creature is better alive than dead, men and moose and pine trees, and he who understands it aright will rather preserve its life than destroy it. -Henry David Thoreau


PS. Any 'Animal Liberationist' who engages in anthropocentric 'human equality' dogma or on top of that believes in 'separation of church and state', abortions and 'socialism' (!!!!) seems to have no understanding of the Dharma or his nature-given role as a man of his tribe and a protector of well... me for example... :( Such a person should google Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya for further guidance. :)

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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:26 pm

This just goes to show what a failure this culture has become in terms of passing on a sense of morality.
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Postby Polar Svalbard » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:26 pm

I take this quote from Camp Camp

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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:29 pm

Kermis wrote:Terrible american culture. Don't you people care about the elderly?
In america its all about the money. You people are the worst with government. If you lose your job in america you end up in a cardboardbox.

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Postby Catochristoferson » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:30 pm

This is what capitalism and government schooling do to people. It disconnects humans from their humanity, and crushes their spirit.

Although this situation saddens me, I am not surprised that they didn't help the man. Plus, the situation shows that legal/illegal are not good indicators of right/wrong.
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Postby Lord of The Rings » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:32 pm

Just disgusting. They should be thrown from a ship halfway between Europe and the US.

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Postby Katganistan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:39 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Not sure spraying him with a fire hose would have helped....


Are fire services in the U.S. not trained to rescue people from this sort of situation then?

They are.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:41 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Not sure spraying him with a fire hose would have helped....


Are fire services in the U.S. not trained to rescue people from this sort of situation then?

Nah, just cat rescue and calendar modelling. /s
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Orostan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:42 pm

What the fuck is this shit. Those teens deserve a punishment.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:42 pm

Catochristoferson wrote:This is what capitalism and government schooling do to people. It disconnects humans from their humanity, and crushes their spirit.

Although this situation saddens me, I am not surprised that they didn't help the man. Plus, the situation shows that legal/illegal are not good indicators of right/wrong.

Capitalism and government schooling has nothing to do with this. It's most likely their parents fault and the fact that some people are assholes
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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:43 pm

Swith Witherward wrote:On the other hand, they did this while stoned. They've handed fodder to the anti-pot proponents. "Legalizing it only increases the risk that stoned members of society won't perform any civic duties when crisis hits" etc.

Either you base your beliefs on evidence or you don't. A clearly unrepresentative sample of potheads does not to any reasonable person constitute strong evidence.

EDIT: On a sidenote, how the hell is there not a duty to call for help?
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Postby Catochristoferson » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:47 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Catochristoferson wrote:This is what capitalism and government schooling do to people. It disconnects humans from their humanity, and crushes their spirit.

Although this situation saddens me, I am not surprised that they didn't help the man. Plus, the situation shows that legal/illegal are not good indicators of right/wrong.

Capitalism and government schooling has nothing to do with this. It's most likely their parents fault and the fact that some people are assholes

How is it not? Don't you realize the influence these institutions have, especially on children?
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Postby Orostan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:49 pm

The Geeses Commonwealth of Goosedom wrote:
Kermis wrote:Terrible american culture. Don't you people care about the elderly?
In america its all about the money. You people are the worst with government. If you lose your job in america you end up in a cardboardbox.

No, that assertion, that American culture is terrible because of a single event, is lazy and indefensible. American culture is hard to define, as it is excessively heterogeneous.

1. If you dislike America, find better reasons please.
2. Obviously people in America care about the elderly, the elderly live ther too. There are also nursing homes and such made possible by charities, like Christian City.
3.If it is all about money in America, why do the selfless and God-fearing still live there? Why do I not have a job? (I am American, if you could not tell). Why was my father more concerned with me than money?
4. America is not remotely near the worst at governing. North Korea, Somalia, The PRC, Russia, Belgium, DRC, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, etc. Pick a better country.
5. Incorrect. I had a good friend, whose parents both lost their jobs. He still lives in a house, not a box.

In short, do not be so presumptuous please. Have a good day.

>charities
How about we eliminate the need for charities with Socialism?

3 - Probably because your father did his job as a parent.

4 - America may not be the worst, but its still quite sh*t at governing for the people.

5 - Good. Nobody should be tossed aside because their labor and existence cannot be profited off of.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:50 pm

Catochristoferson wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Capitalism and government schooling has nothing to do with this. It's most likely their parents fault and the fact that some people are assholes

How is it not? Don't you realize the influence these institutions have, especially on children?

If it was capitalism and government schooling this would happen more often, it doesn't. Therefore it must be something else. Like their fucking parents. Do you not realize the influence parents have on children?
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Postby Orostan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:50 pm

Catochristoferson wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Capitalism and government schooling has nothing to do with this. It's most likely their parents fault and the fact that some people are assholes

How is it not? Don't you realize the influence these institutions have, especially on children?

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On more serious note, good point. These kids were probably taught through indirect means by their parents that those that cannot be profited off of (the disabled), and those less wealthy than them mattered less.

I understand your point, but I disagree slightly.
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Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Catochristoferson wrote:How is it not? Don't you realize the influence these institutions have, especially on children?

If it was capitalism and government schooling this would happen more often, it doesn't. Therefore it must be something else. Like their fucking parents. Do you not realize the influence parents have on children?

I was raised by my pet rock, hence my pro-stoning stance./s
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Katganistan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:52 pm

Liberalter wrote:This is why corporate education doesn't work. Capitalism teaches people to be greedy. My solution is that the government provides mandatory daycare, school, and college through taxpayer money. Through government education programs people can become more empathetic.

Um, where do you live? Because where I live, daycare and schooling up until the university level ARE paid for with taxpayer money.

In b4 someone starts going on about how taxation is theft.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:53 pm

Salus Maior wrote:This just goes to show what a failure this culture has become in terms of passing on a sense of morality.

As opposed to previous generations, who saw fit to sterilise the disabled.


Lord of The Rings wrote:Just disgusting. They should be thrown from a ship halfway between Europe and the US.

An absurd expense if the goal is to kill them.


Orostan wrote:What the fuck is this shit. Those teens deserve a punishment.

Alas, the law provides none. They have no duty to put their lives at risk, nor even to summon help.


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Swith Witherward wrote:On the other hand, they did this while stoned. They've handed fodder to the anti-pot proponents. "Legalizing it only increases the risk that stoned members of society won't perform any civic duties when crisis hits" etc.

Either you base your beliefs on evidence or you don't. A clearly unrepresentative sample of potheads does not to any reasonable person constitute strong evidence.

EDIT: On a sidenote, how the hell is there not a duty to call for help?

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Postby Orostan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:56 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Orostan wrote:What the fuck is this shit. Those teens deserve a punishment.

Alas, the law provides none. They have no duty to put their lives at risk, nor even to summon help.

Which is why we need to end 'looking down' on the disabled. It's just not right.
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Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:56 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:This just goes to show what a failure this culture has become in terms of passing on a sense of morality.

As opposed to previous generations, who saw fit to sterilise the disabled.


Lord of The Rings wrote:Just disgusting. They should be thrown from a ship halfway between Europe and the US.

An absurd expense if the goal is to kill them.


Orostan wrote:What the fuck is this shit. Those teens deserve a punishment.

Alas, the law provides none. They have no duty to put their lives at risk, nor even to summon help.


LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Either you base your beliefs on evidence or you don't. A clearly unrepresentative sample of potheads does not to any reasonable person constitute strong evidence.

EDIT: On a sidenote, how the hell is there not a duty to call for help?

Evil big government can't make me call no police?

Something something eugenics diddun do no wrong something something
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Orostan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:56 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Liberalter wrote:This is why corporate education doesn't work. Capitalism teaches people to be greedy. My solution is that the government provides mandatory daycare, school, and college through taxpayer money. Through government education programs people can become more empathetic.

Um, where do you live? Because where I live, daycare and schooling up until the university level ARE paid for with taxpayer money.

In b4 someone starts going on about how taxation is theft.

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Ernest Hemingway wrote:Anyone who loves freedom owes such a debt to the Red Army that it can never be repaid.

Napoleon Bonaparte wrote:“To understand the man you have to know what was happening in the world when he was twenty.”

Cicero wrote:"In times of war, the laws fall silent"



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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:57 pm

Orostan wrote:
Katganistan wrote:Um, where do you live? Because where I live, daycare and schooling up until the university level ARE paid for with taxpayer money.

In b4 someone starts going on about how taxation is theft.

A M E R I C A

Land of the free (to be slaves for your corporate overlords)

Oh get off it
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