Teens stand by and laugh at drowning disabled man

[Cylonarus]

I would say have the teens shot, but would that be considered advocating for death? Probably, I don't want to get banhammer'd.

[Orostan]

A M E R I C A

Land of the free (to be slaves for your corporate overlords)

Oh get off it

I'll stop when we establish Socialism.

[Thermodolia]

Oh get off it

I'll stop when we establish Socialism.

Over my dead body

[Orostan]

I'll stop when we establish Socialism.

Over my dead body

Alright.

[Grand Britannia]

ITT: Kneejerk reactions about a bunch of potheads being potheads.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

A disgusting display of lack of basic human kindness.

[Sovaal]

A disgusting display of lack of basic human kindness.

Is kindness really so "basic"?

[The Christonian Imperium]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/apos-oh-just-died-apos-042015634.html

A group of teens, who filmed and mocked a disabled man as he slowly drowned in a pond, would not be criminally charged as no laws were broken in recording the video, Florida Police said Thursday.

Jamel Dunn, 32, drowned in a retention pond July 9 as the teens recorded his ordeal and did not bother to help him, or call for help in Cocoa, Florida. Dunn’s body was not discovered until three days, according to Florida Today, a part of the USA Today network.

The video that police called "disturbing" surfaced online after his body was discovered, and showed him in his final moments.

"He started to struggle and scream for help and they just laughed. They didn’t call the police. They just laughed the whole time. He was just screaming ... for someone to help him," Yvonne Martinez, spokesman for the Cocoa Police Department said.

"The kids were at the park that day smoking marijuana and apparently saw him walk into the water. He walked in on his own. They were watching him," he added.

Dunn walked into the water from the west side and then struggled as he drowned as the teens watched and recorded the incident from the south side of the pond, according to the police. "They just started recording what happened and watched until he died," Martinez said. "Everybody is just horrified by this."

"Get out the water, you gonna die," one of the teens was heard yelling in the video.

"Ain’t nobody fixing to help you, you dumb," another one was heard shouting. Police said the teens warned Dunn, who walks with a cane, not to go into the muddy waters. However, no one bothered to call 911 or help when he struggled to keep his head above water.

In the video, when the man is seen trying to stay afloat, the teens continued to joke and mock him. "Oh, he just died," a teen said and the group broke into laughter.

Police were informed about the video after a family friend of Dunn saw the disturbing footage on social media. Authorities said they interviewed the teens but did not charge them as they broke no law, even though their actions had "no moral justification."

"While the incident depicted on the recording does not give rise to sufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution under Florida statutes, we can find no moral justification for either the behavior of persons heard on the recording or the deliberate decision not to render aid to Mr. Dunn," the Brevard-Seminole State Attorney’s Office said in a statement, Nbc4i.com reported.

A GoFundMe page was created by Dunn’s friends on the crowfunding website in order to raise money for his funeral.

This is obviously a very shocking and upsetting incident, and it can raise a lot of potential questions. How do we wind up with people who would do such a thing - is it just a result of callous individuals, or does this say something about the way we raise teens in the current culture of disassociation and the lust for attention from the internet? How should these individuals be charged, if charged at all - as adults, for murder, for manslaughter?

While I don't believe that the average person would do what these kids did, I think it might be warranted to suggest that obsession with social media assists in people who already have these sorts of inclinations. They should also be sent to prison, but given reformation treatment for eventual release due to their young age.

If I knew where those kids were and assault was legal I would beat them close to death with my bare hands for what they have done

[Fartsniffage]

I'll stop when we establish Socialism.

Over my dead body

You would fight to the death to avoid single-payer health care?

[Ifreann]

Alas, the law provides none. They have no duty to put their lives at risk, nor even to summon help.

Which is why we need to end 'looking down' on the disabled. It's just not right.

That it's not, but there would be no duty to help a drowning person who wasn't disabled.

[Liberated Territories]

Over my dead body

You would fight to the death to avoid single-payer health care?

Very much so

[Orostan]

Over my dead body

You would fight to the death to avoid *single-payer health care?

*worker control of the means of production

Which is why we need to end 'looking down' on the disabled. It's just not right.

That it's not, but there would be no duty to help a drowning person who wasn't disabled.

How about just not being a dick?

[Katganistan]

Um, where do you live? Because where I live, daycare and schooling up until the university level ARE paid for with taxpayer money.

In b4 someone starts going on about how taxation is theft.

A M E R I C A

Land of the free (to be slaves for your corporate overlords)

What in logic's name does that comment have to do with either of the things you quoted?

[The Christonian Imperium]

You would fight to the death to avoid *single-payer health care?

*worker control of the means of production

That it's not, but there would be no duty to help a drowning person who wasn't disabled.

How about just not being a dick?

Socialism is just communism but dialed down half a notch( ahem Venezuela )
I agree that those bastards need to be punished

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

A disgusting display of lack of basic human kindness.

Is kindness really so "basic"?

I'd hope so.

[Sovaal]

Is kindness really so "basic"?

I'd hope so.

Eh, I don't know. I think it's a bit more like how "common" sense is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility

[Thermodolia]

Over my dead body

You would fight to the death to avoid single-payer health care?

No just socialism. Besides multi-payer is better. The top three nations with the fast care are all multi-payer

[Katganistan]

*worker control of the means of production


How about just not being a dick?

Socialism is just communism but dialed down half a notch( ahem Venezuela )
I agree that those bastards need to be punished

Venezuela?

Sorry, though I'm having a hard time with the whole Charlie Gard thing, but the UK has universal heathcare and when my friends lived there for four years going to school, they were cared for for things that cost them an absolute fortune when they returned here to the US.

Better that by far than the "let Obamacare fail and throw 30 million people to the wolves" attitude we see in our government now.

[Orostan]

A M E R I C A

Land of the free (to be slaves for your corporate overlords)

What in logic's name does that comment have to do with either of the things you quoted?

You have to pay for college in the US. And also a ton of pre schools. It's to we can give tax cuts to the rich

*worker control of the means of production


How about just not being a dick?

Socialism is just communism but dialed down half a notch( ahem Venezuela )
I agree that those bastards need to be punished

>muh Venezuela

Read Marx. And the Venezuelan crisis has nothing to do with their mode of production, which isn't even fully socialist.

You would fight to the death to avoid single-payer health care?

Very much so

>lol I don't need affordable medical care

Try paying a half million dollars for cancer removal.

[Fartsniffage]

You would fight to the death to avoid single-payer health care?

No just socialism. Besides multi-payer is better. The top three nations with the fast care are all multi-payer

I'm curious about your definition of socialism?

[Izirag]

I have lived in Florida most of my life, this is typical shit. Some of you people are ridiculous for saying to legally punish people for not intervening, he did something definitively insane and it is not the world's responsibility to preserve the foolish. BTW, MOST BODIES OF WATER IN FLORIDA ARE DANGEROUS.

[Arkeyana]

I say UNLEASH THE HOUNDS OF HECK ON THEM (wow, I'm an aetheist and I said that, but honestly, those people are the types that should just go somewhere else and think about their life choices )

[Katganistan]

What in logic's name does that comment have to do with either of the things you quoted?

You have to pay for college in the US. And also a ton of pre schools. It's to we can give tax cuts to the rich

Move to a better place. Universal pre-k is offered free to all families in NYC.

[Major-Tom]

Florida is a miserable excuse of a state, for one. The people living there are utter fuck twats, including them.

A lot of teens - they're not nice people, a lot of people, they're not nice people. These absolute fucks included. These kids should go to hell, fuck them, fucking pricks, honest to god. You laugh at someone who's drowning? Fuck you, you absolute fuck.

[Fartsniffage]

Socialism is just communism but dialed down half a notch( ahem Venezuela )
I agree that those bastards need to be punished

Venezuela?

Sorry, though I'm having a hard time with the whole Charlie Gard thing, but the UK has universal heathcare and when my friends lived there for four years going to school, they were cared for for things that cost them an absolute fortune when they returned here to the US.

Better that by far than the "let Obamacare fail and throw 30 million people to the wolves" attitude we see in our government now.

With the Charlie Gard thing it helps to remember that the hospital involved is one of the foremost research hospitals on the planet. And that they invited the US doctor over in January. He wasn't too keen because they wouldn't pay him, they were just interested in the research. He's there now, but that was after the family raised £1.3 million.....