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Do you want the bill to pass?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:24 am

Yes, I do!
114
42%
Kind of...
29
11%
Neutral
19
7%
No, not really
18
7%
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
91
34%
 
Total votes : 271

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Postby American Capitalist » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:55 pm

Also notice there is no violence right now? Guess they aren't as violent and nuts as some think?
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:55 pm

Yenke-Bin wrote:
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For inciting violence. Don't know weather that's a banable offense, but I'll leave it up to the mods to decide.

If my political beliefs that removal of government and replacement with anarchy offend i suggest you stay off the internet.
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Postby Yenke-Bin » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:55 pm

"Defend Children"....unless they are born and live without health care, right? Typical republican wanking.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:55 pm

American Capitalist wrote:
SaintB wrote:
The Candy Lane wrote:219... so it passed?

Yes, and sadly not a single republican could be nonpartisan.

No it's because most are principled and don't believe in it. The Bi-Partisan vote was against it and the partisan vote was for it.


Shhh..... Truths that make the Republicans look good are frowned on around here.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:56 pm

Rolling squid wrote:
American Capitalist wrote:
SaintB wrote:
The Candy Lane wrote:219... so it passed?

Yes, and sadly not a single republican could be nonpartisan.

No it's because most are principled and don't believe in it. The Bi-Partisan vote was against it and the partisan vote was for it.


Despite the fact that the bill had numerous ideas proposed by republicans in it. All it shows is that the republicans never were going to vote for the bill, regardless of content.

No, they weren't, not until they pass the same thing years from now, and get credit for it. That's all it ever was, about making Obama fail.
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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:56 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
American Capitalist wrote:
SaintB wrote:
The Candy Lane wrote:219... so it passed?

Yes, and sadly not a single republican could be nonpartisan.

No it's because most are principled and don't believe in it. The Bi-Partisan vote was against it and the partisan vote was for it.


Shhh..... Truths that make the Republicans look good are frowned on around here.


Party whips have nothing to do with it, of course.

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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:56 pm

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Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Hahklallah » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:57 pm

:rofl: :rofl:
Healthcare passed, all the Doctors better migrate to Mexico
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:57 pm

In the name of- They better not debate before every vote! >:(
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:58 pm

too bad the senate parlimentarian ruled that the abortion wording CANT be added in the reconcilliation bill.
whatever

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Postby Our L Lawliet » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:58 pm

They're not going to have debates every time, are they?

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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm

Our L Lawliet wrote:They're not going to have debates every time, are they?

I fear they just might.
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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There goes the last free nation on earth!

Postby Saiwania » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm

Freedom of the individual has died in America. Now everyone will be required to purchase a product. We will now all be slaves to the government unless the states manage to get the Supreme Court to repeal this travesty.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm

Yenke-Bin wrote:"Defend Children"....unless they are born and live without health care, right? Typical republican wanking.

ANd they've found a new way to yell, "You lie!" at Obama without actually using the words. Lovely.
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Postby American Capitalist » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
American Capitalist wrote:
SaintB wrote:
The Candy Lane wrote:219... so it passed?

Yes, and sadly not a single republican could be nonpartisan.

No it's because most are principled and don't believe in it. The Bi-Partisan vote was against it and the partisan vote was for it.


Despite the fact that the bill had numerous ideas proposed by republicans in it. All it shows is that the republicans never were going to vote for the bill, regardless of content.

No, they weren't, not until they pass the same thing years from now, and get credit for it. That's all it ever was, about making Obama fail.

I would say the majority of the Minority didn't believe in it and like I said it's not the worse bill to ever be passed it's just not that good either and I wouldn't vote for it.
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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm

Welp, this has been fun *Not really* but I am going to bed now, nite!

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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm

Our L Lawliet wrote:They're not going to have debates every time, are they?


It's almost as if politicians like arguing.

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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm

Our L Lawliet wrote:They're not going to have debates every time, are they?


I don't think so. They're not doing the whole "yielding the balance of the time"

Nevermind, they are.
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Postby Jordaxia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:59 pm

So... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Pr ... e_Care_Act is that the bill that just passed? It seems to indicate so. It also says "Impose a penalty on individuals who do not buy health insurance" is part of its provisions. Can somebody clear that up for me? That doesn't sound progressive, it sounds like the sort of thing someone with an irrational hatred of the poor would do.
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Postby Yenke-Bin » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:00 pm

sounds like stupak found his balls, finally.
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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:01 pm

Yenke-Bin wrote:sounds like stupak found his balls, finally.


Were they glued to his leg?

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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:01 pm

Saiwania wrote:Freedom of the individual has died in America. Now everyone will be required to purchase a product. We will now all be slaves to the government unless the states manage to get the Supreme Court to repeal this travesty.


Freedom of the individual died a long time ago.
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Postby Topid » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:01 pm

Hmm, we are now set up for an interesting four years. I wonder if it will be repealed.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:01 pm

Cool, Stupak is calling the GOP anti-choicers on their bullshit.
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Postby Caninope » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:01 pm

Jordaxia wrote:So... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Pr ... e_Care_Act is that the bill that just passed? It seems to indicate so. It also says "Impose a penalty on individuals who do not buy health insurance" is part of its provisions. Can somebody clear that up for me? That doesn't sound progressive, it sounds like the sort of thing someone with an irrational hatred of the poor would do.


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