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Do you want the bill to pass?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:24 am

Yes, I do!
114
42%
Kind of...
29
11%
Neutral
19
7%
No, not really
18
7%
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
91
34%
 
Total votes : 271

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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:51 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:The Tea Baggers will now riot.

DC police are all over them. Won't happen.

Would it be classless to say 'even better'?

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Postby SaintB » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:51 pm

The Candy Lane wrote:219... so it passed?

Yes, and sadly not a single republican could be nonpartisan.
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Postby Trippoli » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:52 pm

Wish someone should show what is going on outside rofl
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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:52 pm

Post-Unity Terra wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:The Tea Baggers will now riot.

DC police are all over them. Won't happen.

Would it be classless to say 'even better'?


No. It would be classless to say I hope they try, and get the shit kicked out of them.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:52 pm

The Candy Lane wrote:219... so it passed?

yup

nancy pelosi has done the impossible. health care reform is passed.
whatever

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Postby The Candy Lane » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:52 pm

congrats americans, u no longer have to die in alleys. lol
so wats this motion thingy? im canadian dk this yank stuff lol
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:52 pm

Hahklallah wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:
Hahklallah wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Hahklallah wrote:You Yanks might as well burn your Constitution


Because it just passed?


Aye, The damage has been done against your Country, say hello to Martial Law, Rioting, and possibly Civil War...sorry mates....

Sorry, mein Freund, not going to happen. A few hot-heads may get themselves arrested but no, we're not going to come apart like that.


What about all your American Grannies on that uhhh....Medicare thingy.....they'll all die off, I think thats what your Presdiant wants

Why would he want that?
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Postby Yenke-Bin » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:52 pm

greed and death wrote:
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For inciting violence. Don't know weather that's a banable offense, but I'll leave it up to the mods to decide.

If my political beliefs that removal of government and replacement with anarchy offend i suggest you stay off the internet.
I do prefer it be done without violence but if violence happens I will of course use ti to further my agenda.



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Lydeana
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Postby Lydeana » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:52 pm

well........fuck

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Postby Hahklallah » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:52 pm

The United States? Nah, it's The Peoples Republic of China

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The Romulan Republic
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:53 pm

greed and death wrote:If my political beliefs that removal of government and replacement with anarchy offend i suggest you stay off the internet.


It has nothing to do with being offended. There are a great many things that offend me which I would never go to a moderator about. Inciting violence is another matter. In any case, I'll leave it up to the mods. Whatever their decision, I'll gladly abide by.

I do prefer it be done without violence but if violence happens I will of course use ti to further my agenda.


Like I said, no moral compass.

Besides, it didn't sound like you'd prefer non-violence. It sounded like you were cheering on violence, saying it would be a good thing, and hoping it happened.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:53 pm

Who is this clown? Wasn't Boehner enough?
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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:53 pm

The Candy Lane wrote:congrats americans, u no longer have to die in alleys. lol
so wats this motion thingy? im canadian dk this yank stuff lol


Unfortunately, the bill isn't perfect.

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Postby Denecaep » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:53 pm

Yes, yes, yes! Now for the reconciliation bill, to compromise with the Senate... its not over, yet, guys... :unsure:
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Postby American Capitalist » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:53 pm

SaintB wrote:
The Candy Lane wrote:219... so it passed?

Yes, and sadly not a single republican could be nonpartisan.

No it's because most are principled and don't believe in it. The Bi-Partisan vote was against it and the partisan vote was for it.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:53 pm

Takaram wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Image
Congratulations, Bill, you're a law...(well, another step or two to go...)


It's still just a bill.

Yeah, I know, another verse to go, but more or less gonna happen...and I didn't want to wail.


OOoooh, unrest.
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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:54 pm

Just look at the Republicans.

Delicious sour grapes.

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Postby Hahklallah » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:54 pm

The Candy Lane wrote:congrats americans, u no longer have to die in alleys. lol
so wats this motion thingy? im canadian dk this yank stuff lol


I know how you feel, well I dont know how it feels to be stuck North of the biggest group of idiots in the whole fucking world

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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:54 pm

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Postby DrunkenDove » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:54 pm

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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:54 pm

American Capitalist wrote:
SaintB wrote:
The Candy Lane wrote:219... so it passed?

Yes, and sadly not a single republican could be nonpartisan.

No it's because most are principled and don't believe in it. The Bi-Partisan vote was against it and the partisan vote was for it.


Despite the fact that the bill had numerous ideas proposed by republicans in it. All it shows is that the republicans never were going to vote for the bill, regardless of content.
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Postby Avenio » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:54 pm

Takaram wrote:
The Candy Lane wrote:congrats americans, u no longer have to die in alleys. lol
so wats this motion thingy? im canadian dk this yank stuff lol


Unfortunately, the bill isn't perfect.


It's better than nothing I suppose, and can lead to better, more comprehensive reform down the road.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:54 pm

Post-Unity Terra wrote:Just look at the Republicans.

Delicious sour grapes.

And now we have to listen some anti-choice demagogue ... yeesh.
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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:55 pm

Of course he's ranting on abortion. Don't it figure?
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Postby Lydeana » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:55 pm

The Candy Lane wrote:congrats americans, u no longer have to die in alleys. lol
so wats this motion thingy? im canadian dk this yank stuff lol

Yeah now we get to die in hospitals waiting for water that isn't there! So much better!

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