Son of The Bride of the MEGA Health Care Thread (Of DOOM!)

[Unidox]

No one is objecting to the amount we spend on defence; at least on here. Why all the hubbub over healthcare? How complacent does your conscience have to be to allow for war, but cry bloody murder when offered to help heal?

I think just about everyone on nsg objects to that.
Id love to see a 50% reduction in defense spending over 10 years.

I would too. Just wanted to point out how paranoia and the sense of hypocrisy never seem to meet.

[Barringtonia]

"Tonight, at a time when the pundits said it was no longer possible, we rose above the weight of our politics," Obama said during a late-night appearance at the White House.

"This legislation will not fix everything that ails our healthcare system, but it moves us decisively in the right direction. This is what change looks like..."

The '...bitches' was implied,

[Milks Empire]

I'm a bit upset that you'll be fined if you don't take their insurance.
But what pisses me off is that people are forced thru the HMO's who have been screwing people for years. How the hell can you just force a nation to have insurance through the same people that are not only responsible for denying health coverage to people in dire need of it, but also give tax credits to said HMOs who are pretty much the root problem of this whole healthcare issue?

THIS is why I was 100% opposed to the bill.

[New Chalcedon]

Isn't Obama on his tour in Asia?

They were unable to get the votes without amending the bill so it must go through the senate again.
And it is likely going to be subject to a filibuster again.

They're using reconciliation: non-filibusterable vote, usable only on matters that (reasonably) directly affect the budget.

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

Isn't Obama on his tour in Asia?

They were unable to get the votes without amending the bill so it must go through the senate again.
And it is likely going to be subject to a filibuster again.

They're using reconciliation: non-filibusterable vote, usable only on matters that (reasonably) directly affect the budget.

This tactic WILL backfire- most reasonable democrats would at least block it for futher amendments.

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

The healthcare reform bill is facing opposition from ALL Republicans and some moderate Democrats. Do you think it will pass Congress? Do you support it yourself?

[Karsol]

I thought it had passed...

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

I thought it had passed...

What? I meant the final stage- approval from all.

[Chumblywumbly]

I thought it had passed...

House, not Senate, AFAIK.

I seem to be talking balls.

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

Wow, the next thing to do is repeal it!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/22/us-healthcare-bill-passes-congress

Horrible Fascist.

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

I'm waiting for SCOTUS and the President to repeal it(Not gonna happen).

[Karsol]

I'm 50/50 anyway.

[Karsol]

Wow, the next thing to do is repeal it!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/22/us-healthcare-bill-passes-congress

Horrible Fascist.

How is he a fascist?
It is a democratic process.

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/22/us-healthcare-bill-passes-congress
Just last night, President Barry pushed the Healthcare Reform Bill through the House of Representatives. What are your views on this act? Do you feel that this decision was too reckless? Do you think that this will work out fine, after all?

[Sith Korriban]

Wow, the next thing to do is repeal it!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/22/us-healthcare-bill-passes-congress

Horrible Fascist.

How is he a fascist?
It is a democratic process.

Silly Karsol, don't you know that fascist means whatever people like this want it to mean?
I mean, it's not as though words have definite meanings of their own or anything...

[The Horror Channel]

I guess the Xtians are pissed that they might actually have to start caring about their fellow man's health, and not just his "soul"(wallet).

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

Wow, the next thing to do is repeal it!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/22/us-healthcare-bill-passes-congress

Horrible Fascist.

How is he a fascist?
It is a democratic process.

Haha, just making fun of my fellow conservatives, also called tea party patriots: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2baxw_YScxc&feature=related

[The Horror Channel]

You mean President Obama.

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

I guess the Xtians are pissed that they might actually have to start caring about their fellow man's health, and not just his "soul"(wallet).

Xian. No fan of compulsory love.

[South Norwega]

I wonder how many Americans won't buy Healthcare to spite the evil government now?

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

You mean President Obama.

Same thing:p

[Whole Conviction]

Ten immediate benefits of Health Care Reform:

1. Adult children may remain as dependents on their parents’ policy until their 27th birthday
2. Children under age 19 may not be excluded for pre-existing conditions
3. No more lifetime or annual caps on coverage
4. Free preventative care for all
5. Adults with pre-existing conditions may buy into a national high-risk pool until the exchanges come online. While these will not be cheap, they’re still better than total exclusion and get some benefit from a wider pool of insureds.
6. Small businesses will be entitled to a tax credit for 2009 and 2010, which could be as much as 50% of what they pay for employees’ health insurance.
7. The “donut hole” closes for Medicare patients, making prescription medications more affordable for seniors.
8. Requirement that all insurers must post their balance sheets on the Internet and fully disclose administrative costs, executive compensation packages, and benefit payments.
9. Authorizes early funding of community health centers in all 50 states (Bernie Sanders’ amendment). Community health centers provide primary, dental and vision services to people in the community, based on a sliding scale for payment according to ability to pay.
10. AND no more rescissions. Effective immediately, you can't lose your insurance because you get sick.

(source)

Not exactly sure what's 'reckless' about pushing through reform that he campaigned on.

[The Horror Channel]

I assumed that Xtians loved everybody, or so they say.

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

I assumed that Xtians loved everybody, or so they say.

I wonder how the mean old man would like you to force love on him.

[Eternal Yerushalayim]

I wonder how many Americans won't buy Healthcare to spite the evil government now?

It's mandatory?Or is it not?