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Do you want the bill to pass?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:24 am

Yes, I do!
114
42%
Kind of...
29
11%
Neutral
19
7%
No, not really
18
7%
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
91
34%
 
Total votes : 271
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Ashmoria
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:32 pm

Farnhamia wrote:CNN says someone yelled "Baby killer!" at Stupak. I missed that.


i hate it when they do that shit. STUPAK as baby killer! pahleeeze.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:32 pm

DrunkenDove wrote:Three for three. Finally an end to NSG healthcare debates, which was of course the real accomplishment tonight. :p

Wow, I hadn't realized that! Free at last, free at last, thank Whatever Almighty, I'm free at last!
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:32 pm

OMG I want bill to pass to reenact Battle of Iwo Jima fuck the moment of silence.
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:32 pm

somebody tell me if someone's call gets through I'm going to bed.
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Postby Trippoli » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:32 pm

When does the bill take effect it says? 2014? I hope not, why wait 4 years?
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:35 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
DrunkenDove wrote:Three for three. Finally an end to NSG healthcare debates, which was of course the real accomplishment tonight. :p

Wow, I hadn't realized that! Free at last, free at last, thank Whatever Almighty, I'm free at last!

with the added benefit of wiping the smug off the republicans' faces.

its a good day!
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Postby San Guillermo » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:35 pm

Well, now it's the Senate's turn to pass the reconciliation bill, but if they have the committed 52 votes that are on the letter by Sen. Bennet of Colorado, then it should be no problem...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:35 pm

Trippoli wrote:When does the bill take effect it says? 2014? I hope not, why wait 4 years?

Parts of it take effect in 90 days.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:36 pm

Trippoli wrote:When does the bill take effect it says? 2014? I hope not, why wait 4 years?

90 days pre existing conditions for children banned.
and 26 year old on their parents insurance.

1st calender year (January 1 2011)
pre existing conditions banned.

3rd calender year
Mandate. and other stuff.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:36 pm

Trippoli wrote:When does the bill take effect it says? 2014? I hope not, why wait 4 years?

some few things start in 90 days, more over the next year, the rest by '14?
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Postby The Candy Lane » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:36 pm

15 minutes and someone still couldnt find the button? oh nvm just wanted to be a dick and take even mooore time lol
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:37 pm

San Guillermo wrote:Well, now it's the Senate's turn to pass the reconciliation bill, but if they have the committed 52 votes that are on the letter by Sen. Bennet of Colorado, then it should be no problem...

there are tons of stalling tactics that the republicans can do but since its stalling the fixes only that may not be as fun as they are anticipating.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:38 pm

Slytheronia wrote:I don't Understand why everyone thinks that free healthcare to the poor is a bad thing. My family is Very poor, and my mother doesn't have health insurance, and she will probably never be able to afford it. This could help a lot of people.

i am all for giving your mother help buying insurance
I am agaist being forced to buy insurance.
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Postby Grainne Ni Malley » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:38 pm

Who wants to get a moving van with me and go help Rush Limbaugh pack?
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Postby Topid » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:38 pm

Wow, did you guys see that? Nancy's eyebrows moved...

I knew this night was historic for something.
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The Candy Lane
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Postby The Candy Lane » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:38 pm

wat the f does iwojima have to do with health care lol
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Onderkelkia wrote:Nor was it an isolated incident. In January 2010, Canada denied a TNI embassy application.


Pro-tip; You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friends nose... That doesn't mean you should coup their government and destroy their things when they don't want to get booger on their fingers :(
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:39 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
San Guillermo wrote:Well, now it's the Senate's turn to pass the reconciliation bill, but if they have the committed 52 votes that are on the letter by Sen. Bennet of Colorado, then it should be no problem...

there are tons of stalling tactics that the republicans can do but since its stalling the fixes only that may not be as fun as they are anticipating.

and have portions of the reconciliation bill tossed out.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:39 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:Who wants to get a moving van with me and go help Rush Limbaugh pack?

lol. i hope he has a nice casita picked out in costa rica.
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Hassett
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Postby Hassett » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:40 pm

I don't want to sound like a douche (and unfortunetely I will), I don't know you so why should I help pay your health care costs?
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Postby Denecaep » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:40 pm

They are open to call-ins now! Someone post the numbers! We all need to try! Mention NationStates!
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Postby Caninope » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:40 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:Who wants to get a moving van with me and go help Rush Limbaugh pack?


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Postby San Guillermo » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:40 pm

The Candy Lane wrote:wat the f does iwojima have to do with health care lol


The bill to celebrate the anniversary of Iwo Jima is after this vote.
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:40 pm

Grainne Ni Malley wrote:Who wants to get a moving van with me and go help Rush Limbaugh pack?

Agreed but I would just end up smashing all his stuff and tossing the rest into the Ocean.
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:40 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Grainne Ni Malley wrote:Who wants to get a moving van with me and go help Rush Limbaugh pack?

lol. i hope he has a nice casita picked out in costa rica.

Some one should email him and recomend some nice spots. :lol:
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Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Slytheronia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:40 pm

greed and death wrote:
Slytheronia wrote:I don't Understand why everyone thinks that free healthcare to the poor is a bad thing. My family is Very poor, and my mother doesn't have health insurance, and she will probably never be able to afford it. This could help a lot of people.

i am all for giving your mother help buying insurance
I am agaist being forced to buy insurance.


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