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Do you want the bill to pass?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:24 am

Yes, I do!
114
42%
Kind of...
29
11%
Neutral
19
7%
No, not really
18
7%
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
91
34%
 
Total votes : 271

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United Dependencies
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:25 pm

Post-Unity Terra wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:Goddamn, Mike Pence is slimy.

How does one "Break history"?


I imagine you do it by aborting babies and banning prayer.

He's quoting the Bible. Fucking christ this shit wouldn't fly anywhere else.


It shouldn't fly here.

Socialized medicine my ass.


It's genuinely shocking to me. Watching the Lords or the Commons going at it they'll be rowdy gits but they keep the big man out of it.

I sometimes whish that Congress would through parly pro out the window.
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Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:26 pm

Helertia wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:13 minutes for the dems 15 for the GOP


Its 1:22 am and I have school tomorrow. Hurry it up here, people!


The House is made up of old people. So think of it like driving behind a senior citizen, who's going 20mph below the limit and had his left blinker on for the last mile. *nods*

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:26 pm

Zooey Deschanel wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:Goddamn, Mike Pence is slimy.

How does one "Break history"?


I imagine you do it by aborting babies and banning prayer.

He's quoting the Bible. Fucking christ this shit wouldn't fly anywhere else.


It shouldn't fly here.

Socialized medicine my ass.

If he's quoting the Bible, how about the New Testament? You know the parts where Jesus and his group shared all their money and healed people for free... :p

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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:27 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Helertia wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:13 minutes for the dems 15 for the GOP


Its 1:22 am and I have school tomorrow. Hurry it up here, people!


The House is made up of old people. So think of it like driving behind a senior citizen, who's going 20mph below the limit and had his left blinker on for the last mile. *nods*


Also he's calling himself a commie.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:27 pm

its interesting that the republicans are in favor of freedom but not reproductive freedom, only the freedoms THEY want.
whatever

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American Capitalist
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Postby American Capitalist » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:27 pm

Zooey Deschanel wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:Goddamn, Mike Pence is slimy.

How does one "Break history"?


I imagine you do it by aborting babies and banning prayer.

He's quoting the Bible. Fucking christ this shit wouldn't fly anywhere else.


It shouldn't fly here.

Socialized medicine my ass.

If he's quoting the Bible, how about the New Testament? You know the parts where Jesus and his group shared all their money and healed people for free... :p

You mean the part where they did it all with out government assistance?
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United Dependencies
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:27 pm

Mmmmm.... Doughnut hole.
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Helertia
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Postby Helertia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:27 pm

Oddly, no right wingers here yet. Parthenon! where arreee you?
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Postby Chrobalta » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:27 pm

Post-Unity Terra wrote:Goddamn, Mike Pence is slimy.

He needs to go crawl back into whatever hole he came out of.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:27 pm

I still think this needs color commentary and play by play.
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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:28 pm

Ashmoria wrote:its interesting that the republicans are in favor of freedom but not reproductive freedom, only the freedoms THEY want.


Meh, Republicans want to govern our morality, Democrats want to govern our wallet. They both suck.

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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:28 pm

Ashmoria wrote:its interesting that the republicans are in favor of freedom but not reproductive freedom, only the freedoms THEY want.


Oh yeah, they're all social libertarians, but not to non-WASPs, especially if they believe in womens' rights.

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Postby Caninope » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:28 pm

Ashmoria wrote:its interesting that the republicans are in favor of freedom but not reproductive freedom, only the freedoms THEY want.


I don't see how it's fair that you force someone to buy something.
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:28 pm

Wilgrove wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:its interesting that the republicans are in favor of freedom but not reproductive freedom, only the freedoms THEY want.


Meh, Republicans want to govern our morality, Democrats want to govern our wallet. They both suck.

Either the parties need to go or we need to add some more.

edit:Mmmmm.... Doughnut Hole.
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Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:28 pm

SaintB wrote:I still think this needs color commentary and play by play.


Hell yea!

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Postby Canada Provinces » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:28 pm

I don't see the point in this bill. Its use less, and a waste of every one's tax money. This bill will probably take this country even farther into an economic depression.

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Postby Post-Unity Terra » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:28 pm

Chrobalta wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:Goddamn, Mike Pence is slimy.

He needs to go crawl back into whatever hole he came out of.


His poor, poor mother. :(

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Postby Helertia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:28 pm

American Capitalist wrote:
Zooey Deschanel wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:
United Dependencies wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:Goddamn, Mike Pence is slimy.

How does one "Break history"?


I imagine you do it by aborting babies and banning prayer.

He's quoting the Bible. Fucking christ this shit wouldn't fly anywhere else.


It shouldn't fly here.

Socialized medicine my ass.

If he's quoting the Bible, how about the New Testament? You know the parts where Jesus and his group shared all their money and healed people for free... :p

You mean the part where they did it all with out government assistance?


GODAMNIT, as I said it....
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Postby Lydeana » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:29 pm

It's like two Competitors arguing over who's going to get the Bronze Medal for the Special Olympics, only both of them speak better then the folks for/against the health-care, and instead of arguing over the medal itself, they're arguing over dead squirrel that got ran over by a Prius.


Actually I think the Two Competitors could solve this better than both parties combined.
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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:29 pm

anyone notice how they keep pushing the deadline back? moved from 9:30 to 10:00.
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Postby American Capitalist » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:29 pm

Ashmoria wrote:its interesting that the republicans are in favor of freedom but not reproductive freedom, only the freedoms THEY want.


They see it as infringing on the babies right and also as quasi-murder.
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Postby Chrobalta » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:29 pm

Post-Unity Terra wrote:
Chrobalta wrote:
Post-Unity Terra wrote:Goddamn, Mike Pence is slimy.

He needs to go crawl back into whatever hole he came out of.


His poor, poor mother. :(

That would be cruel and unusual for her, I could settle for him going to live under a bridge somewhere.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:29 pm

Caninope wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:its interesting that the republicans are in favor of freedom but not reproductive freedom, only the freedoms THEY want.


I don't see how it's fair that you force someone to buy something.

yeah what a burden it is to "force" you to buy something you want.
whatever

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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:30 pm

Is it just me, or does it seem like a teenager could make better speeches than some of these people?
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

This is Nationstates we're here to help

Are you a native or resident of North Carolina?

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Postby Wilgrove » Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:30 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Wilgrove wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:its interesting that the republicans are in favor of freedom but not reproductive freedom, only the freedoms THEY want.


Meh, Republicans want to govern our morality, Democrats want to govern our wallet. They both suck.

Either the parties need to go or we need to add some more.

edit:Mmmmm.... Doughnut Hole.


Hell yes! I'll agree to either one.

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