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Do you want the bill to pass?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:24 am

Yes, I do!
114
42%
Kind of...
29
11%
Neutral
19
7%
No, not really
18
7%
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
91
34%
 
Total votes : 271
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Helertia
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Postby Helertia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:14 pm

Parthenon wrote:
Helertia wrote:An American friend of mine is saying that it's just been passed, but I still see debates. Can someone source this rumour?

Your friend is wrong.


So it seems. Oh, he saw the MSNBC title and jumped. False alarm!
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:14 pm

Rolling squid wrote:
Helertia wrote:Oh, finally a rebuttal of the lies
Oh, wait, they're calling the rebuttal lies


actually, I think they're calling the rebuttal rude.


What did he say? I was peeing.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:15 pm

Alright, to kill the silence I flipped over to the 24 hour news channels, first up was MSNBC, the cable lists what's on as "The Mind of Manson."

Add to that they are interviewing Daniel Lungren (R).


(during the weekend MSNBC usually runs a bunch of true crime shows that they are preempting for this.)
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Helertia
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Postby Helertia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:15 pm

Takaram wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Helertia wrote:Oh, finally a rebuttal of the lies
Oh, wait, they're calling the rebuttal lies


actually, I think they're calling the rebuttal rude.


What did he say? I was peeing.


Soldiers and Vetrans rights/healthcare. Republicans claimed the bill would kill it. They're deciding on it now
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Rolling squid
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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:15 pm

Takaram wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Helertia wrote:Oh, finally a rebuttal of the lies
Oh, wait, they're calling the rebuttal lies


actually, I think they're calling the rebuttal rude.


What did he say? I was peeing.


IIRC, called the republicans out for saying the democrats don't care about veterans.

EDIT: challenged not for content, but rather for directly mentioning another member.
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:15 pm

Helertia wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Helertia wrote:Oh, finally a rebuttal of the lies
Oh, wait, they're calling the rebuttal lies


actually, I think they're calling the rebuttal rude.


What did he say? I was peeing.


Soldiers and Vetrans rights/healthcare. Republicans claimed the bill would kill it. They're deciding on it now


Of course.
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Zooey Deschanel
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Postby Zooey Deschanel » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:17 pm

Helertia wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Helertia wrote:Oh, finally a rebuttal of the lies
Oh, wait, they're calling the rebuttal lies


actually, I think they're calling the rebuttal rude.


What did he say? I was peeing.


Soldiers and Vetrans rights/healthcare. Republicans claimed the bill would kill it. They're deciding on it now

Did they explain how?
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EvilDarkMagicians
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:18 pm

Zeppy wrote:The House of Representatives has just passed a law banning death and curing all diseases.
Allah akbar.


TAKBIR!
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United Dependencies
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:18 pm

Rolling squid wrote:
The High Lizzleness wrote:Is there any indication at all when the actual vote shall be?


It's two hours of debate; which started at 6:30-ish. So we're in the last half hour, I hope.

c-span predicts 9:30
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Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

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Helertia
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Postby Helertia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:18 pm

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Zeppy wrote:The House of Representatives has just passed a law banning death and curing all diseases.
Allah akbar.


TAKBIR!


BED!
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Rolling squid
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Postby Rolling squid » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:18 pm

Zooey Deschanel wrote:
Helertia wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Helertia wrote:Oh, finally a rebuttal of the lies
Oh, wait, they're calling the rebuttal lies


actually, I think they're calling the rebuttal rude.


What did he say? I was peeing.


Soldiers and Vetrans rights/healthcare. Republicans claimed the bill would kill it. They're deciding on it now

Did they explain how?


Not really
Hammurab wrote:An athiest doesn't attend mass, go to confession, or know a lot about catholicism. So basically, an athiest is the same as a catholic.


Post-Unity Terra wrote:Golly gosh, one group of out-of-touch rich white guys is apparently more in touch with the average man than the other group of out-of-touch rich white guys.
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:18 pm

Does anyone else notice that the Republicans seem to be flaunting any military service they might have had?
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United Dependencies
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:19 pm

C-Span predicts a 9:30 vote.
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

This is Nationstates we're here to help

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Helertia
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Postby Helertia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:19 pm

Zooey Deschanel wrote:
Helertia wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Helertia wrote:Oh, finally a rebuttal of the lies
Oh, wait, they're calling the rebuttal lies


actually, I think they're calling the rebuttal rude.


What did he say? I was peeing.


Soldiers and Vetrans rights/healthcare. Republicans claimed the bill would kill it. They're deciding on it now

Did they explain how?


Usual Republican BS. Medicaid gutted, premiums up and so on.
Do hypocrites hate hypocrisy?
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The High Lizzleness
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Founded: Jul 21, 2009
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Postby The High Lizzleness » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:20 pm

United Dependencies wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
The High Lizzleness wrote:Is there any indication at all when the actual vote shall be?


It's two hours of debate; which started at 6:30-ish. So we're in the last half hour, I hope.

c-span predicts 9:30


Okay, thanks everyone.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:20 pm

Takaram wrote:Does anyone else notice that the Republicans seem to be flaunting any military service they might have had?

They always do that. So do the Democrats. It's traditional. Sort of like George Bush touting his Air National Guard experience against John Kerry's combat service in Vietnam, back in 2004.
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Postby Zooey Deschanel » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:21 pm

Takaram wrote:Does anyone else notice that the Republicans seem to be flaunting any military service they might have had?

Well of course because all republicans were in the military and all democrats were card-carrying commies hurr durr.
The Republicans love to talk about the military as long as they don't have to talk to the guys and girls missing body parts because of their Operation Halliburton Profits.
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:21 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Takaram wrote:Does anyone else notice that the Republicans seem to be flaunting any military service they might have had?

They always do that. So do the Democrats. It's traditional. Sort of like George Bush touting his Air National Guard experience against John Kerry's combat service in Vietnam, back in 2004.


Yeah, I know, but so far it's only been Republicans since I started watching.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:21 pm

Helertia wrote:
Zooey Deschanel wrote:
Helertia wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:
Helertia wrote:Oh, finally a rebuttal of the lies
Oh, wait, they're calling the rebuttal lies


actually, I think they're calling the rebuttal rude.


What did he say? I was peeing.


Soldiers and Vetrans rights/healthcare. Republicans claimed the bill would kill it. They're deciding on it now

Did they explain how?


Usual Republican BS. Medicaid gutted, premiums up and so on.

See also Straws, Grasped At.

I think what we're seeing from the GOP is the ritual of Getting On The Record. These words will be used in the autumn campaign to try to persuade the voters in the Congressional districts that their Representative stood tall in the face of the opposition to preserve liberty and freedom and the American way of life.
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Make Earth Great Again: Stop Continental Drift!
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water ...
"Make yourself at home, Frank. Hit somebody." RIP Don Rickles
My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right. ~ Carl Schurz
<Sigh> NSG...where even the atheists are Augustinians. ~ The Archregimancy
Now the foot is on the other hand ~ Kannap
RIP Dyakovo ... Ashmoria (Freedom ... or cake)
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Postby Bramborska » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:22 pm

Takaram wrote:Does anyone else notice that the Republicans seem to be flaunting any military service they might have had?


Show me politicians (or, for that matter, NSGers) who don't flaunt their (e)penises and I'll show you an alien.
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:23 pm

Bramborska wrote:
Takaram wrote:Does anyone else notice that the Republicans seem to be flaunting any military service they might have had?


Show me politicians (or, for that matter, NSGers) who don't flaunt their (e)penises and I'll show you an alien.


I was referring to this debate specifically.
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Helertia
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Postby Helertia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:23 pm

I see doom! dooom and ttaaxxeeesss! AAAHHHH!!!
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Takaram
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Postby Takaram » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:23 pm

Helertia wrote:I see doom! dooom and ttaaxxeeesss! AAAHHHH!!!


Basically :p

EDIT: From McDermit too
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United Dependencies
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Postby United Dependencies » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:24 pm

Where's the house minority leader?
Alien Space Bats wrote:2012: The Year We Lost Contact (with Reality).

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Obamacult wrote:Maybe there is an economically sound and rational reason why there are no longer high paying jobs for qualified accountants, assembly line workers, glass blowers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc.

Maybe dragons took their jobs. Maybe unicorns only hid their jobs because unicorns are dicks. Maybe 'jobs' is only an illusion created by a drug addled infant pachyderm. Fuck dude, if we're in 'maybe' land, don't hold back.

This is Nationstates we're here to help

Are you a native or resident of North Carolina?
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Zooey Deschanel
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Postby Zooey Deschanel » Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:24 pm

Helertia wrote:I see doom! dooom and ttaaxxeeesss! AAAHHHH!!!

Duh, cuz this healthcare bill will make gay marriage and abortions and atheism MANDATORY.
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