Senator John Mccain has Brain Cancer.

by **Luminesa** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:39 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:My Aunt had much the same thing, Guy's gonna be dead in less than a year. Hopefully he will advocate for open access to the same kind of healthcare he's gonna get on our tax money

...Is the snappy comment at the end really necessary?

by **The Feylands** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:40 am

Felt so sad when I heard this.

I always liked Mccain and found him very enlightening when he was talking about the issues closes to his heart, like foreign policy. We all have to return to the earth some day, but this guy has so much more to offer the living before he departs. Hope there's some way to make him okay.

by **Great Minarchistan** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:48 am

The Feylands wrote:Felt so sad when I heard this. I always liked Mccain and found him very enlightening when he was talking about the issues closes to his heart, like foreign policy. We all have to return to the earth some day, but this guy has so much more to offer the living before he departs. Hope there's some way to make him okay.

Sadly the chances are extremely scarce, below 1% if you ask me. It's a hard cancer, located on the brain and well, he is 80.

by **Khalisako** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:56 am

AS much i dislike him for vaorus reason, I acutally od hope he get's better.

it's unlikely tho.

I alwyas seen him to be a nice kinda guy.

by **Klorgia1** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:01 am

Even if I disagree with his politics, I do hope he gets better. The senate would lose one of it's most principled politicians. My condolences to his family if this is the end.

by **Yes Im Biop** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:03 am

Luminesa wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:My Aunt had much the same thing, Guy's gonna be dead in less than a year. Hopefully he will advocate for open access to the same kind of healthcare he's gonna get on our tax money

...Is the snappy comment at the end really necessary?

Yes

by **Arctica-Aleutia** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:05 am

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...Is the snappy comment at the end really necessary?

Yes

Why? Can't we just put politics aside for once? Is it his fault he has cancer? Is he responsible for everything wrong with healthcare? Is he in charge of what healthcare senators get?

by **Neutraligon** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:12 am

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Yes

Why? Can't we just put politics aside for once? Is it his fault he has cancer? Is he responsible for everything wrong with healthcare? Is he in charge of what healthcare senators get?

Because the very thing he is facing is why healthcare needs to be dealt with. Is it his fault he has cancer, no but then many people are not at fault for the healthcare they need, and yet it is ridiculously expensive for them to get it. Is he responsible for everything wrong, again no, but he is in part responsible for fixing what is wrong. Is he responsible for the healthcare senators get, in a way yes, since he could vote to not allow senators to get that healthcare.

by **Arctica-Aleutia** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:13 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Arctica-Aleutia wrote:Why? Can't we just put politics aside for once? Is it his fault he has cancer? Is he responsible for everything wrong with healthcare? Is he in charge of what healthcare senators get?

Because the very thing he is facing is why healthcare needs to be dealt with. Is it his fault he has cancer, no but then many people are not at fault for the healthcare they need, and yet it is ridiculously expensive for them to get it. Is he responsible for everything wrong, again no, but he is in part responsible for fixing what is wrong. Is he responsible for the healthcare senators get, in a way yes, since he could vote to not allow senators to get that healthcare.

Regardless of whether we're in a position to give regular people the same healthcare that senators have, taking it away from the senators doesn't take us any closer to solving the problem.

by **Calladan** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:15 am

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Yes

Why? Can't we just put politics aside for once? Is it his fault he has cancer? Is he responsible for everything wrong with healthcare? Is he in charge of what healthcare senators get?

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... -exemption

Apparently

by **Neutraligon** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:17 am

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Because the very thing he is facing is why healthcare needs to be dealt with. Is it his fault he has cancer, no but then many people are not at fault for the healthcare they need, and yet it is ridiculously expensive for them to get it. Is he responsible for everything wrong, again no, but he is in part responsible for fixing what is wrong. Is he responsible for the healthcare senators get, in a way yes, since he could vote to not allow senators to get that healthcare.

Regardless of whether we're in a position to give regular people the same healthcare that senators have, taking it away from the senators doesn't take us any closer to solving the problem.

No but it would mean that senators face similar issues that the rest of America faces and give them greater incentive to fix the issues.

by **Arctica-Aleutia** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:19 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Arctica-Aleutia wrote:Regardless of whether we're in a position to give regular people the same healthcare that senators have, taking it away from the senators doesn't take us any closer to solving the problem.

No but it would mean that senators face similar issues that the rest of America faces and give them greater incentive to fix the issues.

I don't know the salary a senator typically has, but most are probably well-off enough to pay for private healthcare. And most if not all of them want to fix the healthcare situation already. Whether or not they're doing a good job is a different matter...

by **Neutraligon** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:21 am

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:No but it would mean that senators face similar issues that the rest of America faces and give them greater incentive to fix the issues.

I don't know the salary a senator typically has, but most are probably well-off enough to pay for private healthcare. And most if not all of them want to fix the healthcare situation already. Whether or not they're doing a good job is a different matter...

And they get basically free healthcare on top of making a good amount of money. Them having to deal with the healthcare market would still make them face somewhat of a similar situation to many Americans. As to them wanting to fix it, given that they had 7 years to work on fixing it already, and many instead focused on saying they want it repealed and replaced without coming up with a replacement I would debate that.

by **Swith Witherward** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:22 am

I've heard prognosis (with treatment) for malignant glioblastoma falls between 2 months to 4 years, though seldom does anyone of his age make it beyond 14 months.

It saddens me to no end. I don't agree with McCain on all his policies, but I've always appreciated his advocacy for Veteran's health, especially his efforts to co-sponsor bills like the Clay Hunt Suicide Prevention for American Veterans Act. McCain's hard efforts have benefited so many servicemen and servicewomen, contrary to what that jackass, Trump, brays to the general public. I can only hope someone will step in and take the reins once McCain passes on.

by **Balloch** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:23 am

I am not from America so it doesn't seem my opinion will matter, but I paid close attention to the 2016 general election across the pond and noticed that of all the Republicans, McCain was always principled and stood for actual American conservative values. For that I have tremendous respect for him, and its tragic that such a gargantuan of conservative politics has to go through something to horrid even if I agree with him on 0 issues.

by **MERIZoC** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:28 pm

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Yes

Why? Can't we just put politics aside for once? Is it his fault he has cancer? Is he responsible for everything wrong with healthcare? Is he in charge of what healthcare senators get?

Why do people have this notion that the events and actions around a politician should not be political?

by **MERIZoC** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:31 pm

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:No but it would mean that senators face similar issues that the rest of America faces and give them greater incentive to fix the issues.

I don't know the salary a senator typically has, but most are probably well-off enough to pay for private healthcare. And most if not all of them want to fix the healthcare situation already. Whether or not they're doing a good job is a different matter...

Bullshit. McCain and others like him want to suck money out of the pockets of the poor and distribute it further upwards.

by **Arctica-Aleutia** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:34 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Arctica-Aleutia wrote:Why? Can't we just put politics aside for once? Is it his fault he has cancer? Is he responsible for everything wrong with healthcare? Is he in charge of what healthcare senators get?

Why do people have this notion that the events and actions around a politician should not be political?

Because cancer isn't a political matter. Just because it happens to a senator doesn't mean that it should be politicized or that he shouldn't get sympathy.

MERIZoC wrote:
Arctica-Aleutia wrote:I don't know the salary a senator typically has, but most are probably well-off enough to pay for private healthcare. And most if not all of them want to fix the healthcare situation already. Whether or not they're doing a good job is a different matter...

Bullshit. McCain and others like him want to suck money out of the pockets of the poor and distribute it further upwards.

That's not true...

by **Great Minarchistan** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:43 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Arctica-Aleutia wrote:Why? Can't we just put politics aside for once? Is it his fault he has cancer? Is he responsible for everything wrong with healthcare? Is he in charge of what healthcare senators get?

Why do people have this notion that the events and actions around a politician should not be political?

They should. But pick it and start rubbing on the face of a guy who just discovered he is a step away from death is ruthless.

by **USS Monitor** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:13 pm

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Bullshit. McCain and others like him want to suck money out of the pockets of the poor and distribute it further upwards.

That's not true...

It kinda is, though.

by **Arctica-Aleutia** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:14 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Arctica-Aleutia wrote:

That's not true...

It kinda is, though.

How do you know? I'm just asking. I don't know everything about these people...

by **The Black Forrest** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:17 pm

Didn't care for him but I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

by **USS Monitor** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:27 pm

Arctica-Aleutia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
It kinda is, though.

How do you know? I'm just asking. I don't know everything about these people...

Cos the GOP is trying to gut Medicaid, and McCain isn't pushing back.

by **Improved werpland** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:28 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Arctica-Aleutia wrote:

That's not true...

It kinda is, though.

Conservatives like McCain don't want to redistribute wealth upwards, they just don't see how some of their policies do that.

by **Northwest Slobovia** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:35 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Arctica-Aleutia wrote:How do you know? I'm just asking. I don't know everything about these people...

Cos the GOP is trying to gut Medicaid, and McCain isn't pushing back.

*adjusts Monitor's fire control system*

AZCentral wrote:Sen. John McCain expressed disappointment Thursday that the latest rewrite of the Senate Republican health-care bill did not adequately shield Arizona's Medicaid system, which would face an estimated $7.1 billion hit by the end of 2026.

Despite McCain's efforts to insert language to soften the blow to the state, the new bill still would eliminate by 2024 federal money for Arizona and other states that expanded Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

The Medicaid cuts were one of the original draft's most controversial elements, and its passage is by no means assured in the Senate, where Republicans can't lose more than two votes from their party.

...

In a written statement, McCain, R-Ariz., vowed to champion amendments that he is authoring in consultation with Republican Gov. Doug Ducey and others from Arizona, provided the bill makes it to the Senate floor.

"Arizona has been nationally recognized for running one of the most efficient and cost-effective Medicaid programs in the country," McCain said. "This legislation should reward states like Arizona that are responsibly managing their health-care services and controlling costs — not penalize them."

...

As summarized in his statement, McCain's goal is to make sure Arizona isn't hurt because it expanded Medicaid as allowed under former President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act, or "Obamacare," which the new Better Care Reconciliation Act, or "Trumpcare," aims to undo.

McCain wants to give Arizona and the other 30 expansion states more time to adapt their budgets to the loss of federal money and prevent an abrupt loss of coverage for the 14 million Americans nationwide who benefit from the expanded program.

He also wants to alter the Medicaid growth rate in a way that he says would protect Arizona.

McCain further doesn't want to see the state pay a price for having passed Proposition 204, a pre-Obamacare, voter-approved decision in 2000 to boost the number of people eligible for the Arizona Health Care Cost Containment System, the official name of Arizona's Medicaid agency.

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