Asian Unification

[Republic of Penguinian Astronautia]

It is a good idea. But it won't happen for a very long time. Asia is a very large and complex place.

[Thermodolia]

So, we can expect the merger of North Korea and South Korea, China and Taiwan, Iran and Iraq, and the joys that are India and Pakistan... yes, absolutely a good idea.

Oh don't forget Israel

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

There's an easy way to unite Asia. Though, it does involve necromancy and Mongol raiders...

best suggestion ever.

[Thermodolia]

Glad to see Real China's going to lead Asia into a glorious future.

Decolonize your mind, my Filipino friend, and don't champion western interests contrary to your own.

The People's Republic holds the people's mandate.
We've had the honor of witnessing the end of 'British Xianggang' and 'Aomen Português'.
The Taiwan Province errancy too will be resolved in our lifetime.

Not on my watch. The two Chinas will end but it will be the PRC that does and not the ROC.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Decolonize your mind, my Filipino friend, and don't champion western interests contrary to your own.

The People's Republic holds the people's mandate.
We've had the honor of witnessing the end of 'British Xianggang' and 'Aomen Português'.
The Taiwan Province errancy too will be resolved in our lifetime.

Not on my watch. The two Chinas will end but it will be the PRC that does and not the ROC.

Good God I think I may have triggered a war.....

[Thermodolia]

Don't forget a united Middle East, given that, without such political boundaries of nationalism that now keep the Middle East apart, I can nearly guarantee that they would unite.

Yes, I agree with this post, a united Middle East of Arab nations, please see my post above.

It's been done and it failed. A United Middle East will never happen unless one nation rules all the rest

[Thermodolia]

Not on my watch. The two Chinas will end but it will be the PRC that does and not the ROC.

Good God I think I may have triggered a war.....

Nope no war just a US sponsored coup in the PRC.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Good God I think I may have triggered a war.....

Nope no war just a US sponsored coup in the PRC.

ive literally failed as a human...

[Pasong Tirad]

Glad to see Real China's going to lead Asia into a glorious future.

Decolonize your mind, my Filipino friend, and don't champion western interests contrary to your own.

The People's Real Republic holds the people's mandate.
The whole world has We've had the honor of witnessing the end of 'British Xianggang' and 'Aomen Português' Western colonization
The Taiwan Province errancy too will be resolved in our lifetime.

Funny, "Western interests" (and by that I mean the world's interests) are for the resolution of Taiwan's (Real China's) diplomatic status which the Mainland currently holds hostage.

Chinese interests are to bankrupt Southeast Asia on "credit" with exorbitant interest rates, hold hostage the sovereignty of nations and territories under the guise of "curtailing Western interests," rejecting the rights of different peoples to their own self-determination and illegally occupy territory that it doesn't own - East Turkestan, Tibet, the East Vietnamese Sea, North Natuna Sea and the West Philippine Sea, to name a few.

I'm very decolonized, thank you very much, but the colonizer is no longer across the ocean but right next door. He didn't bring soldiers, but he brought us ships, a president, and loans the Mainland tries to pass off as gifts we need to pay back.

Taiwan - forever and always - number one.

[Al Hiwariyya al oula]

I would argue with the formation of several unions within Asia. Several Arab countries although with striking differences can make unions and perhaps in central Asia several countries can make unions.

I guess it really depends on the people you're joining together, their lifestyles, ideals, and the type of union you're making. If it is a democracy, (even a properly representative democracy) many people will feel overwhelmed by the amount of voters from other areas of the union.

A dictatorship isn't better neither. I guess this should be a very studied mode of governance that takes into account all the complexities of decision-making in the world's largest continent with about a third of its population.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Considering that there is still some anti-Japanese feelings in Korea (north and south) plus the fact that it would also involve among others : Russia, India and, China trying to get two nations with over a billion people in them to unite under one would be impossible. Russia is against most anything unifying and let's not get started on the middle east.

Also, how would it work? China and Vietnam are Communist, North Korea has a crazy shite head at the helm, Japan and South Korea would be ok, if it wasn't for the history of Japan conquering Korea a bunch and everywhere else has a lot of other problems.

So, yeah, not possible. Unless a world government came together peacefully and democratically there is no real way for an Asian unifying state, as government would be impossible and disagreed with by most everyone.

[Imperial--japan]

Unification? Don't think it'll happen in my lifetime.

Funny enough, separation & independence from Malaysia is being celebrated here on August 9th.

[Tokora]

I really love the idea but the problem is that China would force its way into dominance and use the rest of the state as second class peasants for Beijing. If instead it was led by Japan or India (preferably India) than I'd be all for it.

Do have a look at ASEAN.

Japan blew its credit during the Second World War. India is a sociopolitical construct.
ASEAN is the new SEATO and destined to share its fate.

China will lead the way.

I only brought up Japan because it's both a counter against China and has been pacifist since Hiroshima (though that might change if China and North Korea keep up their antics). Personally I prefer India and would rather use Japan as a threat to keep Beijing in line.

Dude, my nation is based on this idea. A pan-Asian empire ruled by mighty, wise, and kindhearted nobles. An empire of God on earth, with enough power to crush any evil in the world. So yea, that's Amenria in a nutshell, what did you want to hear again?

So it's not ruled by Chinese I'll take?

[Zottistan]

If Asia unify they'll get too many reinforcements next round and we'll all be fucked.

[Rio Cana]

I like the idea, but there are so many things that we would have to play favourites on. Like, communism or capitalism? There are plenty of communist states in Asia, but plenty of capitalist states too. Also, the cultural differences of india nd china, despite sharing a border, are too great to unify the two. This goes for the rest if Asia too.

That is why a united Asia wont happen, no I don't like the idea because of the cultural diffrences. The most likely possibility is a united Arab nation of African and Asian Arab nations.

The Arab nations of Africa and Asia can unite as an Arab Nation. Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan,Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan with Turkey either through association or conquest by Turkey into a Greater Turkey. If I were President of Turkey Erdoğan that is what I would aim towards, forget any Turkish lands or related people by culture or language in Russia. You also have the nation of Kurdistan or Greater Kurdistan. let's not forget Israel.

The Pacific islands of Oceania should be under the control of Australia and New Zealand as a federation of Australia and New Zealand.

Seems I found a Turkish soap opera watcher.

The greater majority of the people of Tajikistan are not Turks. There language is even related to the Persian language and not Turkic language.
Turkmenistan and some of the others are kind of wary of Turkey at times. They love Turkish investment but not Turkish influence.

Read - https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/ ... rkmenistan

By the way, with Armenia and the Republic of Nagorno Karabakh in the way, this greater Turkey is going nowhere.

[UKCS]

I really love the idea but the problem is that China would force its way into dominance and use the rest of the state as second class peasants for Beijing. If instead it was led by Japan or India (preferably India) than I'd be all for it.

Japan controlling Asia... it really doesn't have a good history....

[New Rogernomics]

Think we are far away from any concept of world government, on any continent.

Can't see it happening unless more governments become secular and democratic, and start to enthusiastically support human rights.

However that is probably centuries away, if it happens at all, as it would require countries like China to lose their authoritarian government.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Think we are far away from any concept of world government, on any continent.

Can't see it happening unless more governments become secular and democratic, and start to enthusiastically support human rights.

However that is probably centuries away, if it happens at all, as it would require countries like China to lose their authoritarian government.

sorry darth vader-cat doesn't get to comment on Asian unification seeing as he want to destroy the whole galaxy anyway.

XD

[Valrifell]

Think we are far away from any concept of world government, on any continent.

Can't see it happening unless more governments become secular and democratic, and start to enthusiastically support human rights.

However that is probably centuries away, if it happens at all, as it would require countries like China to lose their authoritarian government.

We can get there faster if people didn't get so annoyed at the US "Liberating" places and delivering heavy dosages of FREEDOM.

[Major-Tom]

Do you want ethnic strife and violence? Because that's how you get it.

[Uinted Communist of Africa]

Think we are far away from any concept of world government, on any continent.

Can't see it happening unless more governments become secular and democratic, and start to enthusiastically support human rights.

However that is probably centuries away, if it happens at all, as it would require countries like China to lose their authoritarian government.

We can get there faster if people didn't get so annoyed at the US "Liberating" places and delivering heavy dosages of FREEDOM.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

The only way that is ever going to happen is by violent force alone.

There are more different peoples living in India alone than there are in the entirety of the Western world. Same is true for most other Asian nations. Unifying all these diverse cultures, religions and ethnic groups by any means other than forceful empire-building is a plain and simple impossibility.

[The Greater Aryan Race]

The last time a certain nation tried to "unify" Asia under its own control, it did not end well and my ancestors then were made to suffer terribly for that.

So no, Asian unification is a myth and a terribly flawed and silly concept.

[Greater Miami Shores]

That is why a united Asia wont happen, no I don't like the idea because of the cultural diffrences. The most likely possibility is a united Arab nation of African and Asian Arab nations.

The Arab nations of Africa and Asia can unite as an Arab Nation. Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgystan,Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan with Turkey either through association or conquest by Turkey into a Greater Turkey. If I were President of Turkey Erdoğan that is what I would aim towards, forget any Turkish lands or related people by culture or language in Russia. You also have the nation of Kurdistan or Greater Kurdistan. let's not forget Israel.

The Pacific islands of Oceania should be under the control of Australia and New Zealand as a federation of Australia and New Zealand.

Seems I found a Turkish soap opera watcher.

The greater majority of the people of Tajikistan are not Turks. There language is even related to the Persian language and not Turkic language.
Turkmenistan and some of the others are kind of wary of Turkey at times. They love Turkish investment but not Turkish influence.

Read - https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/ ... rkmenistan

By the way, with Armenia and the Republic of Nagorno Karabakh in the way, this greater Turkey is going nowhere.

For the record, the last post was 11 days ago, within the 2 weeks thread post limit.
ok, fair enough I got one out of 7 nations wrong not bad at all. Perhaps I read this

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_T ... ent_states
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_languages

a long time ago, and that is where I got the idea that they were related at least by language.

Actually I also read a news story many years ago that suggested this union. If they want to unite or not into an economic and or political and economic union, or a Greater Turkey it is up to them not to me, or up to its strong arm leaders.

If Erdogan could conquer them and force them to accept the union in one way or another I'm sure he would do so. If I were Erdogan and I could conquer them and force them to accept the union one way or another I would do so.

Yes, Erdogan would have to conquer Armenia to connect it to Azerbaijan, and the lands across the Caspian Sea, and their is the problem of the Republic of Nagorno Karabakh,
dosent stop the other nations from forming their own union, dosent mean they still cant be connected to Turkey in some form of union, it makes it harder but not impossible, and up to them not to me.

I also pointed out their is Kurdistan or Greater Kurdistan.

Your news story refers to a, "hot and cold relationship with the Central Asian states" "But Turkey is crucial for Turkmenistan. Turkey is Turkmenistan's top import partner" "Erdogan may feel he can use his strong connections with Turkmenistan's elite business circles and government officials" "the current Turkmen president has taken away some of the business groups' influence and has set up a system of governance that relies more on his decisions than on lobbying from special interests"

Sounds like a fair and balanced news story, like Fox News Fair and Balanced

[Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commanders]

No. For one thing, say Latin American unification – minus Brazil they all were once owned by Spain and speak the same language. Asia has a complex history, many different peoples, and many different languages.