North American Unification

[Big Jim P]

like we have the money

You act as if the Untied States isn't the wealthiest nation in the history of ever.

I read somewhere that even the American poor are (when considered globally) are the 1%.

[The Sauganash Union]

Ever heard the story of Yugoslavia?

Basically, it was a bunch of different cultures in one nation. When their leader died they all killed each other and became the mess of Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro, FYROM and Slovenia it is today. All of those nations practically have the "Press here to destroy country X" button right on the leader's desk of each country.

North America uniting would just cause even more Tribalism between a already divided continent, especially in Central America. Heck, Canada and the USA might even despise each other years later.

A North American Union would probably start a war in the Southwest. Mexicans would see as American imperialism and Americans would see it as Mexico leeching onto their country.

[Valrifell]

But the disease is their lack of economic opportunity or security in their homes. If we put a lot of effort during integration into improving their police forces and local economies, they won't have any reason to head north. America will have come to them.

They're not our problem. We have an infrastructure crisis here and you want to build up countries that barely have infrastructure at a 1st world level.

Infrastructure caused by money being thrown at the wrong things, not a lack of funds.

[The of Japan]

You act as if the Untied States isn't the wealthiest nation in the history of ever.

Yeah, it's because most of the world is dirt poor, not because the United States is just made of gold.

it cost Germany over 3 trillion in costs in reunification and east Germany still isn't on par with west Germany. Mexico has a population of almost 100 million, so it would be yuuuuge the costs

[The Sauganash Union]

Yeah, it's because most of the world is dirt poor, not because the United States is just made of gold.

No, no, not just the world.

The history of ever.

Most of human existence has been short, poor, and miserable. Just because the United States has managed to do better than the rest doesn't mean we can, or should, do this.

[Pasong Tirad]

They're not our problem. We have an infrastructure crisis here and you want to build up countries that barely have infrastructure at a 1st world level.

Infrastructure caused by money being thrown at the wrong things, not a lack of funds.

I can already hear the drones from the military-industrial complex buzzing over your house.

[The of Japan]

They're not our problem. We have an infrastructure crisis here and you want to build up countries that barely have infrastructure at a 1st world level.

Infrastructure caused by money being thrown at the wrong things, not a lack of funds.

say that again when Russia is supreme over europe

[Ifreann]

Would anyone benefit from this? Not including people whose only concern is what political maps look like.

Free trade, free movement, single set of goverment regulations, single currency.

Those are positives.

All the reasons one would support a unified earth government or a larger roLe for the EU.

How did you learn of our secret plans for world domination?!

[The Sauganash Union]

They're not our problem. We have an infrastructure crisis here and you want to build up countries that barely have infrastructure at a 1st world level.

Infrastructure caused by money being thrown at the wrong things, not a lack of funds.

Why should American taxpayers subsidize another country?

[Polish Theocracy of Joakim]

like we have the money

You act as if the Untied States isn't the wealthiest nation in the history of ever.

Hell, even our poor can afford many items not necessary for survival. Like, Vidya, Nail Polish, TVs, etc.

[The Sauganash Union]

Yeah, it's because most of the world is dirt poor, not because the United States is just made of gold.

it cost Germany over 3 trillion in costs in reunification and east Germany still isn't on par with west Germany. Mexico has a population of almost 100 million, so it would be yuuuuge the costs

German reunification was between two countries that even spoke the same language, had the same ethnic core, the same history, and several strong family ties, and it was still expensive, difficult, and mostly incomplete.

Mexico would be a nightmare.

[Big Jim P]

Ever heard the story of Yugoslavia?

Basically, it was a bunch of different cultures in one nation. When their leader died they all killed each other and became the mess of Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro, FYROM and Slovenia it is today. All of those nations practically have the "Press here to destroy country X" button right on the leader's desk of each country.

North America uniting would just cause even more Tribalism between a already divided continent, especially in Central America. Heck, Canada and the USA might even despise each other years later.

A North American Union would probably start a war in the Southwest. Mexicans would see as American imperialism and Americans would see it as Mexico leeching onto their country.

There are a few practical problems with the idea.

[Polish Theocracy of Joakim]

Would anyone benefit from this? Not including people whose only concern is what political maps look like.

Free trade, free movement, single set of government regulations, single currency.

Revolts, Rise in Nationalism, Easier Terrorism, Easier movement of Illegal goods, Polish People invading the UK, English invading Poland


You don't want any of those things to happen, it won't end well.

[The of Japan]

it cost Germany over 3 trillion in costs in reunification and east Germany still isn't on par with west Germany. Mexico has a population of almost 100 million, so it would be yuuuuge the costs

German reunification was between two countries that even spoke the same language, had the same ethnic core, the same history, and several strong family ties, and it was still expensive, difficult, and mostly incomplete.

Mexico would be a nightmare.

MExico doesn't even want unification either

[The Sauganash Union]

A North American Union would probably start a war in the Southwest. Mexicans would see as American imperialism and Americans would see it as Mexico leeching onto their country.

Tbf who cares about the South in this regard? They bitch about EVERYTHING!

Wrong South.

[Arcturus Novus]

I can see zero good outcomes to this, honestly. While I'd love to see further dissolution of borders, societal homogeneity, etc., that just isn't possible in the world's current social and political climate.

[The Sauganash Union]

German reunification was between two countries that even spoke the same language, had the same ethnic core, the same history, and several strong family ties, and it was still expensive, difficult, and mostly incomplete.

Mexico would be a nightmare.

MExico doesn't even want unification either

Best case scenario, we could maybe make a semi-American buffer state out of Northern Mexico (it would be an independent country, just with a lot of American influence), but it would really just be confined to Baja and Monterrey.

[Arpeggian Republic]

Where I was going with idea was simply trying to defuse the Cold civil wAr in America right now
But now I dont know. You would think the greatest country to have ever existed would be stronger than this... we are so polarized now I'm just scared all the time that someone will make a wrong move and suddenly this Cold civil war turns hot

[The of Japan]

Tbf who cares about the South in this regard? They bitch about EVERYTHING!

Wrong South.

Maybe a union between US and Canada might work, but currently only Saskatchewan wants it

[Ifreann]

Infrastructure caused by money being thrown at the wrong things, not a lack of funds.

Why should American taxpayers subsidize another country?

I think the idea is that Mexico wouldn't be another country, they'd be the same country.

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Free trade, free movement, single set of government regulations, single currency.

Revolts, Rise in Nationalism, Easier Terrorism, Easier movement of Illegal goods, Polish People invading the UK, English invading Poland


You don't want any of those things to happen, it won't end well.

We must be living in different EUs.

[The of Japan]

MExico doesn't even want unification either

Best case scenario, we could maybe make a semi-American buffer state out of Northern Mexico (it would be an independent country, just with a lot of American influence), but it would really just be confined to Baja and Monterrey.

Monterrey is pretty far south of border

[Arpeggian Republic]

German reunification was between two countries that even spoke the same language, had the same ethnic core, the same history, and several strong family ties, and it was still expensive, difficult, and mostly incomplete.

Mexico would be a nightmare.

MExico doesn't even want unification either

I thought Mexico loved us (before the Oompa Loompa in cheif)

[The of Japan]

Where I was going with idea was simply trying to defuse the Cold civil wAr in America right now
But now I dont know. You would think the greatest country to have ever existed would be stronger than this... we are so polarized now I'm just scared all the time that someone will make a wrong move and suddenly this Cold civil war turns hot

Mexico wouldn't accept

[Valrifell]

Infrastructure caused by money being thrown at the wrong things, not a lack of funds.

Why should American taxpayers subsidize another country?

I'm referring to the infrastructure crisis in our own country. Cracked roadways, crumbling bridges, etc. etc.

[Big Jim P]

MExico doesn't even want unification either

I thought Mexico loved us (before the Oompa Loompa in cheif)

They loved our money being sent back maybe.