North American Unification

[Big Jim P]

[joking]Reunite with traitors to the crown? Never! God save the Queen! Keep your hands off my Poutine/hockey! [/joking]

But seriously, I don't think this could work. Things are fine the way they are now, even with an complete asshole currently in charge of the white house.

Also, how would government work? How would a place that still has a monarchy be cool with a president? How would electrons work?

*Canadian jokes aside*

I have been to Canada, and I like a good deal of their (your?) culture, and I admire the people.

I can say the same for Mexico with the exception that I have never visited.

[Arpeggian Republic]

[joking]Reunite with traitors to the crown? Never! God save the Queen! Keep your hands off my Poutine/hockey! [/joking]

But seriously, I don't think this could work. Things are fine the way they are now, even with an complete asshole currently in charge of the white house.

Also, how would government work? How would a place that still has a monarchy be cool with a president? How would electrons work?

I've outlined that in my constitution :b

As far as motivation... I don't know if they would be motivated to join us

[Wanderjar]

[joking]Reunite with traitors to the crown? Never! God save the Queen! Keep your hands off my Poutine/hockey! [/joking]

But seriously, I don't think this could work. Things are fine the way they are now, even with an complete asshole currently in charge of the white house.

Also, how would government work? How would a place that still has a monarchy be cool with a president? How would electrons work?

We wouldn't have to worry about things like this if you just let us liberate you in 1812.

To be fair, it wasn't so much Canada as the corps of professional British forces garrisoned there, squaring off against a poorly organized and undertrained American militia. If one thing was learned from the War of 1812 it was that America's previous aversion to a professional military was a poor choice from a security perspective

[House of Judah]

If we keep the political subdivisions of Canada and Mexico intact, the they could very well benefit from the American electoral College system.

Ontario would be overpowered though with like 200 electoral votes I think

Ontario has a third the population of California. They won't be over powered. Such a system could potentially tip things more in favor of the NPVIC if the Canadian and Mexican states were amenable to it.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

If we keep the political subdivisions of Canada and Mexico intact, the they could very well benefit from the American electoral College system.

Ontario would be overpowered though with like 200 electoral votes I think

Ontario wouldn't have many more electoral votes than Illinois.
In order to get two hundred electoral votes its' population would need to be ten times larger.

[Gloriana Americana]

We wouldn't have to worry about things like this if you just let us liberate you in 1812.

To be fair, it wasn't so much Canada as the corps of professional British forces garrisoned there, squaring off against a poorly organized and undertrained American militia. If one thing was learned from the War of 1812 it was that America's previous aversion to a professional military was a poor choice from a security perspective

Apparently not so poorly trained we couldn't keep them from capturing the strategic city of Baltimore.

Because, you know, we did. Brits and Canucks tend to forget that while they were burning an empty building in symbolism, a high value target remained out of their grasp.

[Ifreann]

Would anyone benefit from this? Not including people whose only concern is what political maps look like.

Politically we'd have a three party system, as Mexico is more centrist, Canada is more liberal, and America, at I think, is more conservative, so it depends.

That would depend more on the system of government of this new nation than on the averaged out political leanings of the populations.

With all the money we'd generate, perhaps we could help the poor and impoverished.

The governments of Canada, the US, and Mexico already collect tax revenue and spend it on social welfare programs. Therefore, that a hypothetical North American government would also spend money on social welfare isn't really a benefit.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

As an American, I would support Annexation of Alberta, British Columbia, and Yukon to make the US contiguous -Hawaii but the rest of Canada and all the Mexican shit is useless.

So, Alberta's oil, the prairie provinces wheat, the good farming land plus lakes of Ontario, the culture of Quebec, the fishing of the Newfoundland and Labrador and, the beauty of the northern territories are "Useless"?

[joking]Reunite with traitors to the crown? Never! God save the Queen! Keep your hands off my Poutine/hockey! [/joking]

But seriously, I don't think this could work. Things are fine the way they are now, even with an complete asshole currently in charge of the white house.

Also, how would government work? How would a place that still has a monarchy be cool with a president? How would electrons work?

I've outlined that in my constitution :b

As far as motivation... I don't know if they would be motivated to join us

We are too busy kicking your butt at hockey.

[The Sauganash Union]

America and Canada, possibly.

Any sort of unification with Mexico? Hell no.

[Valrifell]

[joking]Reunite with traitors to the crown? Never! God save the Queen! Keep your hands off my Poutine/hockey! [/joking]

But seriously, I don't think this could work. Things are fine the way they are now, even with an complete asshole currently in charge of the white house.

Also, how would government work? How would a place that still has a monarchy be cool with a president? How would electrons work?

I've outlined that in my constitution :b

As far as motivation... I don't know if they would be motivated to join us

What makes you think that they're joining us and the United States isn't going to be partitioned in a joint Mexican-Canadian invasion?

[Arkeyana]

It might work, however a long and ardous process of overhauling each respective nation's constitution to accommodate the other two before merging would have to happen.

[The Sauganash Union]

As an American, I would support Annexation of Alberta, British Columbia, and Yukon to make the US contiguous -Hawaii but the rest of Canada and all the Mexican shit is useless.

So, Alberta's oil, the prairie provinces wheat, the good farming land plus lakes of Ontario, the culture of Quebec, the fishing of the Newfoundland and Labrador and, the beauty of the northern territories are "Useless"?

>culture of Quebec

We have enough racist yokels as it is. We don't need French-speaking ones.

[Ethel mermania]

Would anyone benefit from this? Not including people whose only concern is what political maps look like.

Free trade, free movement, single set of goverment regulations, single currency. All the reasons one would support a unified earth government or a larger roLe for the EU.

[Valrifell]

America and Canada, possibly.

Any sort of unification with Mexico? Hell no.

But that would totally solve the illegal immigration issue!

[The United Colonies of Earth]

America and Canada, possibly.

Any sort of unification with Mexico? Hell no.

And here I thought all we needed to do was proselytize some kind of Germanic Protestant sect to them.

[Big Jim P]

To be fair, it wasn't so much Canada as the corps of professional British forces garrisoned there, squaring off against a poorly organized and undertrained American militia. If one thing was learned from the War of 1812 it was that America's previous aversion to a professional military was a poor choice from a security perspective

Apparently not so poorly trained we couldn't keep them from capturing the strategic city of Baltimore.

Because, you know, we did. Brits and Canucks tend to forget that while they were burning an empty building in symbolism, a high value target remained out of their grasp.

Burning the White House was a pretty epic "fuck you" though. We need a war of vengeance!

[The of Japan]

If we keep the political subdivisions of Canada and Mexico intact, the they could very well benefit from the American electoral College system.

Ontario would be overpowered though with like 200 electoral votes I think

Ontario has less people than new York so not quite

[The Sauganash Union]

Would anyone benefit from this? Not including people whose only concern is what political maps look like.

Politically we'd have a three party system, as Mexico is more centrist, Canada is more liberal, and America, at I think, is more conservative, so it depends. With all the money we'd generate, perhaps we could help the poor and impoverished.

You mean Americans and Canadians are going to be subsidizing the peasant masses of Mexico.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

America and Canada, possibly.

Any sort of unification with Mexico? Hell no.

But that would totally solve the illegal immigration issue!

Central Americans from crime-ridden corrupt hellholes would still want in, so we'd have to unify with those next

[Valrifell]

Apparently not so poorly trained we couldn't keep them from capturing the strategic city of Baltimore.

Because, you know, we did. Brits and Canucks tend to forget that while they were burning an empty building in symbolism, a high value target remained out of their grasp.

Burning the White House was a pretty epic "fuck you" though. We need a war of vengeance!

Burn the ... wherever the Canadian PM lives!

[The Sauganash Union]

America and Canada, possibly.

Any sort of unification with Mexico? Hell no.

And here I thought all we needed to do was proselytize some kind of Germanic Protestant sect to them.

Some people can't even be redeemed by Germanic Protestantism. That's the legacy of Spain for ya.

[The Sauganash Union]

America and Canada, possibly.

Any sort of unification with Mexico? Hell no.

But that would totally solve the illegal immigration issue!

No it wouldn't. It was just make all of Mexico's problems even more of an American problem, and also it wouldn't eliminate illegal immigration from Asia or Central America.

[Valrifell]

But that would totally solve the illegal immigration issue!

Central Americans from crime-ridden corrupt hellholes would still want in, so we'd have to unify with those next

If this North American Union doesn't stretch all the way to the Panama Canal, then I'm demanding my money back.

[Grinning Dragon]

It might work, however a long and arduous process of overhauling each respective nation's constitution to accommodate the other two before merging would have to happen.

It would be easier if the other two countries adopted the US Constitution and just became states 51-55 or so.

[Big Jim P]

Burning the White House was a pretty epic "fuck you" though. We need a war of vengeance!

Burn the ... wherever the Canadian PM lives!

Well, if they put a few snipers around we won't get within 2,000 meters.