North American Unification

[The of Japan]

North America also covers Central America.

And why would Canada and Mexico (especially Canada, who is doing better in many respects) want to be annexed by the United States?

Mexico more than Canada actually in the not wanting to be part of US shindig.

[Gyrenaica]

But Where would the illegal Mexicans currently residing in the USA be deported back to.

[Valrifell]

But Where would the illegal Mexicans currently residing in the USA be deported back to.

That's the beauty, it becomes a non-issue since they wouldn't be illegal immigrants anymore!

[Michael Johnathan]

But Where would the illegal Mexicans currently residing in the USA be deported back to.

Palestine. It's a paradise on earth there. Literally the land of milk and honey.

[Hurdergaryp]

I support annexation under Canada.

Texas will probably secede once more, then. It's pretty much an integral part of Texan history.

[Krasny-Volny]

I can't see this happening, as both Americans and Mexicans are very proud of, and protective of, their independence. The dubious economic advantages of uniting politically with Canada are outweighed by national pride.

Plus the political systems of the three countries are simply irreconcilable.

That being said, sometimes I mistake people from the far north of the US for Canadians. They seem really similar to Anglophone Canadians in terms of culture and to a lesser extent politics.

[Krasny-Volny]

And why would Canada and Mexico (especially Canada, who is doing better in many respects) want to be annexed by the United States?

Last I checked Canada's economy and global political influence was still dwarfed by that of the US.

[Thercia]

North America also covers Central America.

And why would Canada and Mexico (especially Canada, who is doing better in many respects) want to be annexed by the United States?

Canada is basically America Jr. as it is. Their the mild-mannered little brother that dutifully puts away at work but isn't really remembered for anything but their ambitions and powerful brother.

We should start hitting them up for tribute in all honesty.

[Thercia]

I'd like to see the complete opposite: a massive break-up of North America on par with that of Europe, preserving the local intricacies of each nation, and more importantly, giving people more of a choice in how their government is run. So we could have a liberal, techie Californian Republic, a conservative Republic of Jefferson north of it, a libertarian Republic of New Hampshire, etc.

Edit: >when you post in a thread and then forget about it

This is an excellent method for ensuring Chinese dominance of the world.

[Neanderthaland]

I support annexation under Canada.

Texas will probably secede once more, then. It's pretty much an integral part of Texan history.

I'll try to contain my woe.

[Sovaal]

I think if USA dissolved completely, Mexico and Canada could split it and theoretically unify to the point of 2 nations instead of 3, but 1 combined state? I'd say impossible. At the end of every single US election (that I recall) either california or Texas have threatened with secession (depending on which party won) and frankly, I'd be surprised if there werent major movements for dismantling the country into 5 to 10 state chunks. That's just my opinion though

Hah, the native populations would never allow it.

[Aethrys]

No. The US would not benefit from millions of rabidly conservative Catholic voters or a new southern region full of heavily armed insurgents that have effectively neutralized the local government.

Then there's the Canadians with their weird brand of European style self hatred and out of control nanny state.

Best to keep the extremists on the other side of the borders where they belong.

[New haven america]

No. The US would not benefit from millions of rabidly conservative Catholic voters or a new southern region full of heavily armed insurgents that have effectively neutralized the local government.

Then there's the Canadians with their weird brand of European style self hatred and out of control nanny state.

Best to keep the extremists on the other side of the borders where they belong.

Well, if we're talking about extremist views then you seem to have forgotten about America's fetishization of capitalism and encouragement of ignorance.

[The East Marches II]

No. The US would not benefit from millions of rabidly conservative Catholic voters or a new southern region full of heavily armed insurgents that have effectively neutralized the local government.

Then there's the Canadians with their weird brand of European style self hatred and out of control nanny state.

Best to keep the extremists on the other side of the borders where they belong.

Well, if we're talking about extremist views then you seem to have forgotten about America's fetishization of capitalism and encouragement of ignorance.

Don't forget violence and a zero sum worldview!

It feels good to be a gangster

[Crylante]

Can it be socialist?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Can it be socialist?

No.

[Hurdergaryp]

Can it be socialist?

No.

Since it is a highly hypothetical assumption, I honestly do not see why it couldn't be the People's Democratic Federal Republic of America. PDFRA has a nice ring to it.

[Pasong Tirad]

I'd like to see the complete opposite: a massive break-up of North America on par with that of Europe, preserving the local intricacies of each nation, and more importantly, giving people more of a choice in how their government is run. So we could have a liberal, techie Californian Republic, a conservative Republic of Jefferson north of it, a libertarian Republic of New Hampshire, etc.

Edit: >when you post in a thread and then forget about it

This is an excellent method for ensuring Chinese dominance of the world.

Oh don't worry, China will break up too. The Uyghurs, Mongolians, Tibetans and Hong Kongers will all be telling the Central Committee to fuck off.

Wouldn't mind a more regionalist America, though.

[Republican Corentia]

https://www.marxists.org/reference/arch ... 13/03a.htm

Maybe if a few catastrophic events happened to warrant such a move to integrate, maybe. But not as one unified "nation" necessarily.

[New haven america]

No.

Since it is a highly hypothetical assumption, I honestly do not see why it couldn't be the People's Democratic Federal Republic of America. PDFRA has a nice ring to it.

And it's a much better acronym compared to the USSR or PRC, tbh.

[Sovaal]

No.

Since it is a highly hypothetical assumption, I honestly do not see why it couldn't be the People's Democratic Federal Republic of America. PDFRA has a nice ring to it.

Do you want it to be a totalitarian police state?

[Arkinesia]

No. The US would not benefit from millions of rabidly conservative Catholic voters or a new southern region full of heavily armed insurgents that have effectively neutralized the local government.

Then there's the Canadians with their weird brand of European style self hatred and out of control nanny state.

Best to keep the extremists on the other side of the borders where they belong.

Well, if we're talking about extremist views then you seem to have forgotten about America's fetishization of capitalism and encouragement of ignorance.

Fetishization of capitalism without understanding what capitalism even is, more like, as the US is choked with arcane bureaucratic regulations in spite of a general lack of regulators.

[Hurdergaryp]

Since it is a highly hypothetical assumption, I honestly do not see why it couldn't be the People's Democratic Federal Republic of America. PDFRA has a nice ring to it.

Do you want it to be a totalitarian police state?

Nah, that's been done. Let's go for a more stable version of Tito's Yugoslavia.

[Sovaal]

Do you want it to be a totalitarian police state?

Nah, that's been done. Let's go for a more stable version of Tito's Yugoslavia.

Until American Tito dies.

At least make him god emperor.