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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:50 am

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TrustMe wrote:It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants

Yeah only men should play lead roles. How dare you show women leaders in television too!

...Welp. Looks like you're still going, even though all the tires on your car have popped. Impressive. Need I remind you that nobody has been saying females shouldn't be leads in television, and this entire rant has been mostly unproductive? Excellent. Now go change your tires and maybe try again.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:05 am

Luminesa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yeah only men should play lead roles. How dare you show women leaders in television too!

...Welp. Looks like you're still going, even though all the tires on your car have popped. Impressive. Need I remind you that nobody has been saying females shouldn't be leads in television, and this entire rant has been mostly unproductive? Excellent. Now go change your tires and maybe try again.

I wasn't being serious in my post. it was a joke.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:08 am

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Luminesa wrote:...Welp. Looks like you're still going, even though all the tires on your car have popped. Impressive. Need I remind you that nobody has been saying females shouldn't be leads in television, and this entire rant has been mostly unproductive? Excellent. Now go change your tires and maybe try again.

I wasn't being serious in my post. it was a joke.


Ironically, most people "whining" about the Doctor being female now are joking as well.
The women condemning them with brimstone and pitchforks however are not. Even though they are fighting windmills ;)
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Postby Nexus of All Realities » Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:49 am

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TrustMe wrote:It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants


The Sisterhood of the Travelling what now?

An inane movie.
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Postby Nexus of All Realities » Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:57 am

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[*]Dr. Strange1 (2016 movie)
[*]Thor (2015 comic book)
[*]Ms. Marvel2 (2014 comic book)
[*]Captain American3 (2014 comic book)


The Feminist Frequency Kickstarter campaign is the first case I can think of where feminist outrage was used very effectively as a marketing tool to make money for someone. Many of the other cases... well, it's hard to prove that Marvel was trying to use feminist outrage to sell comics when they launched what was widely known as She-Thor. That said, it's a viral technique with a track record of success in drawing publicity, which is exactly what clever marketers want to use. Viral techniques have a small initial outlay, and if they "catch," they're incredibly effective marketing in terms of dollars spent to publicity gained.


Off-topic, but Marvel jumped the shark two decades ago anyway. They gave into certain agendas that long ago and the comic issues side of their company sucks now.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:40 pm

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TrustMe wrote:It's completely unnecessary Plus Doctor Who is a male role, trying to put a woman into a part that has been historically played by men is not going to work

I mean how would you react if there was a male version of The Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants

They genderswapped in the new Battlestar Galactica series and it was just fine, thanks.

People were actually pretty unhappy about that, especially Starbuck's original actor.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:04 pm

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Katganistan wrote:They genderswapped in the new Battlestar Galactica series and it was just fine, thanks.

People were actually pretty unhappy about that, especially Starbuck's original actor.


butbut.. now they could make the Starbuck and Starbuck at Starbucks pic...
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Postby The Horror Channel » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:32 pm

When the ratings tank even harder, who gets the blame?

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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:44 pm

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Luminesa wrote:...Welp. Looks like you're still going, even though all the tires on your car have popped. Impressive. Need I remind you that nobody has been saying females shouldn't be leads in television, and this entire rant has been mostly unproductive? Excellent. Now go change your tires and maybe try again.

I wasn't being serious in my post. it was a joke.

A rather-badly-executed one. And not really funny.
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Postby Luminesa » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:47 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I wasn't being serious in my post. it was a joke.


Ironically, most people "whining" about the Doctor being female now are joking as well.
The women condemning them with brimstone and pitchforks however are not. Even though they are fighting windmills ;)

Oh come on, that was totally a monster right there. He just went easy on me.

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DON'T YOU LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT. I KNOW WHAT I SAW.

In all honesty, I merely thought it was a dumb joke. Then again, when the entire thread is talking about how "revolutionary" this is, and was bashing everyone who thought it was simply "okay" or "whatever", and then suddenly switches to joking about it, that switch was kinda hard for me to spot.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 25, 2017 3:12 am

The Horror Channel wrote:When the ratings tank even harder, who gets the blame?


The ratings are tanking? :eyebrow:
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Postby Anywhere Else But Here » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:06 am

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The Horror Channel wrote:When the ratings tank even harder, who gets the blame?


The ratings are tanking? :eyebrow:

Yes. Ratings last season were the lowest they've ever been. The last Christmas Special, which usually sees more viewers than its accompanying series, had viewing figures that would have been considered average for any episode in earlier series. The rest of the series was even lower, with UK viewing figures not even reaching 5m for some episodes.

I don't agree with the Horror Channel's assertion that ratings will tank with Whittaker (in fact, I expect they'll pick up for a little while at least), but making snarky remarks about facts you haven't bothered to investigate and overusing your favourite smiley doesn't make you look good.

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Postby Purpelia » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:17 am

As someone who really hates changes to existing characters, especially for the sake of diversity, I have to say that I find it funny that the one time people are genuinely outraged it's about the one single show in existence where the actual cannon means it's ok and I don't care.

Some times you just can't win. /
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Postby Alvecia » Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:57 am

Anywhere Else But Here wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
The ratings are tanking? :eyebrow:

Yes. Ratings last season were the lowest they've ever been. The last Christmas Special, which usually sees more viewers than its accompanying series, had viewing figures that would have been considered average for any episode in earlier series. The rest of the series was even lower, with UK viewing figures not even reaching 5m for some episodes.

I don't agree with the Horror Channel's assertion that ratings will tank with Whittaker (in fact, I expect they'll pick up for a little while at least), but making snarky remarks about facts you haven't bothered to investigate and overusing your favourite smiley doesn't make you look good.

Lowest of New Who. But they've been on something of a steady decline since ~season 4

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Postby Skylus » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:46 am

I already like Jodi.

Still waiting for the regen scene

Oh, and I finally saw 12's entrance.

That was great.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:15 am

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Skylus wrote:I already like Jodi.

Still waiting for the regen scene

Oh, and I finally saw 12's entrance.

That was great.


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(I meant the regen scene into 12.
From End of Time part 2)
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San Lumen wrote:So we finally have it one of the most anticipated casting reveals of all time.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

For the first time in the history of the the long running science fiction series Doctor Who has its first female lead. Jodie Whittaker. It has upset some people calling it a gimmick or appeal to Political Correctness because the doctor has always been a man. Its been established in the lore of the show that Time Lords can change race and gender.

I have no problem with the casting and think its a bold move and huge moment for television. To call it a gimmick or appeal to PC is sexist. I think people are afraid of change.

What's your take NSG on this history making moment?

I think the negative reaction to that is absolutely hilarious. Seriously, I saw people talking about how "freedom of expression" is important and said that because of that the Doctor Who team must not express their ideology because it's "Feminism". I think they never realized that "freedom of expression" also means freedom to those who think the opposite of you, hypocrites.
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Skylus wrote:(I meant the regen scene into 12.
From End of Time part 2)


That's 11.
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San Lumen wrote:So we finally have it one of the most anticipated casting reveals of all time.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

For the first time in the history of the the long running science fiction series Doctor Who has its first female lead. Jodie Whittaker. It has upset some people calling it a gimmick or appeal to Political Correctness because the doctor has always been a man. Its been established in the lore of the show that Time Lords can change race and gender.

I have no problem with the casting and think its a bold move and huge moment for television. To call it a gimmick or appeal to PC is sexist. I think people are afraid of change.

What's your take NSG on this history making moment?


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From End of Time part 2)


That's 11.


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San Lumen wrote:So we finally have it one of the most anticipated casting reveals of all time.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40624288

For the first time in the history of the the long running science fiction series Doctor Who has its first female lead. Jodie Whittaker. It has upset some people calling it a gimmick or appeal to Political Correctness because the doctor has always been a man. Its been established in the lore of the show that Time Lords can change race and gender.

I have no problem with the casting and think its a bold move and huge moment for television. To call it a gimmick or appeal to PC is sexist. I think people are afraid of change.

What's your take NSG on this history making moment?


Doctor Who? More like Doctor who cares?

If you dont watch the show why are you commenting?
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:44 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Doctor Who? More like Doctor who cares?

If you dont watch the show why are you commenting?


My roommate and a couple of friends of mine watch the show. It's an automatic response.
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