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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:54 pm

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How is this a bad move? I think Whittaker's a great pic, especially now that I've had a chance to look up some of her work on YouTube.


I was referring to Capaldi having been the doctor and said this as in the woman should have been done sooner to prevent a bad one from coming in. You misunderstood my post entirely.


I did. I think what you actually said is also wrong -- I think Capaldi may have been the best Doctor of them all.
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Postby New Grestin » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:55 pm

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New Grestin wrote:That's neat, I guess. The show's not really my cup of tea, but more power to the people that enjoy it.

Of course, there's going to be the crowd that calls this PC pandering, and even if it is, It's still a woman taking on one of the most important roles in British television.

And that's pretty cool if you ask me.

I think its beyond awesome. Any time a iconic role goes to someone non white the SJW meme or PC pandering nonsense comes up. Its really so childish.

I get why it happens. You get stuck in a particular mindset for long enough that even something as simple as this can become part of that confirmation bias.

Some people have had such a slant against SJW and politically correct culture for so long that they start seeing everything as part of that problem.

Maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but that seems like what happens.
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:56 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I think its beyond awesome. Any time a iconic role goes to someone non white the SJW meme or PC pandering nonsense comes up. Its really so childish.

I get why it happens. You get stuck in a particular mindset for long enough that even something as simple as this can become part of that confirmation bias.

Some people have had such a slant against SJW and politically correct culture for so long that they start seeing everything as part of that problem.

Maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but that seems like what happens.


That's probably a pretty good assessment, yeah.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:58 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I think its beyond awesome. Any time a iconic role goes to someone non white the SJW meme or PC pandering nonsense comes up. Its really so childish.

I get why it happens. You get stuck in a particular mindset for long enough that even something as simple as this can become part of that confirmation bias.

Some people have had such a slant against SJW and politically correct culture for so long that they start seeing everything as part of that problem.

Maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but that seems like what happens.

I don't disagree with you. I think your absolutely right.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:04 pm

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Yes Im Biop wrote:As someone who has watched a grand total of 3 episodes over the last 21 years, Neat. It's been fun seeing the whiny bitches come screaming from the woodwork on FB about and I quote "Male Erasure"

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Postby Giovenith » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:13 pm

New Grestin wrote:That's neat, I guess. The show's not really my cup of tea, but more power to the people that enjoy it.

Of course, there's going to be the crowd that calls this PC pandering, and even if it is, It's still a woman taking on one of the most important roles in British television.

And that's pretty cool if you ask me.


I don't deny that PC pandering can happen and it's often terrible, but it makes me wonder exactly what kind of scenario they imagine where such an action wouldn't be PC pandering. The conversation around political correctness in the modern era is a valuable one, but it's often used and abused by whiny people who just hate change or new things.
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Postby Cedoria » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:14 pm

If she was the best actress for the job. I don't care.

I don't watch the show, so I won't be the one judging whether she is any good.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:27 pm

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New Grestin wrote:That's neat, I guess. The show's not really my cup of tea, but more power to the people that enjoy it.

Of course, there's going to be the crowd that calls this PC pandering, and even if it is, It's still a woman taking on one of the most important roles in British television.

And that's pretty cool if you ask me.


I don't deny that PC pandering can happen and it's often terrible, but it makes me wonder exactly what kind of scenario they imagine where such an action wouldn't be PC pandering. The conversation around political correctness in the modern era is a valuable one, but it's often used and abused by whiny people who just hate change or new things.

I do agree that sometimes PC can be pandering but this is not one of them.

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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:32 pm

Neat. Nice touch having her take over on the Christmas special, everyone watches those
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If nobody cares why are so many people fucked off about it? Why are so many people whinging and whining and carrying on like they just lost their favourite toy?



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Postby Bakery Hill » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:43 pm

I lost interest with Doctor Who a few years ago, when they moved to this wholesome quirky power of love uwu bullshit. I thought Capaldi could actually take it back to the darker and more gritty mood it had when I was a younger, unfortunately he didn't seem to do that. I doubt things will improve with Whitaker, I doubt they'd improve with anyone. What they really need is to purge the writing team.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:02 am

Never watched it and don't have an interest in it, but that's neat I guess.
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Postby M00se » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:08 am

Kinda wanting to reserve judgement until we've seen her in the part, but I still can't shake the feeling that this was in some way pandering to PC. Especially disappointing given how much talk there had already been about there being a female doctor.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:29 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:So does she look good (this is really the key of the issue)?


Because apparently the only reason females exist is to be eye candy.
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Postby Ctelixii » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:36 am

Bakery Hill wrote:I lost interest with Doctor Who a few years ago, when they moved to this wholesome quirky power of love uwu bullshit. I thought Capaldi could actually take it back to the darker and more gritty mood it had when I was a younger, unfortunately he didn't seem to do that. I doubt things will improve with Whitaker, I doubt they'd improve with anyone. What they really need is to purge the writing team.

Have you watched Season 10? Aich, I think that's the kind of thing you're looking for. Episode 11 especially... Wow.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:38 am

Part of me is against on the reasoning of this being a gender swap along the lines of instead of Superman we will now have Superwoman.

Yet, the story line does allow for it.

I will wait and see. I didn't like Matt Smith at first but he grew on me. Maybe the same for the new one.....
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Postby Yortium Allanstan » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:41 am

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San Lumen wrote:Well its a historic moment for television. Im pretty excited about it. Its about time.

How so, tho? The main character of a B series is going to be female rather than male. What's the big deal? It's not like it's the first time it has happened and it apparently make sense canon-wise. So what is there to be so excited about?


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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:46 am

Blah blah PC pandering, series ruined, etc. etc.

Is what I would say...but...dunno about "classic" Who but the revived series has been chock full of queer undertones, so anyone who's offended probably hasn't been watching for a while. And regenerations not always being the same sex has been canon for some time.

That said, I stopped watching the last series because it had plainly run out of ideas and the stories just weren't very interesting. I liked Capaldi's doctor as a character, but he was a huge missed opportunity - he didn't get very many good episodes and they were pitifully "safe" with his limits - "oh no, he's a bit brusque and mean sometimes, how dark, how edgy". Companion was also initially interesting, then just...wasn't. The new writers will have to do much better.

When it's back I'll give it a couple of episodes.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jul 17, 2017 12:57 am

Honestly once they introduced that as a thing that could happen it became weird that it hasn't yet.
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Postby The East Marches II » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:15 am

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I was referring to Capaldi having been the doctor and said this as in the woman should have been done sooner to prevent a bad one from coming in. You misunderstood my post entirely.


I did. I think what you actually said is also wrong -- I think Capaldi may have been the best Doctor of them all.


He was far better on the Musketeers and that is also a superior show. Dr. Who a shit!

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Postby Calladan » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:22 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40626224

Apparently the casting is a reason for some people to stop watching.

And a female Doctor was all too much for life-long fan Wendy Roberts who posted: "No disrespect to the actress chosen but the producers have brought my Dr Who history and memories to an abrupt end."


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Postby New haven america » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:29 am

Calladan wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40626224

Apparently the casting is a reason for some people to stop watching.

And a female Doctor was all too much for life-long fan Wendy Roberts who posted: "No disrespect to the actress chosen but the producers have brought my Dr Who history and memories to an abrupt end."


The mind boggles.

Apparently her memories don't include the fact that Time Lords can change their sex...
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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:30 am

Vassenor wrote:Because apparently the only reason females exist is to be eye candy.


I mean, it gives me more reason to watch...

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To actually give my thoughts. I couldn't care less, as long as it lines up with in-universe rules.

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