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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:13 pm

Victores wrote:I'd take the pandas. Then, I'll take a bank loan to buy up like 50 pandas. Start a panda zoo, and make back the 3 million in a year or two.

Can I sit in on that meeting for the loan for a Panda zoo?
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:14 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Sovaal wrote:I'm going to have to go with Pandas. What's the point of 3 million dollars if you can't by a Panda or see one in a zoo?


The point? Hookers and cocaine.

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Postby Oldenfranck » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:27 pm

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We can argue about a lot of things, but I would not kill nearly 2000 pandas for some money. I could not live with myself, and I believe that God would be angry with me. $3mil has value to me, but not 2000 pandas dead value to me. As for your last question, I have no idea what you are asking.


I was asking why you feel that God would be mad at you for the extinction of pandas, but not for the extinction of the mosquito, since both are of "his creation" as you say, therefore I asked you why one would have value over the other?

Don't get me wrong, I too would like to see the extinction of the mosquito.


Good point you made, I'm stumped on that one. I guess I just viewed it from my human perception that I thought that one is better than the other.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:39 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:I'd rather not go down in history at all then go down in history as "the schmuck who killed off pandas for a weak lottery jackpot."


How about 325 million, tax free?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:42 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
The point? Hookers and cocaine.

STD free and uncut?

Uncut will kill you, but clean and clean. Sure.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:43 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Sovaal wrote:STD free and uncut?

Uncut will kill you, but clean and clean. Sure.

Well I was planning on cutting the coke and then selling it, but eh, why not?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:45 pm

Sovaal wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:Uncut will kill you, but clean and clean. Sure.

Well I was planning on cutting the coke and then selling it, but eh, why not?


If you are going to kill off a species you may as well go in style.
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:48 pm

How much money annually is made through the display of captive pandas?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:58 pm

Wallenburg wrote:How much money annually is made through the display of captive pandas?

For China, quite a bit, considering that they're basically renting pandas to foreign zoos.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:00 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:How much money annually is made through the display of captive pandas?

For China, quite a bit, considering that they're basically renting pandas to foreign zoos.

Soin the name of stopping the commies we have to kill the pandas. Tis a sad day indeed.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:01 pm

Yes, they are a genetic dead end anyway.
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Postby New Southeast Asia » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:02 pm

I would accept the three million dollars, but not to support my own self, but to entirely donate it to help other species who are reaching extinction re-populate, or to fund the protection of animals in our forests simply to prevent humans hunting them to extinction, or something like this. I believe in a society where money does not mean anything, and shall not mean anything, and this money is going entirely for something that's not capitalistic (benefiting me). :)
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:04 pm

Sovaal wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:For China, quite a bit, considering that they're basically renting pandas to foreign zoos.

Soin the name of stopping the commies we have to kill the pandas. Tis a sad day indeed.

They charge us rent for the pandas, we spend money to breed them, then Mao takes the baby panda.

It's a fucking scam.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:09 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I'd rather not go down in history at all then go down in history as "the schmuck who killed off pandas for a weak lottery jackpot."


How about 325 million, tax free?

The only thing that changes is the snarky way I refer to the money. Now it's just "more money then he'll ever need"
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Postby Illiberalism » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:10 pm

No money is worth wiping out an entire species of animal, especially a creature as lovable as the Panda. Taking 3 million dollars for Panda extinction is despicable.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:16 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Soin the name of stopping the commies we have to kill the pandas. Tis a sad day indeed.

They charge us rent for the pandas, we spend money to breed them, then Mao takes the baby panda.

It's a fucking scam.

Hey, at least we aren't those peasants he scammed out of their food.
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Postby Trollgaard » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:16 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:Greetings,

Please consider the following hypothetical:

Would you take 3 million USD in exchange for allowing the immediate and irreversible extinction of pandas globally?

If you take the deal, you get 3 million USD immediately (no strings attached), however... all pandas will immediately vanish. If you don't take the deal, you get nothing but the pandas get to live happily ever after for now.

By all pandas, I mean ALL PANDAS. So all the variations of pandas, all of them whether they are in a zoo, kept illegally as a pet, or in the wilderness on any continent anywhere on the planet. If you take the deal, there will not be a SINGLE ONE of those black and white things on the face of the planet. I have no doubt that many tears will be shed.

Here are some facts about the ecological and economic value of pandas:

http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/endange ... ant_panda/
https://onekindplanet.org/animal/panda-giant/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_panda

What do you say? Would you take the deal?

I would. It sounds like a very good deal from a business point of view. I could do a lot with 3 million dollars; not quite enough to retire but it definitely gets me ahead. As for the pandas, it is most unfortunate, but I think the planet can survive.


Fuck no.

What kind of evil question is this?
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:19 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Greetings,

Please consider the following hypothetical:

Would you take 3 million USD in exchange for allowing the immediate and irreversible extinction of pandas globally?

If you take the deal, you get 3 million USD immediately (no strings attached), however... all pandas will immediately vanish. If you don't take the deal, you get nothing but the pandas get to live happily ever after for now.

By all pandas, I mean ALL PANDAS. So all the variations of pandas, all of them whether they are in a zoo, kept illegally as a pet, or in the wilderness on any continent anywhere on the planet. If you take the deal, there will not be a SINGLE ONE of those black and white things on the face of the planet. I have no doubt that many tears will be shed.

Here are some facts about the ecological and economic value of pandas:

http://wwf.panda.org/what_we_do/endange ... ant_panda/
https://onekindplanet.org/animal/panda-giant/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_panda

What do you say? Would you take the deal?

I would. It sounds like a very good deal from a business point of view. I could do a lot with 3 million dollars; not quite enough to retire but it definitely gets me ahead. As for the pandas, it is most unfortunate, but I think the planet can survive.


Fuck no.

What kind of evil question is this?

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Postby Libertypendence Park » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:24 pm

Charismatic megafauna like pandas are, generally speaking, a huge waste of time and money. Pandas serve as nothing more than the endearing face of environmental organizations who frankly spend 90% of donations on protecting the way more ecologically important white-tailed sea cucumber. I'll take the $3 million, thank you very much, and donate the lot of it to human charities.

And besides, if all pandas died, wouldn't that make people quite a bit more ecologically conscious than they are now?
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:25 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
How about 325 million, tax free?

The only thing that changes is the snarky way I refer to the money. Now it's just "more money then he'll ever need"

My needs are fairly expensive.
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Postby Minthas » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:26 pm

Pandas are useless, 3 million please.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:44 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
How about 325 million, tax free?

The only thing that changes is the snarky way I refer to the money. Now it's just "more money then he'll ever need"


That much cash I would take. With me it is a pricing issue.
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Postby Greed and Death » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:55 pm

So guys I just finished shooting all the Pandas. There are warrants for me in China, the US and with Interpol so I really need that 3 million to fight extradition from my current location. Please transfer to my account, and ignore any bounties from Green peace or PETA.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:57 pm

greed and death wrote:So guys I just finished shooting all the Pandas. There are warrants for me in China, the US and with Interpol so I really need that 3 million to fight extradition from my current location. Please transfer to my account, and ignore any bounties from Green peace or PETA.


Need a gofundme page pls, you forgot the link.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:58 pm

greed and death wrote:So guys I just finished shooting all the Pandas. There are warrants for me in China, the US and with Interpol so I really need that 3 million to fight extradition from my current location. Please transfer to my account, and ignore any bounties from Green peace or PETA.

Did you at least save some panda steaks? Also, thanks for single handedly putting Panda Express out of buisness.
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