Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[Republic of the Cristo]

If we wanna go worst case scenario here, countryside is infinitely more safe than cities:

Nuclear war, zombies, viruses, antifa - cities are gonna get hit infinitely harder by all of this than countrysides will.

Countryside is also harder to organize a proper defense.

You mean us hicks who own three guns a person ( minimum ), fish, hunt, and do manly stuff all day and who all know each other personally can't defend against a hoard of socially aware zombies?

Challenge accepted - we will meet at the ihop at dawn.

[Republic of the Cristo]

If we wanna go worst case scenario here, countryside is infinitely more safe than cities:

Nuclear war, zombies, viruses, antifa - cities are gonna get hit infinitely harder by all of this than countrysides will.

What does that have anything to do with, say, having your leg mangled with a circular saw by accident and needing ASAP attendance in a hospital?

It's not even the worst case scenario, it's something that realistically happens and you only have minutes for an ambulance to get to you before you bleed to death.

Also, you do realize that zombies or even antifa are not even a realistic threat at this point in time, right? Nuclear war? Pft. We're all going to die someday. As for viruses, sure, but also with better hospitals and treatment the chances of containing an epidemic rise.

Raccoon City and Hamburg, respectively, would like a word with...

[The East Marches II]

How many minutes drive?

20-40 minutes, depending on traffic.

It should only be about 10 minutes, but traffic on the freeway comes to a complete standstill multiple times a day, and the backroads are too dangerous to speed through. It could be worse I admit, but it's not as good as it is in most urban areas.

That's not bad at all. It's comparable to city transit times.

[Illiberalism]

I prefer culturally and racially homogenous societies. They are much more conducive to stability and cohesion.

[The East Marches II]

If we wanna go worst case scenario here, countryside is infinitely more safe than cities:

Nuclear war, zombies, viruses, antifa - cities are gonna get hit infinitely harder by all of this than countrysides will.

Countryside is also harder to organize a proper defense.

You need food and water not dependent on a grid. It will be a nightmare to get either if it's a Ron Paul tier happening.

[Genivaria]

I prefer culturally and racially homogenous societies. They are much more conducive to stability and cohesion.

Not really no.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

What does that have anything to do with, say, having your leg mangled with a circular saw by accident and needing ASAP attendance in a hospital?

It's not even the worst case scenario, it's something that realistically happens and you only have minutes for an ambulance to get to you before you bleed to death.

Also, you do realize that zombies or even antifa are not even a realistic threat at this point in time, right? Nuclear war? Pft. We're all going to die someday. As for viruses, sure, but also with better hospitals and treatment the chances of containing an epidemic rise.

Raccoon City and Hamburg, respectively, would like a word with...

Uhm... Resident Evil is not a documentary, despite the pretty cover.

[Republic of the Cristo]

Raccoon City and Hamburg, respectively, would like a word with...

Uhm... Resident Evil is not a documentary, despite the pretty cover.

It was a joke bro

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Uhm... Resident Evil is not a documentary, despite the pretty cover.

It was a joke bro

And that was a comeback. I wasn't really taking it seriously.

I guess I could use smilies more often? Dunno.

[Republic of the Cristo]

It was a joke bro

And that was a comeback. I wasn't really taking it seriously.

I guess I could use smilies more often? Dunno.

ooooooh...

[Vlamistaatti]

It's pretty grand for bettering variety in commodity choices. Food culture is one very easy example of cultural diversity making it all around better for all.

After that.. Hm..

[Illiberalism]

I prefer culturally and racially homogenous societies. They are much more conducive to stability and cohesion.

Not really no.

What do you mean? Ethnic diversity is shown to decrease the level of trust between members of society. It is also shown to decrease social cohesion and social interaction. This would contribute to an unstable society.


Sources:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... x/abstract

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 12015/full

[Genivaria]

Not really no.

What do you mean? Ethnic diversity is shown to decrease the level of trust between members of society. It is also shown to decrease social cohesion and social interaction. This would contribute to an unstable society.


Sources:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... x/abstract

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 12015/full

So you've linked to an article about a book.
Not anything IN the book but just showing the book.

Yeah that doesn't qualify as a source.

[Illiberalism]

What do you mean? Ethnic diversity is shown to decrease the level of trust between members of society. It is also shown to decrease social cohesion and social interaction. This would contribute to an unstable society.


Sources:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... x/abstract

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 12015/full

So you've linked to an article about a book.
Not anything IN the book but just showing the book.

Yeah that doesn't qualify as a source.

They definitely qualify as sources. They summarize the results found in works written by legitimate university professors. You can find their credentials in the links I provided.

[Greed and Death]

I've seen and heard comments recently here and elsewhere regarding changing demographics and areas becoming more multicultural and diverse is a bad thing. That somehow it undermines the concept of a nation or is somehow destructive to the culture of the country or province or city. Having a multicultural nation or city contributes much to a society.

Some have even go so far as to allege there is some conspiracy involved which is complete nonsense.

I fail to see how multiculturalism and diversity is a bad thing. Go to any major city and you find people from all backgrounds and different ethnic groups. Why is that a bad thing? My city and our neighboring city is one of the most diverse and multicultural in the world. Being diverse and multicultural has contributed a great deal to our culture and history. I love walking down the street and hearing other languages and seeing people from many different backgrounds and countries.

If someone comes to your country legally either as an immigrant or a refugee seeking a better life and opportunity why is that bad. In addition said person gets a work visa and a job and later becomes a citizen, why is that not a good thing?

Furthermore everyone is a descendent of immigrants in some way no matter how far back you go. Unless you are from certain areas in Asia or the Middle East or Africa you are technically an immigrant.

What's your thoughts NSG?

That is a great philosophy in theory. But in practice cultures can be so at odds that it is difficult to assimilate groups. For instance people in certain parts of the world come from cultures where it is ok to treat women as property, or OK to abuse women.

It became an issue where Norway had to offer a class on how women fit into society. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/20/worl ... women.html

If this has to be taught then maybe people from those areas of the world need to be scrutinized, and limited. Multiculturalism is not some magic word that solves all problems that arise when different cultures live next door to each other. I am not against immigration even from those areas of the world but we need to properly weigh and balance how many people from those areas of the world we can take.

[Gloriana Americana]

It's not that simple.

The U.S., for example, was a nation designed for diversity and multiculturalism. In our case, it's part of our identity, it defines us and our culture. It's essential to what makes America, America. Ours is intentionally unrestricted, as it is a beacon to the poor and the downtrodden to come from all over to make their own way, to be given a second chance at success. For the USA, multiculturalism is our culture.

Other countries tend to vary. Some are multicultural (Russia, the U.K., Ethiopia, India, and as much as they've tried not to be, the 'PRC') but have a central culture that goes hand-in-hand with the national identity, the rest being minorities. The amount of multiculturalism present in these nations varies greatly, some are more multicultural than other, but ultimately multiculturalism is still a reality for these nations and their identities, even if they aren't at the forefront of said identities.

Then there are other countries which are almost solely culturally homogeneous, with so few foreign influences at all that they retain a distinct identity. They tend to be very small and sparsely populated, naturally, and in this case multiculturalism and diversity can be a bad thing. Bringing in other cultures could very quickly cause an unbalance which could drown out and even destroy the native culture. This has happened before, albeit under difference circumstances. Most notably in the British Isles in which English culture and language had somewhat suppressed the native Celtic cultures and languages over the years. This has begun to reverse, thankfully, through the efforts of said native Celts and the fact the English-dominated United Kingdom no longer tries to Anglicize the parts of the Isles still under it's control.

Alternatively this could result in an entirely new cultural identity emerging (which has also happened before, many times), though it would require a certain degree of control of incoming migration. The ultimate goal should be to preserve all human cultures, as they are important to the overall identity of the human race and it's history. Multiculturalism has it's uses, make no mistake, but it's not something that be enforced everywhere and anywhere.

All things in moderation.

[Gerdarkvish]

So you've linked to an article about a book.
Not anything IN the book but just showing the book.

Yeah that doesn't qualify as a source.

They definitely qualify as sources. They summarize the results found in works written by legitimate university professors. You can find their credentials in the links I provided.

Well a unstable society is what they- want, it is called CULTURAL MARXISM. The white European male is there main enemy, so they will try to eliminate him via any means/ cultural Marxist ideal.

[Genivaria]

They definitely qualify as sources. They summarize the results found in works written by legitimate university professors. You can find their credentials in the links I provided.

Well a unstable society is what they- want, it is called CULTURAL MARXISM. The white European male is there main enemy, so they will try to eliminate him via any means/ cultural Marxist ideal.

I needed a laugh, thanks.
And no I'm no marxist, clearly I simply believe in freedom far more than you do.

[Christians AND for the Crusades and God]

Diversity is fine as long as they don't try enforcing quotas to put in X amount of minorities in jobs and houses. Multiculturalism is bad because it creates an "us vs them mentality" and creates tribalism while actively pushing that your race,sex and sexual orientation is who you are instead of actual personality.

[Bearhinoland]

Well a unstable society is what they- want, it is called CULTURAL MARXISM. The white European male is there main enemy, so they will try to eliminate him via any means/ cultural Marxist ideal.

I needed a laugh, thanks.
And no I'm no marxist, clearly I simply believe in freedom far more than you do.

OK LAUGH OUT LOUD, this question was quiet ridiculous to begin with, that is the question which this whole thread is about. far more than I do ? I beg to differ, I am a humanist, I like human rights.

[Torrocca]

They definitely qualify as sources. They summarize the results found in works written by legitimate university professors. You can find their credentials in the links I provided.

Well a unstable society is what they- want, it is called CULTURAL MARXISM. The white European male is there main enemy, so they will try to eliminate him via any means/ cultural Marxist ideal.

Cultural Marxism isn't even a thing except a term invented by the right to associate multiculturalism in America with that big, bad, scary ideology known as Communism, , to scare people away from the idea that multiculturalism is a good idea.

[Bearhinoland]

Well a unstable society is what they- want, it is called CULTURAL MARXISM. The white European male is there main enemy, so they will try to eliminate him via any means/ cultural Marxist ideal.

Cultural Marxism isn't even a thing except a term invented by the right to associate multiculturalism in America with that big, bad, scary ideology known as Communism, , to scare people away from the idea that multiculturalism is a good idea.

um no culture Marxism is communism and was invented in Europe/ Russia, by them.

[Torrocca]

Cultural Marxism isn't even a thing except a term invented by the right to associate multiculturalism in America with that big, bad, scary ideology known as Communism, , to scare people away from the idea that multiculturalism is a good idea.

um no culture Marxism is communism and was invented in Europe/ Russia, by them.

Uh, no, it's not. Marxism is an economic theory - that is, Communism. It has nothing to do with culture in any capacity.

[Genivaria]

Cultural Marxism isn't even a thing except a term invented by the right to associate multiculturalism in America with that big, bad, scary ideology known as Communism, , to scare people away from the idea that multiculturalism is a good idea.

um no culture Marxism is communism and was invented in Europe/ Russia, by them.

So you're accusing people on this thread who aren't even on the left of being communists?

[Bearhinoland]

um no culture Marxism is communism and was invented in Europe/ Russia, by them.

Uh, no, it's not. Marxism is an economic theory - that is, Communism. It has nothing to do with culture in any capacity.

are you trying to make a joke? what about it is economic theory?