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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:10 pm

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What if 90 contained varying concentrations of poison and they had passed through and rejected a number of other safe countries, becoming nothing more than economic migrants with a sad backstory?

Do you know what kind of vetting a refugee goes through? It already is extreme and would be nearly impossible to have it be more extreme than it already is.


Why are they our problem? If they aren't making us money, we can ship them to the EU ez pz.

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Postby Fostoria » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:10 pm

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Fostoria wrote:I don't think those metaphorical M&Ms are saving lives, buddy.

I must just be imagining that brutal civil war going on in Syria.


> That was caused by the people immigrating that don't want to finish it.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:11 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Do you know what kind of vetting a refugee goes through? It already is extreme and would be nearly impossible to have it be more extreme than it already is.


Why are they our problem? If they aren't making us money, we can ship them to the EU ez pz.

Making you money? What are you talking about?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:11 pm

The East Marches II wrote:It's exactly what they intended. They meant to give my region outsized and ultimate power.

Should've stayed the Northwest Territory tbh. Statehood should be reserved for land populated by citizens, not crops.
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Postby Fostoria » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:12 pm

Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commanders wrote:
San Lumen wrote:A similar argument has been used in the past for almost any group.

Donald Trump Jr's Skittles one. Same as saying "there are 100 gun owners, 1 of them will commit a violent crime – let's just ban all guns then." Ridiculous.


Different deal. Guns can also be used to defend yourself.

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Postby Cybernautica » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:12 pm

Fostoria wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:I must just be imagining that brutal civil war going on in Syria.


> That was caused by the people immigrating that don't want to finish it.

Only Anglos have the mental gymnastics to justify importing poisoned M&Ms in order to clear up the infiltrated and poisoned food factories.
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Postby Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commanders » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:12 pm

Fostoria wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:>> Disregarding the will of the majority because muh land

Probably not what the founders intended.


A lot of the inner-city people that voted for Hillary were misinformed by the MSM (aka Democratic propaganda machine).

The inner cities are 80–90% Democratic. Agreed that Hillary was an awful candidate and just didn't connect with the rural American – something Trump managed to do pretty well. Considering they are both old millionaires/billionaires who live in New York.
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:12 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:It's exactly what they intended. They meant to give my region outsized and ultimate power.

Should've stayed the Northwest Territory tbh. Statehood should be reserved for land populated by citizens, not crops.


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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:13 pm

Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commanders wrote:
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A lot of the inner-city people that voted for Hillary were misinformed by the MSM (aka Democratic propaganda machine).

The inner cities are 80–90% Democratic. Agreed that Hillary was an awful candidate and just didn't connect with the rural American – something Trump managed to do pretty well. Considering they are both old millionaires/billionaires who live in New York.

This is not a debate about the last election. Why must everything be threadjacked?

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Why are they our problem? If they aren't making us money, we can ship them to the EU ez pz.

Making you money? What are you talking about?


Economically productive and useful. Fill a role or job we didn't have enough of.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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What if 90 contained varying concentrations of poison and they had passed through and rejected a number of other safe countries, becoming nothing more than economic migrants with a sad backstory?

Do you know what kind of vetting a refugee goes through? It already is extreme and would be nearly impossible to have it be more extreme than it already is.


"Hmm...to get from where you've come from, must you have logically passed through multiple safe countries to get here? Yes? We will consider you like an ordinary economic migrant. Get in the queue, this will take some time, and unless you've got something specific to offer the answer will be 'no', and almost definitely if you're from an area that's a known hotspot for extremism."

Nearly impossible? Very easy, and very reasonable.
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Postby Fostoria » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:13 pm

Cybernautica wrote:
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> That was caused by the people immigrating that don't want to finish it.

Only Anglos have the mental gymnastics to justify importing poisoned M&Ms in order to clear up the infiltrated and poisoned food factories.


Please elaborate...

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:13 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Making you money? What are you talking about?


Economically productive and useful. Fill a role or job we didn't have enough of.

and what do you define as productive and useful?

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Postby Fostoria » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:14 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ever Victorious Iron Willed Commanders wrote:The inner cities are 80–90% Democratic. Agreed that Hillary was an awful candidate and just didn't connect with the rural American – something Trump managed to do pretty well. Considering they are both old millionaires/billionaires who live in New York.

This is not a debate about the last election. Why must everything be threadjacked?


Somebody brought up immigration affecting the democratic process.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:14 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Do you know what kind of vetting a refugee goes through? It already is extreme and would be nearly impossible to have it be more extreme than it already is.


"Hmm...to get from where you've come from, must you have logically passed through multiple safe countries to get here? Yes? We will consider you like an ordinary economic migrant. Get in the queue, this will take some time, and unless you've got something specific to offer the answer will be 'no'."

Nearly impossible? Very easy, and very reasonable.

So your against refugee status and political asylum?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:14 pm

Fostoria wrote:> That was caused by the people immigrating that don't want to finish it.

Yes, sure, that's how civil wars work. Everyone picks a side at the start. People don't try to live normal lives until the fact that their country is devolving into a warzone makes it impossible. There are no sieges of cities. Eastasia has always been our ally.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:14 pm

Anyway to elaborate.

Suppose you have two countries. Both Democratic but one is significantly larger than the other. The larger nation could seed the smaller nation with large numbers of immigrants over a series of years until these migrants control enough of the vote to successfully vote to be annexed into the larger nation.

Would you say this is a positive or productive thing for the smaller nation?
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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Economically productive and useful. Fill a role or job we didn't have enough of.

and what do you define as productive and useful?


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Postby Greater United American Republics » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:15 pm

Diversity and Multiculturalism are utterly despicable, loathsome & self-destructive concepts. Built not just around an inane set of concepts stemming from a psychotic application of nihilism & cultural self-hatred, but the most loathsome of "civic" tenants, and that is effectively Kantian Anti-Realism given new flesh through the hateful womb of post-modernism.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:15 pm

Fostoria wrote:
San Lumen wrote:This is not a debate about the last election. Why must everything be threadjacked?


Somebody brought up immigration affecting the democratic process.

Well then a certain polictal party needs to learn how to reach out to non whites instead of cheating to win.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Fostoria wrote:
Somebody brought up immigration affecting the democratic process.

Well then a certain polictal party needs to learn how to reach out to non whites instead of cheating to win.


They won just fine last election :^)

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:16 pm

Greater United American Republics wrote:Diversity and Multiculturalism are utterly despicable, loathsome & self-destructive concepts. Built not just around an inane set of concepts stemming from a psychotic application of nihilism & cultural self-hatred, but the most loathsome of "civic" tenants, and that is effectively Kantian Anti-Realism given new flesh through the hateful womb of post-modernism.

What in the world are you talking about?

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Postby Fostoria » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:16 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Fostoria wrote:> That was caused by the people immigrating that don't want to finish it.

Yes, sure, that's how civil wars work. Everyone picks a side at the start. People don't try to live normal lives until the fact that their country is devolving into a warzone makes it impossible. There are no sieges of cities. Eastasia has always been our ally.


The majority Sunni population rejecting the Shia leader in Syria was what started it for the most part.

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Postby Aelex » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:17 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:Breton and Occitan still exist. Regional identity still exists in France. All the murderous violence failed to completely erase regional differences in culture, rooted in local histories going back over a thousand years.

They do not. Barely two hundred thousands speak the first and not much more the second. No one speak them anymore. No one learn them anymore. They've been dying language for a century and they're now nearing their last breath.
The regional identities are pretty much inexistent, the main differences being a slight accent or peculiar pronunciation (here in Lyon by example "cahier" is pronounced "cahiè" while in the rest of France it is pronounced "cahié") and a couple of words of Patois that remained in the vocabulary locally. Arguing the contrary is both stupid and a proof of your lack of actual knowledge on the matter.

All of that assimilation was accomplished without any bloodshed but only through education, Jules Ferry and his hussards noirs having lead the first wave of it.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:17 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater United American Republics wrote:Diversity and Multiculturalism are utterly despicable, loathsome & self-destructive concepts. Built not just around an inane set of concepts stemming from a psychotic application of nihilism & cultural self-hatred, but the most loathsome of "civic" tenants, and that is effectively Kantian Anti-Realism given new flesh through the hateful womb of post-modernism.

What in the world are you talking about?


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