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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:02 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:See, that's the weird thing.
Iyanden said he supports Anglo-Saxon culture, but then he said he supports native culture, and the native culture of Britain is Celtic culture, so I'm confused.

Native culture of England isn't Celtic anymore as they didn't create England they are the native culture in Scotland and Wales

Should Catholic European Spaniards be expelled from Andalusia so that Muslim Arabs from North Africa can resettle it? After all, they lived there for like 700 years before Isabella and Ferdinand conquered it, and they took it from the Vandals, not the Spanish. :^)
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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:02 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Iyanden wrote:They are a country brutally occupied and colonised by communist China

Like Scotland by imperialist England? :P

They were given a referendum while Tibetans had 99 percent of their temples killed and around 1.2 million people murdered, all their resources taken and many of them are murdered or tortured for protesting or even just expressing their culture by the evil communist regime from China. The Scots aren't facing anything remotely genocidal

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:03 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Native culture of England isn't Celtic anymore as they didn't create England they are the native culture in Scotland and Wales

Should Catholic European Spaniards be expelled from Andalusia so that Muslim Arabs from North Africa can resettle it? After all, they lived there for like 700 years before Isabella and Ferdinand conquered it, and they took it from the Vandals, not the Spanish. :^)

They lost and they invaded Europe the Spanish won so they have the right to keep it

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:03 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Native culture of England isn't Celtic anymore as they didn't create England they are the native culture in Scotland and Wales

Should Catholic European Spaniards be expelled from Andalusia so that Muslim Arabs from North Africa can resettle it? After all, they lived there for like 700 years before Isabella and Ferdinand conquered it, and they took it from the Vandals, not the Spanish. :^)

Al-'Andalus!
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:04 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Native culture of England isn't Celtic anymore as they didn't create England they are the native culture in Scotland and Wales

Should Catholic European Spaniards be expelled from Andalusia so that Muslim Arabs from North Africa can resettle it? After all, they lived there for like 700 years before Isabella and Ferdinand conquered it

That'd be nice :p
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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Like Scotland by imperialist England? :P

They were given a referendum while Tibetans had 99 percent of their temples killed and around 1.2 million people murdered, all their resources taken and many of them are murdered or tortured for protesting or even just expressing their culture by the evil communist regime from China. The Scots aren't facing anything remotely genocidal

At one point they were
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:04 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Iyanden wrote:They are a country brutally occupied and colonised by communist China

A country has to be recognized by the UN. It's great that you support Tibetan independence (at least, cultural independence [also, I support their independence, same goes for East Turkestan]), but your thoughts don't have that level of influence.

Tibet and East Turkestan are both countries even if the evil corrupt communist sympathising UN doesn't recognise it

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:04 pm

Iyanden wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Like Scotland by imperialist England? :P

They were given a referendum while Tibetans had 99 percent of their temples killed and around 1.2 million people murdered, all their resources taken and many of them are murdered or tortured for protesting or even just expressing their culture by the evil communist regime from China. The Scots aren't facing anything remotely genocidal

Not anymore, of course. They've been subjugated for centuries.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:05 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Should Catholic European Spaniards be expelled from Andalusia so that Muslim Arabs from North Africa can resettle it? After all, they lived there for like 700 years before Isabella and Ferdinand conquered it, and they took it from the Vandals, not the Spanish. :^)

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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:06 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Iyanden wrote:They were given a referendum while Tibetans had 99 percent of their temples killed and around 1.2 million people murdered, all their resources taken and many of them are murdered or tortured for protesting or even just expressing their culture by the evil communist regime from China. The Scots aren't facing anything remotely genocidal

Not anymore, of course. They've been subjugated for centuries.

Too bad for them then

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:06 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:A country has to be recognized by the UN. It's great that you support Tibetan independence (at least, cultural independence [also, I support their independence, same goes for East Turkestan]), but your thoughts don't have that level of influence.

Tibet and East Turkestan are both countries even if the evil corrupt communist sympathising UN doesn't recognise it

The UN doesn't support any ideology except freedom.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:06 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Tibet and East Turkestan are both countries even if the evil corrupt communist sympathising UN doesn't recognise it

The UN doesn't support any ideology except freedom.

The UN is just a corrupt shit show

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:06 pm

Iyanden wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Not anymore, of course. They've been subjugated for centuries.

Too bad for them then

Does this go for the white British people too? Because those 5 words can be thrown right back at you.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:07 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:The UN doesn't support any ideology except freedom.

The UN is just a corrupt shit show

I know.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:07 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Al-'Andalus!

Al-Andalus ZINDABAD!!!!!

They lost and the Spanish have held onto it long enough now its there's the Arabs failed to hold it so the Spanish own it now and they also lived there for even longer after winning the Reconquista.

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:07 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Should Catholic European Spaniards be expelled from Andalusia so that Muslim Arabs from North Africa can resettle it? After all, they lived there for like 700 years before Isabella and Ferdinand conquered it, and they took it from the Vandals, not the Spanish. :^)

They lost and they invaded Europe the Spanish won so they have the right to keep it

I mean, the Spanish today are descended from the Vandals and Visigoths and all that (as well as lots of Arab blood, since nearly all of Spain was once under Muslim control), who took it from the Romans, so the Spanish are invaders too. For a few hundred years it was the Christian Spanish who were losing, not the North African-descended Muslim ones.

Should we return Spain to Italy, as the successor state of Rome, because they ruled it before the Vandals?

Iyanden wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Like Scotland by imperialist England? :P

They were given a referendum while Tibetans had 99 percent of their temples killed and around 1.2 million people murdered, all their resources taken and many of them are murdered or tortured for protesting or even just expressing their culture by the evil communist regime from China. The Scots aren't facing anything remotely genocidal

Tibet has been essentially under Chinese control since the Qing Dynasty, really, save for a brief break in the late 1800s and early 1900s when it was under British influence. And besides, you said earlier the Arabs don't get to come back to Spain, since they lost- and the Tibetans lost to the Chinese, so why should we sympathize? :^))))
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:08 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Al-'Andalus!

Al-Andalus ZINDABAD!!!!!

Imarah Qurtuba = best Cordoba

Iyanden wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Not anymore, of course. They've been subjugated for centuries.

Too bad for them then

Oh, yeah. Forgot. Only your race/ethnicity matters. Everyone else can go fuck themselves. Muh bad.
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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:08 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Iyanden wrote:They lost and they invaded Europe the Spanish won so they have the right to keep it

I mean, the Spanish today are descended from the Vandals and Visigoths and all that (as well as lots of Arab blood, since nearly all of Spain was once under Muslim control), who took it from the Romans, so the Spanish are invaders too. For a few hundred years it was the Christian Spanish who were losing, not the North African-descended Muslim ones.

Should we return Spain to Italy, as the successor state of Rome, because they ruled it before the Vandals?

Iyanden wrote:They were given a referendum while Tibetans had 99 percent of their temples killed and around 1.2 million people murdered, all their resources taken and many of them are murdered or tortured for protesting or even just expressing their culture by the evil communist regime from China. The Scots aren't facing anything remotely genocidal

Tibet has been essentially under Chinese control since the Qing Dynasty, really, save for a brief break in the late 1800s and early 1900s when it was under British influence. And besides, you said earlier the Arabs don't get to come back to Spain, since they lost- and the Tibetans lost to the Chinese, so why should we sympathize? :^))))

Tibet was invaded in the 1950s in living memory but the whole Spanish Arab wars where centuries ago

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:08 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Al-Andalus ZINDABAD!!!!!

They lost and the Spanish have held onto it long enough now its there's the Arabs failed to hold it so the Spanish own it now and they also lived there for even longer after winning the Reconquista.

Actually, it's only been 525 years since the end of the Reconquista, so Muslims have lived in Andalusia longer than modern Catholic Spaniards. :^)))))))))))))))
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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:09 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Iyanden wrote:They lost and the Spanish have held onto it long enough now its there's the Arabs failed to hold it so the Spanish own it now and they also lived there for even longer after winning the Reconquista.

Actually, it's only been 525 years since the end of the Reconquista, so Muslims have lived in Andalusia longer than modern Catholic Spaniards. :^)))))))))))))))

But they lost and couldn't take it back so its a part of Spain

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:09 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Al-Andalus ZINDABAD!!!!!

They lost and the Spanish have held onto it long enough now its there's the Arabs failed to hold it so the Spanish own it now and they also lived there for even longer after winning the Reconquista.

North Africans ruled Al-Andalus too.
Also, so if immigrants from MENA 'won' Britain, you'd be ok with it?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:10 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Senkaku wrote:I mean, the Spanish today are descended from the Vandals and Visigoths and all that (as well as lots of Arab blood, since nearly all of Spain was once under Muslim control), who took it from the Romans, so the Spanish are invaders too. For a few hundred years it was the Christian Spanish who were losing, not the North African-descended Muslim ones.

Should we return Spain to Italy, as the successor state of Rome, because they ruled it before the Vandals?


Tibet has been essentially under Chinese control since the Qing Dynasty, really, save for a brief break in the late 1800s and early 1900s when it was under British influence. And besides, you said earlier the Arabs don't get to come back to Spain, since they lost- and the Tibetans lost to the Chinese, so why should we sympathize? :^))))

Tibet was invaded in the 1950s in living memory but the whole Spanish Arab wars where centuries ago

Tibet also officially broke free from China in the 1910s, which is in living memory, since the oldest person on Earth whose age can be documented is 117.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:10 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Actually, it's only been 525 years since the end of the Reconquista, so Muslims have lived in Andalusia longer than modern Catholic Spaniards. :^)))))))))))))))

But they lost and couldn't take it back so its a part of Spain

Well, Tibet lost, and they can't take Tibet back, so it's part of China right??
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:10 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Iyanden wrote:They lost and the Spanish have held onto it long enough now its there's the Arabs failed to hold it so the Spanish own it now and they also lived there for even longer after winning the Reconquista.

Actually, it's only been 525 years since the end of the Reconquista, so Muslims have lived in Andalusia longer than modern Catholic Spaniards. :^)))))))))))))))

I'm feeling some serious pride right now 8)
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:10 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Actually, it's only been 525 years since the end of the Reconquista, so Muslims have lived in Andalusia longer than modern Catholic Spaniards. :^)))))))))))))))

But they lost and couldn't take it back so its a part of Spain

I mean, Spain can't even hold onto Catalonia properly nowadays. Is that a Muslim Reconquista I hear?
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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:10 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Iyanden wrote:They lost and the Spanish have held onto it long enough now its there's the Arabs failed to hold it so the Spanish own it now and they also lived there for even longer after winning the Reconquista.

North Africans ruled Al-Andalus too.
Also, so if immigrants from MENA 'won' Britain, you'd be ok with it?

I will fight to take it back if they invaded and conquered like the ancient or medieval era. I will fight for my country like many of my ancestors did if that happens
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