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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:45 pm

Iyanden, I have 2 questions for you about maintaining European culture:
1: Do you think the Celts should reclaim their culture or assimilate into Anglo-Saxon culture?
2: Since you do support maintain European culture, do you think Europe should return to a 1400s mindset? Or earlier?
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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:46 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Iyanden wrote:I do support maintain ones culture and the Celts were unable to in most of England because they lost however they didn't in Scotland, Wales and Ireland

What culture are you maintaining that of whites? The United States and Canada and many in South America where founded on immigration.

Why do you always bring up "whites" who aren't a homogenous group the English and the Germans and the Russians for example are different people and you also have albinos world wide

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:46 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:So do you think the Celts should reclaim their culture or assimilate into Anglo-Saxon culture?

Its been over 1000 years so your beating a dead horse. Many of them did indeed assimilate to Anglo Saxon culture or move to places like Scotland. They lost the war and they didn't build England as a country and entity and it didn't exist when England was still full of Celtic tribes but rather Scotland and Wales

Ok, you answered my 1st question...kinda sorta. Yes, some/most Celts did assimilate, but I'm asking what you think of it. Should that continue, or should Celts reclaim their culture?
So then you don't support maintaining culture? At least, once the native culture gets conquered by another culture?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:48 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Its been over 1000 years so your beating a dead horse. Many of them did indeed assimilate to Anglo Saxon culture or move to places like Scotland. They lost the war and they didn't build England as a country and entity and it didn't exist when England was still full of Celtic tribes but rather Scotland and Wales

Ok, you answered my 1st question.
So then you don't support maintaining culture? At least, once the native culture gets conquered by another culture?

The English were the conquering culture and I support defending English culture for this case. One you settle in a land for over a 1000 years your the native culture so the English made themselves the native culture there just like many others did when they took a piece of land for centuries or over a 1000 years in this case. The Celts used to the same thing too
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:50 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Ok, you answered my 1st question.
So then you don't support maintaining culture? At least, once the native culture gets conquered by another culture?

The English were the conquering culture and I support defending English culture for this case. One you settle in a land for over a 1000 years your the native culture so the English made themselves the native culture there just like many others did when they took a piece of land for centuries or over a 1000 years in this case

So if people from MENA settled in Europe - or, in this case, Britain - for 1000 years, you would support their culture and seek to preserve it?
Also, your 1st sentence shows that you don't support cultural preservation, you just support it for cultures you like.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:51 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Iyanden wrote:The English were the conquering culture and I support defending English culture for this case. One you settle in a land for over a 1000 years your the native culture so the English made themselves the native culture there just like many others did when they took a piece of land for centuries or over a 1000 years in this case

So if people from MENA settled in Europe - or, in this case, Britain - for 1000 years, you would support their culture and seek to preserve it?

So that's why it must be stopped before its too late if they were trying to do that so we don't end up being conquered and on the winning side
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:51 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:So if people from MENA settled in Europe - or, in this case, Britain - for 1000 years, you would support their culture and seek to preserve it?

So that's why it must be stopped before its too late

But would you support it or not?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:53 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Iyanden wrote:So that's why it must be stopped before its too late

But would you support it or not?

If they win and I was born a different race 1000 years later and read about it yes. So that is why it must be fought

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:53 pm

Iyanden wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What culture are you maintaining that of whites? The United States and Canada and many in South America where founded on immigration.

Why do you always bring up "whites" who aren't a homogenous group the English and the Germans and the Russians for example are different people and you also have albinos world wide

so then whose culture are you protecting? Or is this a white supremacy argument? We must preserve the white majority in your city or country.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:54 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:But would you support it or not?

If they win and I was born a different race 1000 years later and read about it yes. So that is why it must be fought

"Born a different race"
Is that why you support the Anglo-Saxon cultural imperialism of Celtic land? Are you Anglo-Saxon/non-Celtic?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Why do you always bring up "whites" who aren't a homogenous group the English and the Germans and the Russians for example are different people and you also have albinos world wide

so then whose culture are you protecting? Or is this a white supremacy argument? We must preserve the white majority in my city or country.

No, because if he supported maintaining "white culture", he would be against Anglo-Saxon culture on Celtic land.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Why do you always bring up "whites" who aren't a homogenous group the English and the Germans and the Russians for example are different people and you also have albinos world wide

so then whose culture are you protecting? Or is this a white supremacy argument? We must preserve the white majority in my city or country.

No as much as your are obsessed with the so called white supremacists no. I said the native culture of the nation must be preserved. I am really saddened by the cultural genocide in Tibet(they are brown to orange) and I believe their culture must be protected just like English culture as we were talking about it or any other culture that is good.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:56 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
San Lumen wrote:so then whose culture are you protecting? Or is this a white supremacy argument? We must preserve the white majority in my city or country.

No, because if he supported maintaining "white culture", he would be against Anglo-Saxon culture on Celtic land.

So then whose culture is being protected or maintained?

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:No, because if he supported maintaining "white culture", he would be against Anglo-Saxon culture on Celtic land.

So then whose culture is being protected or maintained?

In England's case English culture same as any other country protecting their culture

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:57 pm

Iyanden wrote:
San Lumen wrote:so then whose culture are you protecting? Or is this a white supremacy argument? We must preserve the white majority in my city or country.

No as much as your are obsessed with the so called white supremacists no. I said the native culture of the nation must be preserved. I am really saddened by the cultural genocide in Tibet(they are brown to orange) and I believe their culture must be protected just like English culture as we were talking about it or any other culture that is good.

Define native culture. What is the native culture of say Brazil, Canada, America or the UK?

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:58 pm

Iyanden wrote:
San Lumen wrote:so then whose culture are you protecting? Or is this a white supremacy argument? We must preserve the white majority in my city or country.

I said the native culture of the nation must be preserved.

So then you support Celtic culture?
San Lumen wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:No, because if he supported maintaining "white culture", he would be against Anglo-Saxon culture on Celtic land.

So then whose culture is being protected or maintained?

I guess Anglo-Saxon 'modern British' culture
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:58 pm

Iyanden wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So then whose culture is being protected or maintained?

In England's case English culture same as any other country protecting their culture

But Tibet's not a country.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:59 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Iyanden wrote:I said the native culture of the nation must be preserved.

So then you support Celtic culture?
San Lumen wrote:So then whose culture is being protected or maintained?

I guess Anglo-Saxon 'modern British' culture

I support Celtic culture in Celtic countries such as Scotland for example

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 1:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Iyanden wrote:No as much as your are obsessed with the so called white supremacists no. I said the native culture of the nation must be preserved. I am really saddened by the cultural genocide in Tibet(they are brown to orange) and I believe their culture must be protected just like English culture as we were talking about it or any other culture that is good.

Define native culture. What is the native culture of say Brazil, Canada, America or the UK?

See, that's the weird thing.
Iyanden said he supports Anglo-Saxon culture, but then he said he supports native culture, and the native culture of Britain is Celtic culture, so I'm confused.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:00 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Iyanden wrote:In England's case English culture same as any other country protecting their culture

But Tibet's not a country.

They are a country brutally occupied and colonised by communist China

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:00 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:So then you support Celtic culture?

I guess Anglo-Saxon 'modern British' culture

I support Celtic culture in Celtic countries such as Scotland for example

But all of the British Isles were once Celtic, in factm almost all of Europe was once Celtic.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:00 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:But Tibet's not a country.

They are a country brutally occupied and colonised by communist China

Like Scotland by imperialist England? :P
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Postby Iyanden » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:01 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Define native culture. What is the native culture of say Brazil, Canada, America or the UK?

See, that's the weird thing.
Iyanden said he supports Anglo-Saxon culture, but then he said he supports native culture, and the native culture of Britain is Celtic culture, so I'm confused.

Native culture of England isn't Celtic anymore as they didn't create England they are the native culture in Scotland and Wales

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:01 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:But Tibet's not a country.

They are a country brutally occupied and colonised by communist China

A country has to be recognized by the UN. It's great that you support Tibetan independence (at least, cultural independence [also, I support their independence, same goes for East Turkestan]), but your thoughts don't have that level of influence.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:02 pm

Iyanden wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:See, that's the weird thing.
Iyanden said he supports Anglo-Saxon culture, but then he said he supports native culture, and the native culture of Britain is Celtic culture, so I'm confused.

Native culture of England isn't Celtic anymore as they didn't create England they are the native culture in Scotland and Wales

"anymore"? How does something/someone 'stop' being native?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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