Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Teachers and nurses aren't upper class. Low level jobs should be left for native people that cannot get another job so they can be employed or left to robots. 3rd world immigration especially the current method isn't the answer

Oh so only people from certain areas should allowed in and only if you have certain skills? Someone trying to leave Eritrea, Syria or Uzbekistan which are dictatorships tough luck. Your not highly educated or highly skill so we won't let you in?

No, no, no. You see, it's not our problem, obviously. They don't matter like a proper American/Briton, amirite?

They are considered "higher jobs". They require a college degree. You know exactly what I meant.

Yes and if they willing to work and all native people with degrees get jobs these people can get jobs too and high skilled workers even if they are from unstable countries will be more productive and wont do crime and things and com in smaller numbers and we can have quotas of how many we can let in

So, all foreigners without a college degree are going to commit crimes?

[Iyanden]

Teachers and nurses aren't upper class. Low level jobs should be left for native people that cannot get another job so they can be employed or left to robots. 3rd world immigration especially the current method isn't the answer

Oh so only people from certain areas should allowed in and only if you have certain skills? Someone trying to leave Eritrea, Syria or Uzbekistan which are dictatorships tough luck. Your not highly educated or highly skill so we won't let you in?

It doesn't matter if its a dictatorship that's a large swathe of the world only if they are in a large war and are women, elderly or children

[San Lumen]

Oh so only people from certain areas should allowed in and only if you have certain skills? Someone trying to leave Eritrea, Syria or Uzbekistan which are dictatorships tough luck. Your not highly educated or highly skill so we won't let you in?

You're dissing one of the few things Canada does correctly.
Wow.

So im not allowed to dislike Canadian policy now?

[Iyanden]

Oh so only people from certain areas should allowed in and only if you have certain skills? Someone trying to leave Eritrea, Syria or Uzbekistan which are dictatorships tough luck. Your not highly educated or highly skill so we won't let you in?

No, no, no. You see, it's not our problem, obviously. They don't matter like a proper American/Briton, amirite?

Yes and if they willing to work and all native people with degrees get jobs these people can get jobs too and high skilled workers even if they are from unstable countries will be more productive and wont do crime and things and com in smaller numbers and we can have quotas of how many we can let in

So, all foreigners without a college degree are going to commit crimes?

No but the current method is leading to letting in too many people from the 3rd world who are illiterate and have high crime rates certainly not all but a good chunk of them

[Proctopeo]

You're dissing one of the few things Canada does correctly.
Wow.

So im not allowed to dislike Canadian policy now?

I never said you couldn't.
It's just that you found one of their actually good policies and decided it was Problematic.

[San Lumen]

Oh so only people from certain areas should allowed in and only if you have certain skills? Someone trying to leave Eritrea, Syria or Uzbekistan which are dictatorships tough luck. Your not highly educated or highly skill so we won't let you in?

It doesn't matter if its a dictatorship that's a large swathe of the world only if they are in a large war and are women, elderly or children

Why doesn't it matter? You'd just slam the door in their face and say not my problem if your oppressed, or could be thrown in jail for being gay or for your religion, or your country is embroiled in war?

[San Lumen]

So im not allowed to dislike Canadian policy now?

I never said you couldn't.
It's just that you found one of their actually good policies and decided it was Problematic.

Well i don't think its a good policy.

[Iyanden]

It doesn't matter if its a dictatorship that's a large swathe of the world only if they are in a large war and are women, elderly or children

Why doesn't it matter? You'd just slam the door in their face and say not my problem if your oppressed, or could be thrown in jail for being gay or for your religion, or your country is embroiled in war?

Not all the world have democracy and a lot of them don't want it either and we have to accept that and mind our business. As for the gay thing or the religion thing it might be horrible but we cant be soft and damage our selves out of weakness and over compassion sometimes the rest of the world must find their own path. That's how nature works unpleasant things happen all the time

[Proctopeo]

I never said you couldn't.
It's just that you found one of their actually good policies and decided it was Problematic.

Well i don't think its a good policy.

How is a merit-based immigration system a bad policy?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Why doesn't it matter? You'd just slam the door in their face and say not my problem if your oppressed, or could be thrown in jail for being gay or for your religion, or your country is embroiled in war?

Not all the world have democracy and a lot of them don't want it either and we have to accept that and mind our business. As for the gay thing or the religion thing it might be horrible but we cant be soft and damage our selves for out of weakness and over compassion sometimes the rest of the world must find their own path

Yes. And they're doing so by moving to other countries.

[San Lumen]

Why doesn't it matter? You'd just slam the door in their face and say not my problem if your oppressed, or could be thrown in jail for being gay or for your religion, or your country is embroiled in war?

Not all the world have democracy and a lot of them don't want it either and we have to accept that and mind our business. As for the gay thing or the religion thing it might be horrible but we cant be soft and damage our selves for out of weakness and over compassion sometimes the rest of the world must find their own path

Thats a really weak argument. How is letting people who are non white in being soft or damaging our selves? Isn't that a bit racist?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Isn't that a bit racist?

You're just now realizing this, Lumen?

[Iyanden]

Not all the world have democracy and a lot of them don't want it either and we have to accept that and mind our business. As for the gay thing or the religion thing it might be horrible but we cant be soft and damage our selves for out of weakness and over compassion sometimes the rest of the world must find their own path

Yes. And they're doing so by moving to other countries.

But the countries they are moving to must defend their people and culture first. I say the rest of the world must all fix their own problems although we can help a bit with things like foreign aid

[San Lumen]

Well i don't think its a good policy.

How is a merit-based immigration system a bad policy?

Because why should your education and skills have a bering on weather your allowed to immigrate? Did your ancestors have amazing job skills or education when they came? My great grandfather came to the United States shortly before World War One to escape the pogroms. Under a merit based system he would have been denied entry.

[Iyanden]

Not all the world have democracy and a lot of them don't want it either and we have to accept that and mind our business. As for the gay thing or the religion thing it might be horrible but we cant be soft and damage our selves for out of weakness and over compassion sometimes the rest of the world must find their own path

Thats a really weak argument. How is letting people who are non white in being soft or damaging our selves? Isn't that a bit racist?

Nobody here never said anything about non whites the Tibetans or the Japanese for example are very well behaved work hard and are rarely hard of or seen in a bad way for example

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Yes. And they're doing so by moving to other countries.

But the countries they are moving to must defend their people and culture first. I say the rest of the world must all fix their own problems although we can help a bit with things like foreign aid

Oh, yeah. You have some weird fixation on "culture". My bad.

And foreign aid? You can send all the foreign aid you want to Eritrea. That doesn't mean shit about if it is actually going to get to those people and not some cartel.

[San Lumen]

Yes. And they're doing so by moving to other countries.

But the countries they are moving to must defend their people and culture first. I say the rest of the world must all fix their own problems although we can help a bit with things like foreign aid

So someone in United Kingdom whose Black or Asian is not one of their people? How do you define their people? The white majority must come before all else.

How is your culture being harmed in anyway?

[Iyanden]

How is a merit-based immigration system a bad policy?

Because why should your education and skills have a bering on weather your allowed to immigrate? Did your ancestors have amazing job skills or education when they came? My great grandfather came to the United States shortly before World War One to escape the pogroms. Under a merit based system he would have been denied entry.

The united states is not the same as the nations of Europe for example England which isn't remotely based off immigration like the USA and has much less space and a different history

[Proctopeo]

How is a merit-based immigration system a bad policy?

Because why should your education and skills have a bering on weather your allowed to immigrate? Did your ancestors have amazing job skills or education when they came? My great grandfather came to the United States shortly before World War One to escape the pogroms. Under a merit based system he would have been denied entry.

So, because historically immigrants weren't highly skilled and highly educated, we shouldn't have skills and educations as standards for immigration?
Also, refugees (actual refugees) are an exception.

[Iyanden]

But the countries they are moving to must defend their people and culture first. I say the rest of the world must all fix their own problems although we can help a bit with things like foreign aid

So someone in United Kingdom whose Black or Asian is not one of their people? The white majority should be only ones who matter?

The 2nd and 3rd generations ones are and white people like say the Polish can be techniquely foreign too

[Iyanden]

Isn't that a bit racist?

You're just now realizing this, Lumen?

What's "racist" now?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

So someone in United Kingdom whose Black or Asian is not one of their people? The white majority should be only ones who matter?

The 2nd and 3rd generations ones are and white people like say the Polish can be techniquely foreign too

My brother was born in the UK. They then moved to the US when he was 2. Is he not properly cultured as an American?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Because why should your education and skills have a bering on weather your allowed to immigrate? Did your ancestors have amazing job skills or education when they came? My great grandfather came to the United States shortly before World War One to escape the pogroms. Under a merit based system he would have been denied entry.

The united states is not the same as the nations of Europe for example England which isn't remotely based off immigration like the USA and has much less space and a different history

>England not based off of immigration
>Angles
>Saxons
>Celts
>Normans

[Iyanden]

The 2nd and 3rd generations ones are and white people like say the Polish can be techniquely foreign too

My brother was born in the UK. They then moved to the US when he was 2. Is he not properly cultured as an American?

I don't know your brother so how would I know?

[San Lumen]

Because why should your education and skills have a bering on weather your allowed to immigrate? Did your ancestors have amazing job skills or education when they came? My great grandfather came to the United States shortly before World War One to escape the pogroms. Under a merit based system he would have been denied entry.

So, because historically immigrants weren't highly skilled and highly educated, we shouldn't have skills and educations as standards for immigration?
Also, refugees (actual refugees) are an exception.

No they should not be. The new mayor of Helena came to the US from Liberia with almost nothing and little skills is now the first black mayor in Montana history. He served in the Navy Reserve and worked for the state government in Health and Human Services. But we should have denied him entry because he wasn't highly skilled or educated.