Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[Iyanden]

I never said anything about skin colour. I think they can let in a limited amount of people but we let in too many. I think the UK policy should be a bit more like Japan with foreign people but not too many and the people they let in should only be people that have a job and aren't attached to certain ideologies.

And whats to many to you.
People who are fleeing from civil war or dictatorial governments like Eritrea, Sudan or Syria aren't going to have jobs lined up. They should just be denied entry because of that and their religion? The latter is the definition of xenophobia.

I never said religion although some branches of Islam I think is fair to ban like whabbism

[San Lumen]

I think Austria is doing quite good with all those groups
of people from different cultures.

As are many other countries. A lot of the fear of it has to do with prejudice and worry about the unknown. Vienna is a very diverse and multicultural city and that has contributed greatly to its charm and character.

[Iyanden]

I never said anything about skin colour. I think they can let in a limited amount of people but we let in too many. I think the UK policy should be a bit more like Japan with foreign people but not too many and the people they let in should only be people that have a job and aren't attached to certain ideologies.

And whats to many to you.
People who are fleeing from civil war or dictatorial governments like Eritrea, Sudan or Syria aren't going to have jobs lined up. They should just be denied entry because of that and their religion? The latter is the definition of xenophobia.

When I say too many I mean like over 5 percent. I think around 5 percent is fair

[Katzenstaat]

I mean, yeah. By definition, most Japanese would live in Japan and most British would live in Britain. They're not ethnicities or races. They're nationalities. Now, do you mean Yamato and Anglo-Saxons?

Borders are what keeps a nation that nation. The Japanese race is the Yamato race and Anglo Saxons are just England Scotland and Wales are different. I am half basically Yamato and Anglo Saxon and I would say they not "segregated" but they just populate their own land which is normal as they have been the native population in their island for over a 1000 years

When people can visit each other's country as friends, traders and tourists and everyone is sufficiently rich then who cares about national borders being de facto statistically segregational?

Japanese tourists visit America all the time. :-)

[San Lumen]

And whats to many to you.
People who are fleeing from civil war or dictatorial governments like Eritrea, Sudan or Syria aren't going to have jobs lined up. They should just be denied entry because of that and their religion? The latter is the definition of xenophobia.

When I say too many I mean like over 5 percent. I think around 5 percent is fair

And if someone doesnt have a job when they arrive they should be denied entry? All those people leaving Eritrea, Sudan or Syria aren't going to spend their time looking for a job in London first.

A young man i follow on Instagram who is a model in Los Angeles was rescued from a Turkish prison after deserting the Iranian military because he was outed as gay. He had he been sent back to Tehran he would have been executed. According to you he should have been denied entry because he didn't have a job lined up? I doubt he was thinking or worrying about applying for jobs while he was hoping for his rescue.

[Katzenstaat]

And whats to many to you.
People who are fleeing from civil war or dictatorial governments like Eritrea, Sudan or Syria aren't going to have jobs lined up. They should just be denied entry because of that and their religion? The latter is the definition of xenophobia.

I never said religion although some branches of Islam I think is fair to ban like whabbism

Well if a form of Islam is willing to respect secular laws and not form armed groups then there is nothing problematic with that.

[Tekeristan]

Oh yea people just dont make militias in times of great personal danger in the absense of reliable government.

[Iyanden]

When I say too many I mean like over 5 percent. I think around 5 percent is fair

And if someone doesnt have a job when they arrive they should be denied entry? All those people leaving Eritrea, Sudan or Syria aren't going to spend their time looking for a job in London first.

A young man i follow on Instagram who is a model in Los Angeles was reduced from Turkish prison after deserting the Iranian military because he was outed as gay. He had he been sent back to Tehran he would have been executed. According to you he should have been denied entry because he didn't have a job lined up? I doubt he was thinking or worrying about applying for jobs while he was hoping for his rescue.

We should be pressuring Iran and the Islamic world not to kill gays in the 1st place and the man you talk of is different but a large number of people coming in here have the ideology of the people that wanted to kill him

[Katzenstaat]

Borders are what keeps a nation that nation. The Japanese race is the Yamato race and Anglo Saxons are just England Scotland and Wales are different. I am half basically Yamato and Anglo Saxon and I would say they not "segregated" but they just populate their own land which is normal as they have been the native population in their island for over a 1000 years

So we should kick out everyone who isn't white or pass statues to restore a white majority in places that are not or better yet just close the borders entirely?

I'm sure that many far-rightist Jews and Northeast Asians are willing to sign some treaty of non-aggression with White Nationalists who aren't Nazi. So will many conservative Indians.

Let those who are strong and powerful respect each other for the alternative is a nuclear race war that benefits none. Why would anyone want that?

[Katzenstaat]

And if someone doesnt have a job when they arrive they should be denied entry? All those people leaving Eritrea, Sudan or Syria aren't going to spend their time looking for a job in London first.

A young man i follow on Instagram who is a model in Los Angeles was reduced from Turkish prison after deserting the Iranian military because he was outed as gay. He had he been sent back to Tehran he would have been executed. According to you he should have been denied entry because he didn't have a job lined up? I doubt he was thinking or worrying about applying for jobs while he was hoping for his rescue.

We should be pressuring Iran and the Islamic world not to kill gays in the 1st place and the man you talk of is different but a large number of people coming in here have the ideology of the people that wanted to kill him

I know some Iranians, Turks and Arabs. They are good people who have great potentials. Their mortal enemy is Islamism that infects their homeland. After this disease is cured we will truly have peace, prosperity and science in the Middle East.

I would like to be able to go to Damascus and have some nice chat with local Arab scientists while drinking Turkish coffee. Damascus is a beautiful city with nice architecture. So are Tehran, Baghdad and Sana'a. Even despite the destruction in Sana'a I can see some unique beauty there that shows that a high culture is there. When the hell can Islamism be dead so that I can actually visit these places as a friend?

[San Lumen]

And if someone doesnt have a job when they arrive they should be denied entry? All those people leaving Eritrea, Sudan or Syria aren't going to spend their time looking for a job in London first.

A young man i follow on Instagram who is a model in Los Angeles was reduced from Turkish prison after deserting the Iranian military because he was outed as gay. He had he been sent back to Tehran he would have been executed. According to you he should have been denied entry because he didn't have a job lined up? I doubt he was thinking or worrying about applying for jobs while he was hoping for his rescue.

We should be pressuring Iran and the Islamic world not to kill gays in the 1st place and the man you talk of is different but a large number of people coming in here have the ideology of the people that wanted to kill him

And how is that pressure going? Not to well it seems and as many LGBT people from those countries have been leaving to seek refuge in the west.
How is the man i talk of different?
No they don't have the ideology of wanting to kill people like him. He is protected under the laws of California and the United States. Those laws are not going to change.

[Iyanden]

We should be pressuring Iran and the Islamic world not to kill gays in the 1st place and the man you talk of is different but a large number of people coming in here have the ideology of the people that wanted to kill him

And how is that pressure going? Not to well it seems and as many LGBT people from those countries have been leaving to seek refuge in the west.
How is he different?

No they don't have the ideology of wanting to kill people like him. He is protected under the laws of California and the United States. Those laws are not going to change.

They will be affected when the area becomes demographically a majority for the people that would want to kill him. I feel bad for him but why does the west always have to take the bill? I mean he is one man and can be let in but letting in masses of people from the 3rd world hasn't worked. Also I am pretty sure gay is legal in Turkey

[San Lumen]

And how is that pressure going? Not to well it seems and as many LGBT people from those countries have been leaving to seek refuge in the west.
How is he different?

No they don't have the ideology of wanting to kill people like him. He is protected under the laws of California and the United States. Those laws are not going to change.

They will be affected when the area becomes demographically a majority for the people that would want to kill him. I feel bad for him but why does the west always have to take the bill? I mean he is one man and can be let in but letting in masses of people from the 3rd world hasn't worked. Also I am pretty sure gay is legal in Turkey

He deserted the Iranian army after being outed and fled to Turkey where he was arrested. I sincerely doubt that the laws of California will be changed so that LGBT people will imprisoned and/or executed anytime soon.

Why hasn't it worked? How does letting in refugees feeling civil war and dictatorships harming you in any way?

[Iyanden]

They will be affected when the area becomes demographically a majority for the people that would want to kill him. I feel bad for him but why does the west always have to take the bill? I mean he is one man and can be let in but letting in masses of people from the 3rd world hasn't worked. Also I am pretty sure gay is legal in Turkey

He deserted the Iranian army after being outed and fled to Turkey where he was arrested. I sincerely doubt that the laws of California will be changed so that LGBT people will imprisoned and/or executed anytime soon.

Why hasn't it worked? How does letting in refugees feeling civil war and dictatorships harming you in any way?

Most of the people are coming here to take and aren't not from Syria or another civil war also feeling dictatorship isn't a valid excuse unless they place a direct hit on your head. Most of the world is run by dictators doesn't mean the 1st world has to commit cultural and demographic suicide. They are also largely young military aged men the demographic of an invading army not refugees which contains mostly women, children and the elderly. Also not all of them do it but rape and terrorism sky rocketed like Sweden being turned into a rape capital or Cologne in Germany

[Tekeristan]

He deserted the Iranian army after being outed and fled to Turkey where he was arrested. I sincerely doubt that the laws of California will be changed so that LGBT people will imprisoned and/or executed anytime soon.

Why hasn't it worked? How does letting in refugees feeling civil war and dictatorships harming you in any way?

Most of the people are coming here to take and aren't not from Syria or another civil war also feeling dictatorship isn't a valid excuse unless they place a direct hit on your head. Most of the world is run by dictators doesn't mean the 1st world has to commit cultural and demographic suicide.

>demographic and cultural suicide
Ohh nooo 1% increases over 40+ years of time ahhh the "west" is truly dooommeedd

E: what is your frame of reference?

[Shikihara]

Viking, heheh

You know the Vikings that invaded England as my dads great grand father came from the North where they settled so its likely but its not certain like my Japanese or English

For all you know, you could have Middle Eastern ancestry due to Roman legionnaires coming from diverse places ranging from Gaul to Syria.

[The East Marches II]

They will be affected when the area becomes demographically a majority for the people that would want to kill him. I feel bad for him but why does the west always have to take the bill? I mean he is one man and can be let in but letting in masses of people from the 3rd world hasn't worked. Also I am pretty sure gay is legal in Turkey

He deserted the Iranian army after being outed and fled to Turkey where he was arrested. I sincerely doubt that the laws of California will be changed so that LGBT people will imprisoned and/or executed anytime soon.

Why hasn't it worked? How does letting in refugees feeling civil war and dictatorships harming you in any way?

They are a net drain on the system and bring poor values to my country. I would prefer to avoid this situation. We have enough poor and social problems as it is.

[Iyanden]

Most of the people are coming here to take and aren't not from Syria or another civil war also feeling dictatorship isn't a valid excuse unless they place a direct hit on your head. Most of the world is run by dictators doesn't mean the 1st world has to commit cultural and demographic suicide.

>demographic and cultural suicide
Ohh nooo 1% increases over 40+ years of time ahhh the "west" is truly dooommeedd

E: what is your frame of reference?

East London, Malmo, Cologne, swathes of Paris and Berlin, and plenty of no go zones all over Europe

[Tekeristan]

>demographic and cultural suicide
Ohh nooo 1% increases over 40+ years of time ahhh the "west" is truly dooommeedd

E: what is your frame of reference?

East London, Malmo, Cologne, swathes of Paris and Berlin, and plenty of no go zones all over Europe

>no go zones
>small specific parts of urban areas or cities

We all remember the irish "invasion" of Danzig, no less.
I sure cant wait for that 10% demographic total in 2050-2060.

[Iyanden]

You know the Vikings that invaded England as my dads great grand father came from the North where they settled so its likely but its not certain like my Japanese or English

For all you know, you could have Middle Eastern ancestry due to Roman legionnaires coming from diverse places ranging from Gaul to Syria.

2000 years ago with my great great great great great great...... grand parents even if that happened hardly counts and large chunks of the ancient middle east is certainly nothing to be upset about. I would really mind much like I said its about the culture

[San Lumen]

He deserted the Iranian army after being outed and fled to Turkey where he was arrested. I sincerely doubt that the laws of California will be changed so that LGBT people will imprisoned and/or executed anytime soon.

Why hasn't it worked? How does letting in refugees feeling civil war and dictatorships harming you in any way?

Most of the people are coming here to take and aren't not from Syria or another civil war also feeling dictatorship isn't a valid excuse unless they place a direct hit on your head. Most of the world is run by dictators doesn't mean the 1st world has to commit cultural and demographic suicide. They are also largely young military aged men the demographic of an invading army not refugees which contains mostly women, children and the elderly. Also not all of them do it but rape and terrorism sky rocketed like Sweden being turned into a rape capital or Cologne in Germany

Cultural and demographic suicide? What does that even mean, that there;s some sort of vast anti white conspiracy? stop listened to the fake right wing news.

>demographic and cultural suicide
Ohh nooo 1% increases over 40+ years of time ahhh the "west" is truly dooommeedd

E: what is your frame of reference?

East London, Malmo, Cologne, swathes of Paris and Berlin, and plenty of no go zones all over Europe

What does a no gone zone mean? You have a source for that claim because no one ever seems to be able to provide a reliable source.

[Kubumba Tribe]

Yes if the migrants honor your nation and work

Define "honoring the nation"

Diversity and multiculturalism is part and parcel of human society, and always has been. Deal with it.

True dat

The Burmese also seem to be critics of Islam too.

What's this supposed to mean?

I think Austria is doing quite good with all those groups
of people from different cultures.

What are they doing? Because all I've heard from Austria is that they banned Qur'an distribution and the burqa/niqab.

I never said religion although some branches of Islam I think is fair to ban like whabbism

Well if a form of Islam is willing to respect secular laws and not form armed groups then there is nothing problematic with that.

There shouldn't be 'forms' of Al-Islam. There should be 1 religion for Muslims to follow, not al these sects. Also, we do respect secular law, but we shouldn't be following them. We have our own laws.

We should be pressuring Iran and the Islamic world not to kill gays in the 1st place and the man you talk of is different but a large number of people coming in here have the ideology of the people that wanted to kill him

I know some Iranians, Turks and Arabs. They are good people who have great potentials. Their mortal enemy is extreme Islamism that infects their homeland. After this disease is cured we will truly have peace, prosperity and science in the Middle East.

I would like to be able to go to Damascus and have some nice chat with local Arab scientists while drinking Turkish coffee. Damascus is a beautiful city with nice architecture. So are Tehran, Baghdad and Sana'a. Even despite the destruction in Sana'a I can see some unique beauty there that shows that a high culture is there. When the hell can extreme Islamism be dead so that I can actually visit these places as a friend?

Um....extreme Islamists aren't the only people fighting these wars, I hope you know that.

cultural and demographic suicide.

Explain what you mean by this.

They are also largely young military aged men

I never understood this excuse.

[Iyanden]

Most of the people are coming here to take and aren't not from Syria or another civil war also feeling dictatorship isn't a valid excuse unless they place a direct hit on your head. Most of the world is run by dictators doesn't mean the 1st world has to commit cultural and demographic suicide. They are also largely young military aged men the demographic of an invading army not refugees which contains mostly women, children and the elderly. Also not all of them do it but rape and terrorism sky rocketed like Sweden being turned into a rape capital or Cologne in Germany

Cultural and demographic suicide? What does that even mean, that there;s some sort of vast anti white conspiracy? stop listened to the fake right wing news.

East London, Malmo, Cologne, swathes of Paris and Berlin, and plenty of no go zones all over Europe

What does a no gone zone mean? You have a source for that claim because no one ever seems to be able to provide a reliable source.

I never said anti white conspiracy if that was the case places like Poland wouldn't exist and why are you so obsessed with race. Left wingers tend to always make it racial in my opion

[Shikihara]

and Anglo Saxons are just England Scotland and Wales are different.

This is incorrect. Southern Scotland is culturally Anglo-Saxon. Historically they've spoken a Germanic language, which is one of the reasons that the capital is called Edinburgh.

[Iyanden]

Yes if the migrants honor your nation and work

Define "honoring the nation"

Diversity and multiculturalism is part and parcel of human society, and always has been. Deal with it.

True dat

The Burmese also seem to be critics of Islam too.

What's this supposed to mean?

I think Austria is doing quite good with all those groups
of people from different cultures.

What are they doing? Because all I've heard from Austria is that they banned Qur'an distribution and the burqa/niqab.

Well if a form of Islam is willing to respect secular laws and not form armed groups then there is nothing problematic with that.

There shouldn't be 'forms' of Al-Islam. There should be 1 religion for Muslims to follow, not al these sects. Also, we do respect secular law, but we shouldn't be following them. We have our own laws.

I know some Iranians, Turks and Arabs. They are good people who have great potentials. Their mortal enemy is Islamism that infects their homeland. After this disease is cured we will truly have peace, prosperity and science in the Middle East.

I would like to be able to go to Damascus and have some nice chat with local Arab scientists while drinking Turkish coffee. Damascus is a beautiful city with nice architecture. So are Tehran, Baghdad and Sana'a. Even despite the destruction in Sana'a I can see some unique beauty there that shows that a high culture is there. When the hell can Islamism be dead so that I can actually visit these places as a friend?

Um....Islamists aren't the only people fighting these wars, I hope you know that.

cultural and demographic suicide.

Explain what you mean by this.

They are also largely young military aged men

I never understood this excuse.

That's the point you have to follow the laws of the country your in so you have to follow the secular laws if you chose to live in a country with those. If you want your own separate legal system then go to a country that has them even the leftist Muslim mayor of London said sharia courts and separate legal systems are bad and cannot be allowed. You cant be above the law in someone else's country.