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Postby Iyanden » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:10 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:LOL. Most Japanese live in Japan and most British people live in Britain. National borders are basically segregation but they don't always cause problems in terms of living standards.

Why not address the real problems (WTF are some people poor? What can we do to help them?) instead?

I mean, yeah. By definition, most Japanese would live in Japan and most British would live in Britain. They're not ethnicities or races. They're nationalities. Now, do you mean Yamato and Anglo-Saxons?

Borders are what keeps a nation that nation. The Japanese race is the Yamato race and Anglo Saxons are just England Scotland and Wales are different. I am half basically Yamato and Anglo Saxon and I would say they not "segregated" but they just populate their own land which is normal as they have been the native population in their island for over a 1000 years

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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:14 am

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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I mean, yeah. By definition, most Japanese would live in Japan and most British would live in Britain. They're not ethnicities or races. They're nationalities. Now, do you mean Yamato and Anglo-Saxons?

Borders are what keeps a nation that nation.

Eh, not necessarily. The Kurds, the Catalans, the Armenians... all nationalities which have existed as a community even without a state with legally defined borders to call their own.

Iyanden wrote:The Japanese race is the Yamato race and Anglo Saxons are just England Scotland and Wales are different. I am half basically Yamato and Anglo Saxon and I would say they not "segregated" but they just populate their own land which is normal as they have been the native population in their island for over a 1000 years

Umm...
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:16 am

Liriena wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Borders are what keeps a nation that nation.

Eh, not necessarily. The Kurds, the Catalans, the Armenians... all nationalities which have existed as a community even without a state with legally defined borders to call their own.

Iyanden wrote:The Japanese race is the Yamato race and Anglo Saxons are just England Scotland and Wales are different. I am half basically Yamato and Anglo Saxon and I would say they not "segregated" but they just populate their own land which is normal as they have been the native population in their island for over a 1000 years

Umm...

And before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Sax ... of_Britain
And before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romano-British_culture
And before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Britons

But yeah sure 'native population.
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Postby Iyanden » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:16 am

Liriena wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Borders are what keeps a nation that nation.

Eh, not necessarily. The Kurds, the Catalans, the Armenians... all nationalities which have existed as a community even without a state with legally defined borders to call their own.

Iyanden wrote:The Japanese race is the Yamato race and Anglo Saxons are just England Scotland and Wales are different. I am half basically Yamato and Anglo Saxon and I would say they not "segregated" but they just populate their own land which is normal as they have been the native population in their island for over a 1000 years

Umm...

Both the Yamato and the Anglo Saxons conquered the land a really long time ago making it theirs. They also built the modern country and most of the stuff the country produced from technology to culture. The Ainu and the Celts both lived more primitively and built less stuff. Also Catalan isn't a country
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:20 am

Iyanden wrote:
Liriena wrote:Eh, not necessarily. The Kurds, the Catalans, the Armenians... all nationalities which have existed as a community even without a state with legally defined borders to call their own.


Umm...

Both the Yamato and the Anglo Saxons conquered the land a really long time ago making it theirs. They also built the modern country and most of the stuff the country produced from technology to culture. The Ainu and the Celts both lived more primitively and built less stuff.

That's some cool revisionism.

Iyanden wrote:Also Catalan isn't a country

Tell that to the Catalans.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:23 am

Liriena wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Borders are what keeps a nation that nation.

Eh, not necessarily. The Kurds, the Catalans, the Armenians... all nationalities which have existed as a community even without a state with legally defined borders to call their own.

Iyanden wrote:The Japanese race is the Yamato race and Anglo Saxons are just England Scotland and Wales are different. I am half basically Yamato and Anglo Saxon and I would say they not "segregated" but they just populate their own land which is normal as they have been the native population in their island for over a 1000 years

Umm...


He was off by like 40 years. It's coming damn close to a 1000. Also the Angles and Saxons did nothing wrong. The Normans should have taken the whole thing instead of leaving the Celts to be an ulcer.

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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:24 am

Genivaria wrote:
Liriena wrote:Eh, not necessarily. The Kurds, the Catalans, the Armenians... all nationalities which have existed as a community even without a state with legally defined borders to call their own.


Umm...

And before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Sax ... of_Britain
And before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romano-British_culture
And before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Britons

But yeah sure 'native population.


Using those an example, how will do influxes of foreigners work out for the residents of the British Isles? History says not very good

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Postby Iyanden » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:24 am

Liriena wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Both the Yamato and the Anglo Saxons conquered the land a really long time ago making it theirs. They also built the modern country and most of the stuff the country produced from technology to culture. The Ainu and the Celts both lived more primitively and built less stuff.

That's some cool revisionism.

Iyanden wrote:Also Catalan isn't a country

Tell that to the Catalans.

How is it revisionism what's next by your logic Turkey doesn't own Anatolia, America, Canada, Brazil and Mexico as well as Australia and New Zealand shouldn't exist, the Russians no longer own Siberia and the Arabs have to leave Egypt and the native Americans can leave to since they came from Siberia first

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Postby Iyanden » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:30 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Liriena wrote:Eh, not necessarily. The Kurds, the Catalans, the Armenians... all nationalities which have existed as a community even without a state with legally defined borders to call their own.


Umm...


He was off by like 40 years. It's coming damn close to a 1000. Also the Angles and Saxons did nothing wrong. The Normans should have taken the whole thing instead of leaving the Celts to be an ulcer.

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The Normans were despicable and the damage they did and the corrupt system they brought still affects the UK today. The world would have been better had the Normans lost and they likely would have if the English weren't forced to fight the Vikings at the same time and William got lucky at Hastings.

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Postby Iyanden » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:32 am

Genivaria wrote:
Liriena wrote:Eh, not necessarily. The Kurds, the Catalans, the Armenians... all nationalities which have existed as a community even without a state with legally defined borders to call their own.


Umm...

And before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Sax ... of_Britain
And before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romano-British_culture
And before that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Britons

But yeah sure 'native population.

They made it native as they were the ones that made England. The Romans came in very small numbers and left and the Celts lost and were more backwards at the time, they are more Scotland and Wales. If they stay in a land for that many centuries it becomes there's.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:33 am

Iyanden wrote:
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He was off by like 40 years. It's coming damn close to a 1000. Also the Angles and Saxons did nothing wrong. The Normans should have taken the whole thing instead of leaving the Celts to be an ulcer.

t. Not sympathizer

The Normans were despicable and the damage they did and the corrupt system they brought still affects the UK today. The world would have been better had the Normans lost and they likely would have if the English weren't forced to fight the Vikings at the same time and William got lucky at Hastings.


The Normans raised hell from England to Italy and even took themselves a slice of the Byzantines and Holy Land. The world would be a much duller and likely, more boring place.

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Postby Iyanden » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:35 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Iyanden wrote:The Normans were despicable and the damage they did and the corrupt system they brought still affects the UK today. The world would have been better had the Normans lost and they likely would have if the English weren't forced to fight the Vikings at the same time and William got lucky at Hastings.


The Normans raised hell from England to Italy and even took themselves a slice of the Byzantines and Holy Land. The world would be a much duller and likely, more boring place.

Their corrupt globalist aristocracy still plague the nation and the UK can never call its self a democracy until they go and lose their titles and I guess I would be more sympathetic to my ancestors side(well half of them)

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Postby Gospel Power » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:36 am

Yes if the migrants honor your nation and work
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:38 am

Iyanden wrote:
Liriena wrote:That's some cool revisionism.


Tell that to the Catalans.

How is it revisionism what's next by your logic Turkey doesn't own Anatolia, America, Canada, Brazil and Mexico as well as Australia and New Zealand shouldn't exist, the Russians no longer own Siberia and the Arabs have to leave Egypt and the native Americans can leave to since they came from Siberia first

Not necessarily, although I wouldn't mind a Second Inca Empire. ;3

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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:38 am

Iyanden wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
The Normans raised hell from England to Italy and even took themselves a slice of the Byzantines and Holy Land. The world would be a much duller and likely, more boring place.

Their corrupt globalist aristocracy still plague the nation and the UK can never call its self a democracy until they go and lose their titles and I guess I would be more sympathetic to my ancestors side(well half of them)

Wut?

Also, you missed the triple parenthesis around "globalist"? ;3
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:38 am

Iyanden wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
The Normans raised hell from England to Italy and even took themselves a slice of the Byzantines and Holy Land. The world would be a much duller and likely, more boring place.

Their corrupt globalist aristocracy still plague the nation and the UK can never call its self a democracy until they go and lose their titles and I guess I would be more sympathetic to my ancestors side(well half of them)


I guess your grandad should have been better at fighting than theirs. They won, the realm is theirs by right of conquest.

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Diversity and multiculturalism is part and parcel of human society, and always has been. Deal with it.
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Postby Iyanden » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:41 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Their corrupt globalist aristocracy still plague the nation and the UK can never call its self a democracy until they go and lose their titles and I guess I would be more sympathetic to my ancestors side(well half of them)


I guess your grandad should have been better at fighting than theirs. They won, the realm is theirs by right of conquest.

They "won" like cowards by attacking during an Viking invasion then sniping Harold in the eye. The Huscarls were better fighters than the Normans. They lost the right of conquest as they failed to colonise with their small numbers and we did get the last laugh by invading France and Normandy at least

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Iyanden wrote:
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I guess your grandad should have been better at fighting than theirs. They won, the realm is theirs by right of conquest.

They "won" like cowards by attacking during an Viking invasion then sniping Harold in the eye. The Huscarls were better fighters than the Normans. They lost the right of conquest as they failed to colonise with their small numbers and we did get the last laugh by invading France and Normandy at least


Winning is winning. A fair fight is a stupid fight, the best one is a rigged one.

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Postby Iyanden » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:43 am

Liriena wrote:
Iyanden wrote:Their corrupt globalist aristocracy still plague the nation and the UK can never call its self a democracy until they go and lose their titles and I guess I would be more sympathetic to my ancestors side(well half of them)

Wut?

Also, you missed the triple parenthesis around "globalist"? ;3

You know the corrupt house of lords the ones trying to block brexit and force their corrupt globalist agenda on the country and the world

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Iyanden wrote:
Liriena wrote:Wut?

Also, you missed the triple parenthesis around "globalist"? ;3

You know the corrupt house of lords the ones trying to block brexit and force their corrupt globalist agenda on the country and the world

Ah, yes, the "globalist" agenda that's totally not just the PC form of "muh illuminati NWO jews" conspiracy theory.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:46 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Iyanden wrote:They "won" like cowards by attacking during an Viking invasion then sniping Harold in the eye. The Huscarls were better fighters than the Normans. They lost the right of conquest as they failed to colonise with their small numbers and we did get the last laugh by invading France and Normandy at least


Winning is winning. A fair fight is a stupid fight, the best one is a rigged one.

Wu Zetian did nothing wrong!
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Postby Iyanden » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:48 am

Liriena wrote:
Iyanden wrote:You know the corrupt house of lords the ones trying to block brexit and force their corrupt globalist agenda on the country and the world

Ah, yes, the "globalist" agenda that's totally not just the PC form of "muh illuminati NWO jews" conspiracy theory.

The Illuminati and the NWO are pure evil and as for Jews they are plenty of non globalist Jews and they are globalist gentiles like Jeremy Corbin and Merkel and Trudeau and Bush and Obama and killary and I never said anything about the Jews here

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Postby Liriena » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:50 am

Iyanden wrote:
Liriena wrote:Ah, yes, the "globalist" agenda that's totally not just the PC form of "muh illuminati NWO jews" conspiracy theory.

The Illuminati and the NWO are pure evil and as for Jews they are plenty of non globalist Jews and they are globalist gentiles like Jeremy Corbin and Merkel and Trudeau and Bush and Obama and killary and I never said anything about the Jews here

:rofl:

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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:50 am

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Winning is winning. A fair fight is a stupid fight, the best one is a rigged one.

Wu Zetian did nothing wrong!


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