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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:01 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:Really? Good luck finding a crime-ridden ghetto in South Korea. Wait..you can't.

Are you fucking joking me right now?

Am I on candid camera or some shit?
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:01 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Really? Good luck finding a crime-ridden ghetto in South Korea. Wait..you can't.

Are you fucking joking me right now?

Am I on candid camera or some shit?

What's up? Reality is fucking reality.

Problems need to be fucking fixed or they will get worse.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:02 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:Really? Good luck finding a crime-ridden ghetto in South Korea. Wait..you can't. Poverty does not have to cause this problem.

Have you ever actually been to South Korea?
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:03 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:You don't know what jihad is either huh. And broken neighborhoods happen across all demographics.

Really? Good luck finding a crime-ridden ghetto in South Korea. Wait..you can't. Poverty does not have to cause this problem.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=South+Korean+slums

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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:03 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Really? Good luck finding a crime-ridden ghetto in South Korea. Wait..you can't. Poverty does not have to cause this problem.

Have you ever actually been to South Korea?

Nope. But I'm confident that Koreans will prove me right.
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:04 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Really? Good luck finding a crime-ridden ghetto in South Korea. Wait..you can't. Poverty does not have to cause this problem.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=South+Korean+slums

Poor neighborhood != ghetto
You can have poor people without having the kind of violent crime common in the States.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:04 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:You don't know what jihad is either huh. And broken neighborhoods happen across all demographics.

Really? Good luck finding a crime-ridden ghetto in South Korea. Wait..you can't. Poverty does not have to cause this problem.

Furthermore the ghetto problem isn't racial in nature. It is just socioeconomic and needs to be fixed.

Yeah I know there are two jihads.

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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:04 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Really? Good luck finding a crime-ridden ghetto in South Korea. Wait..you can't. Poverty does not have to cause this problem.

Furthermore the ghetto problem isn't racial in nature. It is just socioeconomic and needs to be fixed.

Yeah I know there are two jihads.

To clarify so you won't twist what jihad is:
1: Jihad of the soul (keeping to Allah [SWT])
2: Military jihad (which does not include the likes of Muslim terrorists)

I'm talking about jihad2
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:05 pm

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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Have you ever actually been to South Korea?

Nope. But I'm confident that Koreans will prove me right.

Well, I have. It's not the utopia that a great many people would make it out to be. Same with Japan. The difference with these countries and the US is that there, less crimes are reported. That doesn't mean they don't happen.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:05 pm

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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Have you ever actually been to South Korea?

Nope. But I'm confident that Koreans will prove me right.

How very... irrational.
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:06 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Nope. But I'm confident that Koreans will prove me right.

Well, I have. It's not the utopia that a great many people would make it out to be. Same with Japan. The difference with these countries and the US is that there, less crimes are reported. That doesn't mean they don't happen.

Sure. But they are still much safer than the States. Tokyo at night isn't a war zone.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:06 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:

Poor neighborhood != ghetto
You can have poor people without having the sort of violent crime.

Only in the sense that they're typically not ethnically diverse. Either way, a slum still fits the definition of "broken neighbourhood" that you made in your initial point.
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San Lumen wrote:No Islam has nothing to do with it.

It is a part of it. The more people justify absurd behaviors with tolerance the more people hate tolerance itself. To have true tolerance we must have some standards. Eating kebabs or drinking Turkish coffee is good culture while jihad is not. European architecture being different from Northeast Asian architecture is legitimate diversity while completely broken neighborhoods are what they are, something broken that needs to be fixed.

Diversity should only apply to what is good, not what is awful. If A and B are both awesome but are different that's called diversity. If A is good but B is awful then A is good and B is awful.

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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:06 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Nope. But I'm confident that Koreans will prove me right.

How very... irrational.

Not really because I have been to nations similar to South Korea.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:07 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Well, I have. It's not the utopia that a great many people would make it out to be. Same with Japan. The difference with these countries and the US is that there, less crimes are reported. That doesn't mean they don't happen.

Sure. But they are still much safer than the States. Tokyo at night isn't a war zone.

And the US is? XD
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:08 pm

Alvecia wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Poor neighborhood != ghetto
You can have poor people without having the sort of violent crime.

Only in the sense that they're typically not ethnically diverse. Either way, a slum still fits the definition of "broken neighbourhood" that you made in your initial point.
Katzenstaat wrote:It is a part of it. The more people justify absurd behaviors with tolerance the more people hate tolerance itself. To have true tolerance we must have some standards. Eating kebabs or drinking Turkish coffee is good culture while jihad is not. European architecture being different from Northeast Asian architecture is legitimate diversity while completely broken neighborhoods are what they are, something broken that needs to be fixed.

Diversity should only apply to what is good, not what is awful. If A and B are both awesome but are different that's called diversity. If A is good but B is awful then A is good and B is awful.


LOL no. The actual facts are much more uncomfortable than the one segregationists advocate for (i.e. as long as people are separate there can be no ghettos). Singapore is diverse but it isn't fucked up either. There are places that are less diverse and much more fucked up.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:09 pm

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Alvecia wrote:Only in the sense that they're typically not ethnically diverse. Either way, a slum still fits the definition of "broken neighbourhood" that you made in your initial point.


LOL no. The actual facts are much more uncomfortable than the one segregationists advocate for (i.e. as long as people are separate there can be no ghettos). Singapore is diverse but it isn't fucked up either. There are places that are less diverse and much more fucked up.

I repeat what I've said before: that's because Singapore is far stricter and brutal in how they mete out justice. You ever been caned?
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:09 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Sure. But they are still much safer than the States. Tokyo at night isn't a war zone.

And the US is? XD

LOL if you are an Arab, Iranian or Turk who live in the suburbs then you are right......
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:09 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:To clarify so you won't twist what jihad is:
1: Jihad of the soul (keeping to Allah [SWT])
2: Military jihad (which does not include the likes of Muslim terrorists)

I'm talking about jihad2

Which isn't bad. The terrorists who claim to correctly follow Al-Islam are murdering people for no reason.
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:10 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:
LOL no. The actual facts are much more uncomfortable than the one segregationists advocate for (i.e. as long as people are separate there can be no ghettos). Singapore is diverse but it isn't fucked up either. There are places that are less diverse and much more fucked up.

I repeat what I've said before: that's because Singapore is far stricter and brutal in how they mete out justice. You ever been caned?

LOL. What about Japan? Have you ever seen any place in which ethnic Japanese aren't respectable?
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:12 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Sure. But they are still much safer than the States. Tokyo at night isn't a war zone.

And the US is? XD

t. someone who has never actually walked the streets of DC, Pittsburgh, or Baltimore at night.

Not Chicago though. That really is a bad idea I've been led to understand.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:12 pm

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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I repeat what I've said before: that's because Singapore is far stricter and brutal in how they mete out justice. You ever been caned?

LOL. What about Japan?

Do you not know about the yakuza? The groping on subways?
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:13 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:And the US is? XD

t. someone who has never actually walked the streets of DC, Pittsburgh, or Baltimore at night.

Not Chicago though. That really is a bad idea I've been led to understand.

Middle Easterners who live in the States are usually pretty good. They work hard, study and earn money. Hence they mostly have no idea about the ghetto problem.
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:14 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:LOL. What about Japan?

Do you not know about the yakuza? The groping on subways?

Of course the Yakuza exists. How many deaths they cause to ordinary Japanese every year?
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:14 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:And the US is? XD

t. someone who has never actually walked the streets of DC, Pittsburgh, or Baltimore at night.

Not Chicago though. That really is a bad idea I've been led to understand.

I've walked in LA, Miami, and NYC at night. I grew up in a "slum" in Miami. I can almost guarantee that the slums in the US are basically comparable to those in the ROK.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:15 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:
LOL no. The actual facts are much more uncomfortable than the one segregationists advocate for (i.e. as long as people are separate there can be no ghettos). Singapore is diverse but it isn't fucked up either. There are places that are less diverse and much more fucked up.

I repeat what I've said before: that's because Singapore is far stricter and brutal in how they mete out justice. You ever been caned?

Does Singapore have Shari'ah (or a variant thereof)?
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This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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