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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:32 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:So, you are more likely to believe in a concept like luck than Allah? Why?

I actually am Christian, but that just gives me more reason too believe in the processes that Christianity and Islam discovered.

Some of those processes, didn't really involve God, and the Church was completely accepting of that fact. (Until a certain point...)

Everything involves God, dude/dudette XD That's kind of one of the main things about God.
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:32 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
New haven america wrote:I actually am Christian, but that just gives me more reason too believe in the processes that Christianity and Islam discovered.

Some of those processes, didn't really involve God, and the Church was completely accepting of that fact. (Until a certain point...)

Everything involves God, dude/dudette XD That's kind of one of the main things about God.

Why?
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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:33 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
New haven america wrote:I actually am Christian, but that just gives me more reason too believe in the processes that Christianity and Islam discovered.

Some of those processes, didn't really involve God, and the Church was completely accepting of that fact. (Until a certain point...)

Everything involves God, dude/dudette XD That's kind of one of the main things about God.

The Islamic scholars during the Golden Age would be very annoyed with you right now.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:35 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
New haven america wrote:I actually am Christian, but that just gives me more reason too believe in the processes that Christianity and Islam discovered.

Some of those processes, didn't really involve God, and the Church was completely accepting of that fact. (Until a certain point...)

Everything involves God, dude/dudette XD That's kind of one of the main things about God.

Well could we get back on topic. The number of threadjacks are ridiculous at this point

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:37 pm

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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Everything involves God, dude/dudette XD That's kind of one of the main things about God.

The Islamic scholars during the Golden Age would be very annoyed with you right now.

They would? Islam is pretty clear in the fact that God created everything and is the sustainer.

[All] praise is [due] to Allah , Creator of the heavens and the earth, [who] made the angels messengers having wings, two or three or four. He increases in creation what He wills. Indeed, Allah is over all things competent.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Everything involves God, dude/dudette XD That's kind of one of the main things about God.

Well could we get back on topic. The number of threadjacks are ridiculous at this point

Alright. I'm done. I apologize, Lumen. Take a kebab to make up for it.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:41 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Well could we get back on topic. The number of threadjacks are ridiculous at this point

Alright. I'm done. I apologize, Lumen. Take a kebab to make up for it.

Thank you for the kebab. Multiculturalism and diversity are the probably par of the reason we have them in the Western world.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Alright. I'm done. I apologize, Lumen. Take a kebab to make up for it.

Thank you for the kebab. Multiculturalism and diversity are the probably par of the reason we have them in the Western world.

And did you know that multiculturalism and diversity are cause by scientific processes?

Diversity specifically.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:42 pm

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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Alright. I'm done. I apologize, Lumen. Take a kebab to make up for it.

Thank you for the kebab. Multiculturalism and diversity are the probably par of the reason we have them in the Western world.

Kebabs are great. Aren't kebabs great? Nothing like a good Iranian kabab torsh. You ever had one of them? So fucking good.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:42 pm

New haven america wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Thank you for the kebab. Multiculturalism and diversity are the probably par of the reason we have them in the Western world.

And did you know that multiculturalism and diversity are cause by scientific processes?

Diversity specifically.

How so?

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:43 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Thank you for the kebab. Multiculturalism and diversity are the probably part of the reason we have them in the Western world.

Kebabs are great. Aren't kebabs great? Nothing like a good Iranian kabab torsh. You ever had one of them? So fucking good.

Yes i have. They are delicious. I like the Afghani variety too

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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
New haven america wrote:And did you know that multiculturalism and diversity are cause by scientific processes?

Diversity specifically.

How so?

Well, without evolution we wouldn't have a diverse population, would we?
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:46 pm

San Lumen wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Kebabs are great. Aren't kebabs great? Nothing like a good Iranian kabab torsh. You ever had one of them? So fucking good.

Yes i have. They are delicious. I like the Afghani variety too

Imo, Gilan produces some of the best food. But that's speak as a son of a Gilaki :P
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:47 pm

New haven america wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How so?

Well, without evolution we wouldn't have a diverse population, would we?

Yes that is very true. Skin color has a lot to do with the intensity of the Sun where one is. Hence why people from areas of South America or Africa or Southeast Asia are darker.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well, without evolution we wouldn't have a diverse population, would we?

Yes that is very true. Skin color has a lot to do with the intensity of the Sun where one is. Hence why people from areas of South America or Africa or Southeast Asia are darker.

That beautiful melanin
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:52 pm

New haven america wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How so?

Well, without evolution we wouldn't have a diverse population, would we?

Genetic diversity is advantageous to the continuation of a species. Even nature thinks diversity is a good thing.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:52 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yes that is very true. Skin color has a lot to do with the intensity of the Sun where one is. Hence why people from areas of South America or Africa or Southeast Asia are darker.

That beautiful melanin

yes it is beautiful.

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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:52 pm

Why is there so much backlash over diversity-related issues? One key reason is Islamism. Eradication of Islamism promotes coexistence, mutual respect and prosperity whether or not people want to live together.

In the end nobody really cares about whether Japan and Germany should be separate. As long as people get along, do business, are sufficiently rich and do science who cares? :-)
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:53 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:Why is there so much backlash over diversity-related issues? One key reason is Islamism.

No Islam has nothing to do with it.

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Postby Albrenia » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:54 pm

Humans are naturally distrusting of groups which they identify as 'others'. Comes from being social based animals, I guess.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:54 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:Why is there so much backlash over diversity-related issues? One key reason is Islamism.

Diversity-related issues have existed long before Islamism was cool.
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Why is there so much backlash over diversity-related issues? One key reason is Islamism.

No Islam has nothing to do with it.

It is a part of it. The more people justify absurd behaviors with tolerance the more people hate tolerance itself. To have true tolerance we must have some standards. Eating kebabs or drinking Turkish coffee is good culture while jihad is not. European architecture being different from Northeast Asian architecture is legitimate diversity while completely broken neighborhoods are what they are, something broken that needs to be fixed.

Diversity should only apply to what is good, not what is awful. If A and B are both awesome but are different that's called diversity. If A is good but B is awful then A is good and B is awful.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:58 pm

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San Lumen wrote:No Islam has nothing to do with it.

It is a part of it. The more people justify absurd behaviors with tolerance the more people hate tolerance itself. To have true tolerance we must have some standards. Eating kebabs or drinking Turkish coffee is good culture while jihad is not. European architecture being different from Northeast Asian architecture is legitimate diversity while completely broken neighborhoods are what they are, something broken that needs to be fixed.

Diversity should only apply to what is good, not what is awful.

You don't know what jihad is either huh. And broken neighborhoods happen across all demographics.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:59 pm

Katzenstaat wrote:jihad is not.

But what's wrong with jihad? Or do you mean al-jihad al-akbar? If so, when applied as it is supposed to be, what's so wrong with that? Ismailis are instructed to only use al-jihad al-akbar as a last resort and in self-defense.
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Postby Katzenstaat » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:59 pm

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Katzenstaat wrote:It is a part of it. The more people justify absurd behaviors with tolerance the more people hate tolerance itself. To have true tolerance we must have some standards. Eating kebabs or drinking Turkish coffee is good culture while jihad is not. European architecture being different from Northeast Asian architecture is legitimate diversity while completely broken neighborhoods are what they are, something broken that needs to be fixed.

Diversity should only apply to what is good, not what is awful.

You don't know what jihad is either huh. And broken neighborhoods happen across all demographics.

Really? Good luck finding a crime-ridden ghetto in South Korea. Wait..you can't. Poverty does not have to cause this problem.

Furthermore the ghetto problem isn't racial in nature. It is just socioeconomic and needs to be fixed.

Yeah I know there are two jihads.
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