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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:46 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Katzenstaat wrote:Does everything have to be created?

Yo no entiendo.

It's a very simple question.
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Postby War Gears » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:46 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:someone had to make those aliens.


No, they didn't. Evolution could've well taken care of that.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:48 pm

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:someone had to make those aliens.


No, they didn't. Evolution could've well taken care of that.

And what controls evolution?
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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:50 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
War Gears wrote:
No, they didn't. Evolution could've well taken care of that.

And what controls evolution?

The biological need to adapt to one's environment and surroundings.

I know you're trying to find that "Ahah!" point, but when the person who discovered evolution happened to also be a clergyman, yeah, you're gonna have some trouble...
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Postby Sovaal » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:51 pm

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No, they didn't. Evolution could've well taken care of that.

And what controls evolution?

Environmental factors.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:52 pm

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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:And what controls evolution?

The biological need to adapt to one's environment and surroundings.

I know you're trying to find that "Ahah!" point, but when the person who discovered evolution happened to also be a clergyman, yeah, you're gonna have some trouble...

That wasn't what I am asking. There was the need to change, but what then made that organism change?
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:53 pm

Sovaal wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:And what controls evolution?

Environmental factors.

I didn't ask what causes evolution and adaptation. I asked what controls it. What causes it to happen?
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Postby War Gears » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:53 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
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No, they didn't. Evolution could've well taken care of that.

And what controls evolution?


Evolution is a change in inherited characteristics, there is not something consciously "controlling" it. If there were, we would have to wonder about the intelligibility of such a being because of the numerous cruel and useless mutations which have occurred and contributed nothing.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:55 pm

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United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:And what controls evolution?


Evolution is a change in inherited characteristics, there is not something consciously "controlling" it. If there were, we would have to wonder about the intelligibility of such a being because of the numerous cruel and useless mutations which have occurred and contributed nothing.

Contributed nothing? Death is an important and required part of life.
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Postby War Gears » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:58 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
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Evolution is a change in inherited characteristics, there is not something consciously "controlling" it. If there were, we would have to wonder about the intelligibility of such a being because of the numerous cruel and useless mutations which have occurred and contributed nothing.

Contributed nothing? Death is an important and required part of life.


Down Syndrome isn't.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:59 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
New haven america wrote:The biological need to adapt to one's environment and surroundings.

I know you're trying to find that "Ahah!" point, but when the person who discovered evolution happened to also be a clergyman, yeah, you're gonna have some trouble...

That wasn't what I am asking. There was the need to change, but what then made that organism change?

The need to adapt to one's environment and surroundings, I already told you this.

Let's for example, look at whales. A few 10-20 mil. years ago, what became whales used to be a smaller (3-5 ft long/tall) animal, that look more akin to rodents than anything else. Now, as this animal started spending more time in water, those who did best in water reproduced, while those who didn't died off (Nature is not very forgiving), and over millions of years, those animals who did best in water passed on their genes and their children slowly started taking on more and more fish/aquatic-like features, so over those 10-20 million years (Maybe even more) those small rodent like creatures became the largest animal in Earth's history.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:00 pm

War Gears wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Contributed nothing? Death is an important and required part of life.


Down Syndrome isn't.

It isn't? People with Down's Syndrome tend to not reproduce. It's just another way of keeping the population down. As is every other disease, ailment, malady, etc.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:00 pm

Sovaal wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:And what controls evolution?

Environmental factors.

And who made those?
New haven america wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:And what controls evolution?

The biological need to adapt to one's environment and surroundings.

And who made those?
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Postby Tekeristan » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:01 pm

Can we get back to the subject please?

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:01 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:That wasn't what I am asking. There was the need to change, but what then made that organism change?

The need to adapt to one's environment and surroundings, I already told you this.

Let's for example, look at whales. A few 10-20 mil. years ago, what became whales used to be a smaller (3-5 ft long/tall) animal, that look more akin to rodents than anything else. Now, as this animal started spending more time in water, those who did best in water reproduced, while hose who didn't died off, and over millions of years, those animals who did best in water passed on their genes and their children slowly started taking on more and more fish/aquatic-like features, so over those 10-20 million years (Maybe even more) those small rodent like creatures became the largest animal in Earth's history.

What gave the animals who had the genes to perform well in water the genes to perform well in water?
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:02 pm

Tekeristan wrote:Can we get back to the subject please?

Eh. True. It got a bit boring without someone screaming about the brown menace.
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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:03 pm

Tekeristan wrote:Can we get back to the subject please?

Diversity has to do with biological processes.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:03 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
War Gears wrote:
Down Syndrome isn't.

It isn't? People with Down's Syndrome tend to not reproduce. It's just another way of keeping the population down. As is every other disease, ailment, malady, etc.

Also
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:03 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Environmental factors.

And who made those?
New haven america wrote:The biological need to adapt to one's environment and surroundings.

And who made those?

Chemistry.

All life is literally a giant pile of chemicals.
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Postby Tekeristan » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:04 pm

Just take it to PM's. No one knows fur sur. Ahhhh

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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:04 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
New haven america wrote:The need to adapt to one's environment and surroundings, I already told you this.

Let's for example, look at whales. A few 10-20 mil. years ago, what became whales used to be a smaller (3-5 ft long/tall) animal, that look more akin to rodents than anything else. Now, as this animal started spending more time in water, those who did best in water reproduced, while hose who didn't died off, and over millions of years, those animals who did best in water passed on their genes and their children slowly started taking on more and more fish/aquatic-like features, so over those 10-20 million years (Maybe even more) those small rodent like creatures became the largest animal in Earth's history.

What gave the animals who had the genes to perform well in water the genes to perform well in water?

Nothing, they either adapted the best they could, or they got killed off.

The ones that adapted just got lucky.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:05 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Tekeristan wrote:Can we get back to the subject please?

Eh. True. It got a bit boring without someone screaming about the brown menace.

By far I'd rather have this. The 'brown menace' stuff is effing irritating.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:05 pm

New haven america wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:What gave the animals who had the genes to perform well in water the genes to perform well in water?

Nothing, they either adapted the best they could, or they got killed off.

The one's that adapted just got lucky.

So, those genes and the abnormalities that gave those animals the advantage just appeared?
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:06 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:And who made those?

And who made those?

Chemistry.

All life is literally a giant pile of chemicals.

Which was made by...?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby New haven america » Mon Oct 30, 2017 2:07 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
New haven america wrote:Nothing, they either adapted the best they could, or they got killed off.

The one's that adapted just got lucky.

So, those genes and the abnormalities that gave those animals the advantage just appeared?

No, they developed over millions upon millions of years.

However, even still, if they couldn't adapt as fast or faster then the others around them, they would most likely die.
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