Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[San Lumen]

What are you talking about?

Our immigration laws from the 1870s to the 1960s literally barred half the world from entering.

Well thats flat out wrong.

[Trumptonium]

Our immigration laws from the 1870s to the 1960s literally barred half the world from entering.

Well thats flat out wrong.

Do you have a fetish for being incorrect and not backing anything up with evidence?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Well thats flat out wrong.

Do you have a fetish for being incorrect and not backing anything up with evidence?

It's an opinion.

[Trumptonium]

Do you have a fetish for being incorrect and not backing anything up with evidence?

It's an opinion.

...how can you have an opinion on whether a certain proportion of the world has been barred from entry?

This is not something to have an opinion on. This is a statement of fact. You can have an opinion on whether it should have happened or not, not whether it happened. Unless you're a cringy history revisionist.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

It's an opinion.

...how can you have an opinion on whether a certain proportion of the world has been barred from entry?

This is not something to have an opinion on. This is a statement of fact. You can have an opinion on whether it should have happened or not, not whether it happened. Unless you're a cringy history revisionist.

San Lumen said "That's flat out wrong", which is an opinion.

[Trumptonium]

...how can you have an opinion on whether a certain proportion of the world has been barred from entry?

This is not something to have an opinion on. This is a statement of fact. You can have an opinion on whether it should have happened or not, not whether it happened. Unless you're a cringy history revisionist.

San Lumen said "That's flat out wrong", which is an opinion.

Are you taking the piss or are you unable to understand what that sentence means?

[Alvecia]

...how can you have an opinion on whether a certain proportion of the world has been barred from entry?

This is not something to have an opinion on. This is a statement of fact. You can have an opinion on whether it should have happened or not, not whether it happened. Unless you're a cringy history revisionist.

San Lumen said "That's flat out wrong", which is an opinion.

"That's wrong" is a statement of fact.
"I think that's wrong" would be a statement of opinion.

[The Sauganash Union]

Our immigration laws from the 1870s to the 1960s literally barred half the world from entering.

Well thats flat out wrong.

r u serious

[San Lumen]

Well thats flat out wrong.

Do you have a fetish for being incorrect and not backing anything up with evidence?

I was not saying your facts were wrong. I was saying that the immigration laws were wrong to have barred half the world from entering.

[Proctopeo]

Do you have a fetish for being incorrect and not backing anything up with evidence?

I was not saying your facts were wrong. I was saying that the immigration laws were wrong to have barred half the world from entering.

You need better wording.

[Socialist Czechia]

So Germans now in practice found out, that not many migrants will go back voluntarily and that PC crusaders stands above law and judges. That half of million guys totally won't go anywhere no matter how courts or officials decided.

Well done folks. Now our government have more ammo against utopia with 'quotas'.

Tell me guys how exactly Krauts or Pastas imagine it will work? Like, give us 100 000 Afghan guys and with opened borders and everything, how long they will remain there?
Two hours?
Did no one in Berlin or Rome noticed how stupid this is?

[San Lumen]

So Germans now in practice found out, that not many migrants will go back voluntarily and that PC crusaders stands above law and judges. That half of million guys totally won't go anywhere no matter how courts or officials decided.

Well done folks. Now our government have more ammo against utopia with 'quotas'.

Tell me guys how exactly Krauts or Pastas imagine it will work? Like, give us 100 000 Afghan guys and with opened borders and everything, how long they will remain there?
Two hours?
Did no one in Berlin or Rome noticed how stupid this is?

migrants usually don't go back to their country of origin. And whats a Kraut and Pasta?

[Socialist Czechia]

I was asking first: if Visegrad 4 is criticised to be xenophobic and disloyal to rest of the Europe, explain to me first, what leads Berlin or Rome to conclusion that quotas and relocated immigrants throughout Europe would solve the problem?

It's not about 'sharing is caring', it's about utter idiocy to expect Afghans, Libyans or Syrians to be sent to Poland, Hungary or Slovakia and stay here.

How? Should we built prison camps? Because, I must write again, borders are pretty much open, so send us 100 000 Afghans, and before we'll find them jobs, they will ran back to Germany anyway

[San Lumen]

I was asking first: if Visegrad 4 is criticised to be xenophobic and disloyal to rest of the Europe, explain to me first, what leads Berlin or Rome to conclusion that quotas and relocated immigrants throughout Europe would solve the problem?

It's not about 'sharing is caring', it's about utter idiocy to expect Afghans, Libyans or Syrians to be sent to Poland, Hungary or Slovakia and stay here.

How? Should we built prison camps? Because, I must write again, borders are pretty much open, so send us 100 000 Afghans, and before we'll find them jobs, they will ran back to Germany anyway

Quotas and relocation isn't the answer. No one should be forced to reside anywhere. They are going to Germany because there is more opportunity there.

And prison camps? Go ask George Takai how wonderful that was.

[Socialist Czechia]

So you agree, that the serious conversation in the EU about migrants can start only there?
After Germany, Italy and other 'refugee flooded' places will admit that even if Poles or Czechs loyally agreed to share it more, it's pointless effort?

Migrants will move willingly, only when and if wages in CZ or PL will reach the German or French ones.
So, never.




Or cancel Schengen and allow us all to have Border Guards and barbed wires again. Quite simple choices.

[The Chinese Peoples Republic]

I'm perfectly fine with diversity as long as it's not forced or used as a tool to acclaim non-racists as racists for not having enough of one certain race around at all times or some other pointless nonsense. Multiculturalism though can be done without as it's simply multiple cultures in my eyes fighting over dominance for what they think to be best.

[San Lumen]

I'm perfectly fine with diversity as long as it's not forced or used as a tool to acclaim non-racists as racists for not having enough of one certain race around at all times or some other pointless nonsense. Multiculturalism though can be done without as it's simply multiple cultures in my eyes fighting over dominance for what they think to be best.

How would diversity be forced? And thats not what multiculturalism is. I do agree though sometimes racism is thrown around at the wrong times

[Achaea-Arcadia]

a BIT of diversity never hurt anyone, but multiculturalism is an absolute no no. I won't ruin my beautiful culture to jump around the fire naked

[San Lumen]

a BIT of diversity never hurt anyone, but multiculturalism is an absolute no no. I won't ruin my beautiful culture to jump around the fire naked

Why is it a no no? How does it hurt your culture?

[The Rich Port]

... And? Nowhere near a shithole compared to the other cities.

The murder rate of St. Louis is TEN times the national average.

I suck at math.

._.

Cool, they can be shitholes together.

Sick burn, dood.

... What the fuck is the point of you.

Did a Jersey girl get spray tan on your hot dog or something?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I won't ruin my beautiful culture to jump around the fire naked

1: Then don't.
2: What country do you live in?

[San Lumen]

I won't ruin my beautiful culture to jump around the fire naked

1: Then don't.
2: What country do you live in?

Id love to know the answer to the second question as well

[Altorthfnara]

Only when sufficient integration happens. A nation is made up of it's people, so if you import millions of people from an area with a vastly different culture, your nation changes.

[San Lumen]

Only when sufficient integration happens. A nation is made up of it's people, so if you import millions of people from an area with a vastly different culture, your nation changes.

How much integration are we talking?

[The Parkus Empire]

Only when sufficient integration happens. A nation is made up of it's people, so if you import millions of people from an area with a vastly different culture, your nation changes.

How much integration are we talking?

Apple computer, wearing Nike. Folk music and cuisine has to go. That sort of thing.