Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[Trotskylvania]

Multiculturalism isn't necessarily bad in melting pot countries such as the U.S, Canada or other nations without an actual monolithic identity but it is however utter cancer for Nation-States for it rot the very pillar upon which those countries are built.
Even in the said first countries, it shouldn't be encouraged for it only leads to self-segregation and communautarisme no matter where it is applied.

Such nation-states have always had large ethnic minorities in them, and immensely diverse regional variations in culture.

It wasn't until the early 1900s that a majority of people in France spoke the official Parisian French as a first language. Breton, Occitan, and other Romance dialects were once widely spoken throughout the country. To this day, speaking of single monolithic French culture is impossible.

[Fostoria]

The United States is built on multiple cultures and it has survived for hundreds of years.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Multiculturalism isn't necessarily bad in melting pot countries such as the U.S, Canada or other nations without an actual monolithic identity but it is however utter cancer for Nation-States for it rot the very pillar upon which those countries are built.
Even in the said first countries, it shouldn't be encouraged for it only leads to self-segregation and communautarisme no matter where it is applied.

Such nation-states have always had large ethnic minorities in them, and immensely diverse regional variations in culture.

It wasn't until the early 1900s that a majority of people in France spoke the official Parisian French as a first language. Breton, Occitan, and other Romance dialects were once widely spoken throughout the country. To this day, speaking of single monolithic French culture is impossible.

FRENCH BTFO'd

Keep up the good work! The French Republic was not a nationstate, it was an Empire!

[Parhe]

Furthermore everyone is a descendent of immigrants in some way no matter how far back you go. Unless you are from certain areas in Asia or the Middle East or Africa you are technically an immigrant.

I'm not understanding what you mean by the sentence here. Isn't everyone an immigrant? That or nearly every country can have people who potentially are not the descendant of immigrants/are not immigrants themselves?

[Conserative Morality]

I don't believe in multiculturalism. I believe in melting pot assimilation. All are welcome. All will be absorbed.

[San Lumen]

I prefer assimilation into the majority culture. Too much diversity can be dangerous, as everyone is in their own group rather than the citizenry collective.

How much assimilation are we talking? Im also not follow your logic as to how its dangerous.

[Aelex]

Such nation-states have always had large ethnic minorities in them, and immensely diverse regional variations in culture.

It wasn't until the early 1900s that a majority of people in France spoke the official Parisian French as a first language. Breton, Occitan, and other Romance dialects were once widely spoken throughout the country. To this day, speaking of single monolithic French culture is impossible.

And it's precisely because it was a problem that we Vergonha-ed them, thoroughly erasing their regional identity and language to actually assimilate them into being Français. This day, (and actually since the early '20) a single monolithic French culture has been achieved.

[Rei Valente]

A bad thing, homogeneous societies work much better in my opinion.

Why? What is wrong with someone from another country coming to yours for a better life and getting a job and becoming a citizen?

From what I've experienced, the people coming to my country 'for a better life' have significant higher crime rates and welfare usage. They isolate themselves in certain parts of the cities where they speak their own languages and follow their own rules because the police, firemen and paramedics at times have a hard time getting into those areas due to harassment such as getting thrown stones at them.

[Grinning Dragon]

I don't believe in multiculturalism. I believe in melting pot assimilation. All are welcome. All will be absorbed.

Resistance is futile.

[Fostoria]

I prefer assimilation into the majority culture. Too much diversity can be dangerous, as everyone is in their own group rather than the citizenry collective.

How much assimilation are we talking? Im also not follow your logic as to how its dangerous.

He's probably saying that having what were originally ethnic minorities outnumber the original ethnic majority of a country could be problematic.

[The Islands of Versilia]

I prefer assimilation into the majority culture. Too much diversity can be dangerous, as everyone is in their own group rather than the citizenry collective.

How much assimilation are we talking? Im also not follow your logic as to how its dangerous.

Taking in the good parts of the immigrants' cultures and removing the bad parts.
Islamic teachings would be removed from Western countries in assimilation of Arabic immigrants, but other pieces of their culture proven to be morally good in the eyes of the majority will survive.

[San Lumen]

Furthermore everyone is a descendent of immigrants in some way no matter how far back you go. Unless you are from certain areas in Asia or the Middle East or Africa you are technically an immigrant.

I'm not understanding what you mean by the sentence here. Isn't everyone an immigrant? That or nearly every country can have people who potentially are not the descendant of immigrants/are not immigrants themselves?

It really depends on how you look at it and what school of thought you subscribe to regarding the origins of humanity.

[The Islands of Versilia]

How much assimilation are we talking? Im also not follow your logic as to how its dangerous.

He's probably saying that having what were originally ethnic minorities outnumber the original ethnic majority of a country could be problematic.

Yes.

[Fostoria]

How much assimilation are we talking? Im also not follow your logic as to how its dangerous.

Taking in the good parts of the immigrants' cultures and removing the bad parts.
Islamic teachings would be removed from Western countries in assimilation of Arabic immigrants, but other pieces of their culture proven to be morally good in the eyes of the majority will survive.

Yep.

[Aelex]

FRENCH BTFO'd

Keep up the good work! The French Republic was not a nationstate, it was an Empire!

Hardly given most of it is bullshit.

And we always were a culturally imperialist Empire, a thing we have always remained even after officially losing our Empire. We never tolerated others culture but always worked toward assimilating all to our own.

[Fostoria]

I'm just sick of the refugees from the Middle East coming to Europe and acting like they own the place. Most of those "refugees" are NOT the kind of immigrants you want.

[Dumb Ideologies]

When a large section of a particular minority advocates treating women, the LGBT community and anyone who doesn't share their belief system as half-persons at best and at worst as non-humans to be enslaved, stoned, murdered and thrown off buildings what you have is a net loss of both diversity and community safety when you add more of said minority.

There should also be no special allowances for refugees. If your values are fundamentally opposed to those of the country you want to go to you should not get to pass through safe neighbouring countries which do have similar values and then through a half-dozen also safe countries and then claim to not to be an economic migrant, honest guv.

[Fostoria]

When a large section of a particular minority advocates treating women, the LGBT community and anyone who doesn't share their belief system as half-persons at best and at worst as non-humans to be enslaved, stoned, murdered and thrown off buildings what you have is a net loss of both diversity and community safety.

There should also be no special allowances for refugees. If your values are fundamentally opposed to those of the country you want to go to you should not get to pass through safe neighbouring countries which do have similar values and then through a half-dozen also safe countries and then claim to not to be an economic migrant, honest guv.

Exactly.

[The Emerald Legion]

Mass immigration is a subversion of democracy.

[San Lumen]

Why? What is wrong with someone from another country coming to yours for a better life and getting a job and becoming a citizen?

From what I've experienced, the people coming to my country 'for a better life' have significant higher crime rates and welfare usage. They isolate themselves in certain parts of the cities where they speak their own languages and follow their own rules because the police, firemen and paramedics at times have a hard time getting into those areas due to harassment such as getting thrown stones at them.

That may be in certain areas and I certainly dont condone harassing police and firemen or paramedics. Such behavior is unacceptable. That doesnt mean that all immigrants believe that and all of them dont integrate well.

[Fostoria]

Mass immigration is a subversion of democracy.

That is also true. That was very visible when you looked at southern Texas in the 2016 U.S. election.

[Conserative Morality]

Mass immigration is a subversion of democracy.

I know. America is just the worst.

[Trotskylvania]

Such nation-states have always had large ethnic minorities in them, and immensely diverse regional variations in culture.

It wasn't until the early 1900s that a majority of people in France spoke the official Parisian French as a first language. Breton, Occitan, and other Romance dialects were once widely spoken throughout the country. To this day, speaking of single monolithic French culture is impossible.

And it's precisely because it was a problem that we Vergonha-ed them, thoroughly erasing their regional identity and language to actually assimilate them into being Français. This day, (and actually since the early '20) a single monolithic French culture has been achieved.

Breton and Occitan still exist. Regional identity still exists in France. All the murderous violence failed to completely erase regional differences in culture, rooted in local histories going back over a thousand years.

[The East Marches II]

Mass immigration is a subversion of democracy.

I know. America is just the worst.

>importing Catholics who by nature have to hate our Republic

You really are the worst CM

[Conserative Morality]

That is also true. That was very visible when you looked at southern Texas in the 2016 U.S. election.

"People who live near potential immigrants and are exposed to them are less likely to be raging xenophobes shocker"