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Postby San Lumen » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:17 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
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but some races are better at different things, you have to at least admit that?

No, for 2 reasons:
1: Race doesn't exist
2: People aren't better at different things just because of the color of their skin.


Well i wouldn't say race doesnt exist but I absolutely agree with you its not a factor when it comes to skill or ability

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Postby Crazed Pirates » Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:00 am

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
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but some races are better at different things, you have to at least admit that?

No, for 2 reasons:
1: Race doesn't exist
2: People aren't better at different things just because of the color of their skin.

1. Races do exist, but it's not the good old "White/Black/Yellow', though.
2. True. As far as I remember, Kenyan runners are that good mostly because their lifestyle involves running since childhood (pastoralism ho!).

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Postby Symir » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:50 am

Crazed Pirates wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:No, for 2 reasons:
1: Race doesn't exist
2: People aren't better at different things just because of the color of their skin.

1. Races do exist, but it's not the good old "White/Black/Yellow', though.
2. True. As far as I remember, Kenyan runners are that good mostly because their lifestyle involves running since childhood (pastoralism ho!).

I thought it's because they have some better ligament structure or blood flow, or whatever?

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Postby Crazed Pirates » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:40 am

Symir wrote:
Crazed Pirates wrote:1. Races do exist, but it's not the good old "White/Black/Yellow', though.
2. True. As far as I remember, Kenyan runners are that good mostly because their lifestyle involves running since childhood (pastoralism ho!).

I thought it's because they have some better ligament structure or blood flow, or whatever?

Now you're speaking racist - everybody knows that all races are equal and completely the same!

Okay, now I'm serious. I'm not entirely aware of local morphological differences (sounds legit tho), but, let's be honest, genetics alone don't win championships.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:40 pm

Symir wrote:
Crazed Pirates wrote:1. Races do exist, but it's not the good old "White/Black/Yellow', though.
2. True. As far as I remember, Kenyan runners are that good mostly because their lifestyle involves running since childhood (pastoralism ho!).

I thought it's because they have some better ligament structure or blood flow, or whatever?

I dont think there's any proof of that.

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Postby Ors Might » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:45 pm

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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:47 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Matoran universe wrote:
but some races are better at different things, you have to at least admit that?

No, for 2 reasons:
1: Race doesn't exist
2: People aren't better at different things just because of the color of their skin.


Thats not true at all the Ashkenazi jews have been the most intelligent human ethnicity for decades. People from this ethnicity are often very successful, and Mensa is full of them as well proving its genetic that they are smarter than the rest of human ethnicities on average.

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Postby Blood Wine » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:50 pm

Yes, unless forced by companies or the government
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:50 pm

Korvale wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:No, for 2 reasons:
1: Race doesn't exist
2: People aren't better at different things just because of the color of their skin.


Thats not true at all the Ashkenazi jews have been the most intelligent human ethnicity for decades. People from this ethnicity are often very successful, and Mensa is full of them as well proving its genetic that they are smarter than the rest of human ethnicities on average.

You have any proof of that?

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:50 pm

Blood Wine wrote:Yes, unless forced by companies or the government

How is it forced?

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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Korvale wrote:
Thats not true at all the Ashkenazi jews have been the most intelligent human ethnicity for decades. People from this ethnicity are often very successful, and Mensa is full of them as well proving its genetic that they are smarter than the rest of human ethnicities on average.

You have any proof of that?


https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News ... spx/131053

Also this ethnicity completely controls America despite being a very small minority compared to even blacks who are 13% of our population.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:53 pm

Korvale wrote:
San Lumen wrote:You have any proof of that?


https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News ... spx/131053

Also this ethnicity completely controls America despite being a very small minority compared to even blacks who are 13% of our population.

No Jews do not control America. That's just a conspiracy the far right likes to perpetuate.

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Postby Blood Wine » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:54 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:Yes, unless forced by companies or the government

How is it forced?


I'm talking about things such as quotas
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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Korvale wrote:
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News ... spx/131053

Also this ethnicity completely controls America despite being a very small minority compared to even blacks who are 13% of our population.

No Jews do not control America. That's just a conspiracy the far right likes to perpetuate.


Ashkenazi jews do control America, most people dont notice it since they are indistinguishable from white natives in America, also in the pas they had this strange tendency to change their names to sound more Americanish and less jewish for some reason, I guess they love assimilation.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:57 pm

Blood Wine wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How is it forced?


I'm talking about things such as quotas


I agree with you on that. people should get jobs or get into a university because they are the best not because of skin color, gender or ethnic background.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:59 pm

Korvale wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No Jews do not control America. That's just a conspiracy the far right likes to perpetuate.


Ashkenazi jews do control America, most people dont notice it since they are indistinguishable from white natives in America, also in the pas they had this strange tendency to change their names to sound more Americanish and less jewish for some reason, I guess they love assimilation.

No they dont. Please give proof for. And most immigrants to the West do assimilate. Assimilation does not mean completely giving up your culture and heritage.

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Postby Blood Wine » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:00 pm

On a different note, this thread is about to hit the 500 page gap....guess we should think of a new name

I'm thinking:
Diversity/multiculturalism thread II: the dutch approach
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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:02 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Korvale wrote:
Ashkenazi jews do control America, most people dont notice it since they are indistinguishable from white natives in America, also in the pas they had this strange tendency to change their names to sound more Americanish and less jewish for some reason, I guess they love assimilation.

No they dont. Please give proof for. And most immigrants to the West do assimilate. Assimilation does not mean completely giving up your culture and heritage.


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Ashjews control America you have a Israeli PM bragging about it.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:02 pm

Korvale wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No they dont. Please give proof for. And most immigrants to the West do assimilate. Assimilation does not mean completely giving up your culture and heritage.


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Ashjews control America you have a Israeli PM bragging about it.

Thats one person's opinion.

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Postby Farnhamia » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Korvale wrote:
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Ashjews control America you have a Israeli PM bragging about it.

Thats one person's opinion.

Here's another person's opinion: drop the "Jews control America/the World" line right now. It's a total threadjack.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Korvale wrote:
Ashkenazi jews do control America, most people dont notice it since they are indistinguishable from white natives in America, also in the pas they had this strange tendency to change their names to sound more Americanish and less jewish for some reason, I guess they love assimilation.

No they dont. Please give proof for. And most immigrants to the West do assimilate. Assimilation does not mean completely giving up your culture and heritage.

Yes it does
Blood Wine wrote:On a different note, this thread is about to hit the 500 page gap....guess we should think of a new name

I'm thinking:
Diversity/multiculturalism thread II: the dutch approach

Or we could just keep the present name and just put "2" at the end of it.
Pro: (Pan-)Islamism--Palestine--RBG--Choice to an extent--Giving land back to Native Americans--East--Afrika--etc.
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Postby Blood Wine » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:30 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No they dont. Please give proof for. And most immigrants to the West do assimilate. Assimilation does not mean completely giving up your culture and heritage.

Yes it does
Blood Wine wrote:On a different note, this thread is about to hit the 500 page gap....guess we should think of a new name

I'm thinking:
Diversity/multiculturalism thread II: the dutch approach

Or we could just keep the present name and just put "2" at the end of it.


Assimilation means you adapt to the local culture and customs, not drinking beer in a Islamic country, and accepting that people drink beer in non- Islamic countries for example
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:31 pm

Blood Wine wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Yes it does

Or we could just keep the present name and just put "2" at the end of it.


Assimilation means you adapt to the local culture and customs, not drinking beer in a Islamic country, and accepting that people drink beer in non- Islamic countries for example

Assimilation means losing who you are as a person and acting like someone you're not. That is wrong.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:31 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No they dont. Please give proof for. And most immigrants to the West do assimilate. Assimilation does not mean completely giving up your culture and heritage.

Yes it does
Blood Wine wrote:On a different note, this thread is about to hit the 500 page gap....guess we should think of a new name

I'm thinking:
Diversity/multiculturalism thread II: the dutch approach

Or we could just keep the present name and just put "2" at the end of it.


I dont think that's the definition of it. Would you call those who run a Chinese restaurant for example as having completely given up their culture and heritage?

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Yes it does

Or we could just keep the present name and just put "2" at the end of it.


I dont think that's the definition of it. Would you call those who run a Chinese restaurant for example as having completely given up their culture and heritage?

That's integration, not assimilation.
Pro: (Pan-)Islamism--Palestine--RBG--Choice to an extent--Giving land back to Native Americans--East--Afrika--etc.
Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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