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Borinsa
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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:05 pm

Thervingia wrote:
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If one turns to subverting their own societal rules to protect their society, how is it better than losing it from the outside?

A European Caliphate, or a bunch of fascist states bickering forever amongst themselves; I wonder what's better?


The quote on quote "fascist" states would be better by a long shot.
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*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:07 pm

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
He kind of is...saying that terror attacks have to be accepted as a normal risk of life than something that can be stopped

There is no simple solution to terrorism. Making back doors in millions of phones and Orwellian mass surveillance won't stop some dickheads from building a bomb in their basement.


Well the government could atleast forget about PC shit and admit that Islam and traditional religion in general is unethical and should have no place in Europe
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GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:08 pm

Borinsa wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:There is no simple solution to terrorism. Making back doors in millions of phones and Orwellian mass surveillance won't stop some dickheads from building a bomb in their basement.


Well the government could atleast forget about PC shit and admit that Islam and traditional religion in general is unethical and should have no place in Europe


You can't ban a entire religion from entering or being practiced in the country. There is something called freedom of religion

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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:09 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Btw, about you calling Pakistan a "dictatorship", here's an article about the Pakistani gov: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Pakistan

It's too corrupt to be an actual democracy. It's just like Russian "democracy".

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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:09 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:There is no simple solution to terrorism. Making back doors in millions of phones and Orwellian mass surveillance won't stop some dickheads from building a bomb in their basement.

Exactly and not grounds to label an entire group of people and bar them from the country.


Unless that group of people is an ideology that wants to remove you from the face of the earth and thinks their culture is superior.
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:10 pm

Borinsa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Exactly and not grounds to label an entire group of people and bar them from the country.


Unless that group of people is an ideology that wants to remove you from the face of the earth and thinks their culture is superior.

For the upteenth time Islam as a whole does not condone that.

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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:19 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Fostoria wrote:That is also true. That was very visible when you looked at southern Texas in the 2016 U.S. election.

"People who live near potential immigrants and are exposed to them are less likely to be raging xenophobes shocker"


I've actually heard the opposite
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GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:20 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Unless that group of people is an ideology that wants to remove you from the face of the earth and thinks their culture is superior.

For the upteenth time Islam as a whole does not condone that.


Yes, it does
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:20 pm

Borinsa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:For the upteenth time Islam as a whole does not condone that.


Yes, it does

No it does not

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:23 pm

Do people really not know Al-Islam this much that they say ignorant stuff like this? And why's it so prevalent online and not so much rl?
Btw, there wouldn't be a "European Caliphate", because for one, there's only supposed to be 1 Islamic Caliphate in the Ummah. 2, Europe's majority non-Muslim, so there's not much of a point in incorporating them into the Caliphate (unless they want to, that is).
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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:23 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
Yes, it does

No it does not


You can say that all you want but your PC way of life is still a lie.
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:24 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Do people really not know Al-Islam this much that they say ignorant stuff like this? And why's it so prevalent online and not so much rl?

They probably aren't exposed to it enough and don't bother to read about it.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:24 pm

Borinsa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No it does not


You can say that all you want but your PC way of life is still a lie.

PC way of life?

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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:25 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Do people really not know Al-Islam this much that they say ignorant stuff like this? And why's it so prevalent online and not so much rl?

Because if someone said it in real life they'd be killed by Muslims or arrested by stupid liberal morons
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:26 pm

Borinsa wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Do people really not know Al-Islam this much that they say ignorant stuff like this? And why's it so prevalent online and not so much rl?

Because if someone said it in real life they'd be killed by Muslims or arrested by stupid liberal morons

a fair number of police aren't liberals and some are Muslims as well.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:27 pm

Borinsa wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Do people really not know Al-Islam this much that they say ignorant stuff like this? And why's it so prevalent online and not so much rl?

Because if someone said it in real life they'd be killed by Muslims or arrested by stupid liberal morons

And then the Muslims would either be arrested or killed themselves, according to Shari'ah.
This level of ignorance isn't worth my time to discuss. But if you want to ask genuine, respectful comments about Al-Islam, come here, we'll be glad to answer you're questions.
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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
You can say that all you want but your PC way of life is still a lie.

PC way of life?

Politically Correct.

The belief that white males should have no rights and that European culture is inherently bad.
And that Islam should take over the world and that it's not homophobic to kill gay people if you are Muslim. And that hijabs, a garment designed by "Allah" to shame women is somehow empowering to women.

We need our societies to get less religious, not more.
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:28 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
You can say that all you want but your PC way of life is still a lie.

PC way of life?

I think he/she means "politically correct".
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I'm a (Pan) Islamist ;)
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:29 pm

Borinsa wrote:
San Lumen wrote:PC way of life?

Politically Correct.

The belief that white males should have no rights and that European culture is inherently bad.
And that Islam should take over the world and that it's not homophobic to kill gay people if you are Muslim. And that hijabs, a garment designed by "Allah" to shame women is somehow empowering to women.

We need our societies to get less religious, not more.

I don't believe any of that. I think hijabs are beautiful.

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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:29 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Borinsa wrote:Because if someone said it in real life they'd be killed by Muslims or arrested by stupid liberal morons

And then the Muslims would either be arrested or killed themselves, according to Shari'ah.
This level of ignorance isn't worth my time to discuss. But if you want to ask genuine, respectful comments about Al-Islam, come here, we'll be glad to answer you're questions.


I'd never respect any religion!
Faith doesn't deserve respect, it is the pure embody end of ignorance!
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borinsa wrote:Politically Correct.

The belief that white males should have no rights and that European culture is inherently bad.
And that Islam should take over the world and that it's not homophobic to kill gay people if you are Muslim. And that hijabs, a garment designed by "Allah" to shame women is somehow empowering to women.

We need our societies to get less religious, not more.

I don't believe any of that. I think hijabs are beautiful.

Same
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Proud Full Member of the Council of Islamic Cooperation!^u^
I'm a (Pan) Islamist ;)
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https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people

Democracy and Freedom Index
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:30 pm

Borinsa wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And then the Muslims would either be arrested or killed themselves, according to Shari'ah.
This level of ignorance isn't worth my time to discuss. But if you want to ask genuine, respectful comments about Al-Islam, come here, we'll be glad to answer you're questions.


I'd never respect any religion!
Faith doesn't deserve respect, it is the pure embody end of ignorance!

So, you want to be in jahiliyyah?
Kubumba Tribe's sister nation. NOT A PUPPET! >w< In fact, this one came 1st.
Proud Full Member of the Council of Islamic Cooperation!^u^
I'm a (Pan) Islamist ;)
CLICK THIS
https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people

Democracy and Freedom Index
Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:30 pm

Borinsa wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:And then the Muslims would either be arrested or killed themselves, according to Shari'ah.
This level of ignorance isn't worth my time to discuss. But if you want to ask genuine, respectful comments about Al-Islam, come here, we'll be glad to answer you're questions.


I'd never respect any religion!
Faith doesn't deserve respect, it is the pure embody end of ignorance!

well many countries have freedom of religion and it also means freedom from religion but it does not give you the right to ban a religion from your country

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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borinsa wrote:Politically Correct.

The belief that white males should have no rights and that European culture is inherently bad.
And that Islam should take over the world and that it's not homophobic to kill gay people if you are Muslim. And that hijabs, a garment designed by "Allah" to shame women is somehow empowering to women.

We need our societies to get less religious, not more.

I don't believe any of that. I think hijabs are beautiful.


I think it's hideous, I mean it was designed specifically to make them unattractive so that men wouldn't be tempted by them.
Hijab, burka, bonnet, Eastern European cloth thing, they all have the same purpose
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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Postby Borinsa » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borinsa wrote:
I'd never respect any religion!
Faith doesn't deserve respect, it is the pure embody end of ignorance!

well many countries have freedom of religion and it also means freedom from religion but it does not give you the right to ban a religion from your country


Borinsa, because of its location is mostly catholic,
But maybe I should crack down all the way and ban ALL religions in my country.
Population; 4,307,167 Land Area; 28,847.29 sqkm Pop. Density; 149.3 people per sqkm
Capital City; Rosgrava Official Language; Borinsan Currency; Borin
GDP per capita; 8,017.88 USD GDP; 34,534,348,145.96 USD Exchange rate; 1.00 USD = 2.24 Borins
Majority Faith; Catholic (93.7%) Atheism Rate; 5.8% Atheist Majority ethnicity; Borinsan 98.95%
Small southeastern European country, not part of EU or Schengen zone, is however part of NATO.

Borinsa's Liberal Values;
Climate Change is real, Gay Rights, Pro-Vaccination, Secularism, Round Earth
Borinsa's Conservative Values;
Nativism, Anti-Islam/sharia law, Borinsa First, Only two genders, Anti-flouridation, Pro-life, Privilege is scapegoating, right to privacy.

*Borinsa is on the fence on gun rights

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