Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[Proctopeo]

Speak English, please.

You dont know what a runner up is?

No, you just didn't word your sentence in any way for it to be comprehensible.

I dont believe there are backup athletes to serve as replacements to Olympics should someone drop out or be removed. There are very few things you can be removed from the games for.

I think there sometimes are backup athletes, actually. Not always, maybe, but often.

[San Lumen]

You dont know what a runner up is?

No, you just didn't word your sentence in any way for it to be comprehensible.

I dont believe there are backup athletes to serve as replacements to Olympics should someone drop out or be removed. There are very few things you can be removed from the games for.

I think there sometimes are backup athletes, actually. Not always, maybe, but often.

I've never heard of that and don't there is any such system in place.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

I find nationalism to be quaint and dated anyway, but, that's just me. And let's be honest: when one says "Western nationalism," one isn't celebrating the existence of liberal values of tolerance and multiculturalism and diversity, that's just disingenuous.

"Multiculturalism" isn't western culture it is anti every culture

No it's not

[El-Amin Caliphate]

heck they even in many places bend over for everyone else.

Where?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

So I reading some news on Aljazeera, and I came across this
This doesn't stop when people are kept apart, it stops when people come together. People don't start tolerating one another when they're kept apart, in fact, it increases. We need to come together in order for mess like this to stop or at least, happen less.

Now this is questionable. Idk what Macron is saying, but to me, it looks like he's saying that there should be a "French Islam", which is totally haram and just plain stupid and wrong. No, non-Muslims should not define Al-Islam. Muslims shouldn't even be defining Al-Islam, Allah (SWT) has already done that

Idk why people are getting upset with this tho. If some people like eating dogs, or other animals, let them.

[Fenriis]

So I reading some news on Aljazeera, and I came across this
This doesn't stop when people are kept apart, it stops when people come together. People don't start tolerating one another when they're kept apart, in fact, it increases. We need to come together in order for mess like this to stop or at least, happen less.

Now this is questionable. Idk what Macron is saying, but to me, it looks like he's saying that there should be a "French Islam", which is totally haram and just plain stupid and wrong. No, non-Muslims should not define Al-Islam. Muslims shouldn't even be defining Al-Islam, Allah (SWT) has already done that

Idk why people are getting upset with this tho. If some people like eating dogs, or other animals, let them.

Al Jazzeria is anti western and owned by the slave using Qatar regime. Also Macron bent over for the Muslims and migrants and your still not happy. Le Pen should have won for the good of her people

[Fenriis]

heck they even in many places bend over for everyone else.

Where?

Germany, Sweden, France and parts of the UK. Because the governments are run by a certain hateful tribe that happens to support the terrorist state of Israel and they hate the west.

[San Lumen]

Where?

Germany, Sweden, France and parts of the UK. Because the governments are run by a certain hateful tribe that happens to support the terrorist state of Israel and they hate the west.

Im sorry? Those countries hate the west?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

So I reading some news on Aljazeera, and I came across this
This doesn't stop when people are kept apart, it stops when people come together. People don't start tolerating one another when they're kept apart, in fact, it increases. We need to come together in order for mess like this to stop or at least, happen less.

Now this is questionable. Idk what Macron is saying, but to me, it looks like he's saying that there should be a "French Islam", which is totally haram and just plain stupid and wrong. No, non-Muslims should not define Al-Islam. Muslims shouldn't even be defining Al-Islam, Allah (SWT) has already done that

Idk why people are getting upset with this tho. If some people like eating dogs, or other animals, let them.

Al Jazzeria is anti western and owned

So? That's what's good about it, imo

by the slave using Qatar regime.

True, it's state media and Qatar isn't the best in human rights.
I still like it for the in depthness tho

Also Macron bent over for the Muslims and migrants

Ban on certain forms of Islamic dress are/were in place

and your still not happy.

No one should be happy with persecution

Le Pen should have won for the good of her people

She's the reason why Muslims and immigrants are antsy

Where?

Germany, Sweden, France and parts of the UK. Because the governments are run by a certain hateful tribe that happens to support the terrorist state of Israel and they hate the west.

And who's that tribe?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/burk ... ism-islam/
http://www.islamophobiaeurope.com/wp-co ... FRANCE.pdf

[Flaxxony]

Diversity, where the host nation incorporates a relatively insignificant number of non-natives can be a positive.

What the west has isn't diversity, it is large-scale population replacement. The migration of Latinos to the US is an example where the migration is to a scale where it is more like conquest than diversity. There are enough people of a well-defined out-group that have migrated in a very short time span to politically, culturally, ethnically, etc. displace the original population.

[Flaxxony]

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/burkini-ban-islamophobia-valls-france-secularism-islam/
http://www.islamophobiaeurope.com/wp-co ... FRANCE.pdf

How obtuse to request of another nation's people that they change their legal system to better accommodate a foreign culture. Can you imagine a Westerner requesting the same in Saudi Arabia?

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Diversity, where the host nation incorporates a relatively insignificant number of non-natives can be a positive.

What the west has isn't diversity, it is large-scale population replacement. The migration of Latinos to the US is an example where the migration is to a scale where it is more like conquest than diversity. There are enough people of a well-defined out-group that have migrated in a very short time span to politically, culturally, ethnically, etc. displace the original population.

So, immigration. Ok

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/burkini-ban-islamophobia-valls-france-secularism-islam/
http://www.islamophobiaeurope.com/wp-co ... FRANCE.pdf

How obtuse to request of another nation's people that they change their legal system to better accommodate a foreign culture. Can you imagine a Westerner requesting the same in Saudi Arabia?

Which part are you referring to? I didn't read the whole articles, so forgive my ignorance.
Also, Western isn't a religious group, it's a geographic group.

[Flaxxony]

Diversity, where the host nation incorporates a relatively insignificant number of non-natives can be a positive.

What the west has isn't diversity, it is large-scale population replacement. The migration of Latinos to the US is an example where the migration is to a scale where it is more like conquest than diversity. There are enough people of a well-defined out-group that have migrated in a very short time span to politically, culturally, ethnically, etc. displace the original population.

So, immigration. Ok

How obtuse to request of another nation's people that they change their legal system to better accommodate a foreign culture. Can you imagine a Westerner requesting the same in Saudi Arabia?

Which part are you referring to? I didn't read the whole articles, so forgive my ignorance.
Also, Western isn't a religious group, it's a geographic group.

Western is not a "geographic" group. Continents and climate types are geographic groups. Western is a combination of assorted ethnic groups and cultural attitudes and practices.

[San Lumen]

Diversity, where the host nation incorporates a relatively insignificant number of non-natives can be a positive.

What the west has isn't diversity, it is large-scale population replacement. The migration of Latinos to the US is an example where the migration is to a scale where it is more like conquest than diversity. There are enough people of a well-defined out-group that have migrated in a very short time span to politically, culturally, ethnically, etc. displace the original population.

Im sorry but how is it replacement or conquest?

[Kubumba Tribe]

So, immigration. Ok

Which part are you referring to? I didn't read the whole articles, so forgive my ignorance.
Also, Western isn't a religious group, it's a geographic group.

Western is not a "geographic" group. Continents and climate types are geographic groups. Western is a combination of assorted ethnic groups and cultural attitudes and practices.

Continents are geographic landmasses, climate is georaphic weather patterns. People who live in the 'West' are 'Westerners', which is based on geographic location, hence, geographic group.

[Flaxxony]

Diversity, where the host nation incorporates a relatively insignificant number of non-natives can be a positive.

What the west has isn't diversity, it is large-scale population replacement. The migration of Latinos to the US is an example where the migration is to a scale where it is more like conquest than diversity. There are enough people of a well-defined out-group that have migrated in a very short time span to politically, culturally, ethnically, etc. displace the original population.

Im sorry but how is it replacement or conquest?

Ethnicity/national background is one of the most reliable predictors of voting preferences. In a democracy, voter composition determines government style and legal function.

Mass demographic influx inevitably leads to alterations of democracies (or any government type for that matter) to suit the migrant population. There is very little fundamental difference between formal conquest and demographic conquest when it comes right down to it.

[San Lumen]

Im sorry but how is it replacement or conquest?

Ethnicity/national background is one of the most reliable predictors of voting preferences. In a democracy, voter composition determines government style and legal function.

Mass demographic influx inevitably leads to alterations of democracies (or any government type for that matter) to suit the migrant population. There is very little fundamental difference between formal conquest and demographic conquest when it comes right down to it.

give an example

[Flaxxony]

Western is not a "geographic" group. Continents and climate types are geographic groups. Western is a combination of assorted ethnic groups and cultural attitudes and practices.

Continents are geographic landmasses, climate is georaphic weather patterns. People who live in the 'West' are 'Westerners', which is based on geographic location, hence, geographic group.

You're just playing word games at this point.

Anywhere in the world outside of the west, if you ask any layman on the street what image "Westerner" conjures up, it will almost certainly be a white person from America, Canada, Australia, or Western Europe.

[Fenriis]

Al Jazzeria is anti western and owned

So? That's what's good about it, imo

by the slave using Qatar regime.

True, it's state media and Qatar isn't the best in human rights.
I still like it for the in depthness tho

Also Macron bent over for the Muslims and migrants

Ban on certain forms of Islamic dress are/were in place

and your still not happy.

No one should be happy with persecution

Le Pen should have won for the good of her people

She's the reason why Muslims and immigrants are antsy

Germany, Sweden, France and parts of the UK. Because the governments are run by a certain hateful tribe that happens to support the terrorist state of Israel and they hate the west.

And who's that tribe?

Well firstly no one is persecuted in the western world such as France apart from some right wing activists as thought criminals, secondly as for the tribe I gave you a very good clue when I mentioned Israel, they are responsible for crimes against the world from westerners to Palestinians.

[Flaxxony]

Ethnicity/national background is one of the most reliable predictors of voting preferences. In a democracy, voter composition determines government style and legal function.

Mass demographic influx inevitably leads to alterations of democracies (or any government type for that matter) to suit the migrant population. There is very little fundamental difference between formal conquest and demographic conquest when it comes right down to it.

give an example

It is largely a recent phenomenon, because in the past military conquest was a lot more feasible because no one had nuclear weapons. But Dutch South Africans, Europeans in America, Russians in Asia, etc. are obvious examples of sending foreign populations to an area to establish control.

Israel is probably the best example; Jews voluntarily migrated to Palestine when it was under British control, eventually formalizing the takeover by forming a state.

[Aellex]

Which part are you referring to? I didn't read the whole articles, so forgive my ignorance.
Also, Western isn't a religious group, it's a geographic group.

>not reading the article they're posting when they're literally the only thing in their message
And you're seriously expecting us to take you seriously?
Also Western isn't a geographic group, it's a cultural one. Japan and False Korea are considered Western by quite some standards and yet they haven't moved to Europe last time I checked.

[Ultramarr]

Which part are you referring to? I didn't read the whole articles, so forgive my ignorance.
Also, Western isn't a religious group, it's a geographic group.

>not reading the article they're posting when they're literally the only thing in their message
And you're seriously expecting us to take you seriously?
Also Western isn't a geographic group, it's a cultural one. Japan and False Korea are considered Western by quite some standards and yet they haven't moved to Europe last time I checked.

They are from oriental civilisation while Europeans are western civilisation. Both western and oriental have many sub groups like Japanese and Korea or English and Italian

[Kubumba Tribe]

Continents are geographic landmasses, climate is georaphic weather patterns. People who live in the 'West' are 'Westerners', which is based on geographic location, hence, geographic group.

You're just playing word games at this point.

Anywhere in the world outside of the west, if you ask any layman on the street what image "Westerner" conjures up, it will almost certainly be a white person from America, Canada, Australia, or Western Europe.

Still doesn't negate the fact that people of color can't be Westerners

So? That's what's good about it, imo

True, it's state media and Qatar isn't the best in human rights.
I still like it for the in depthness tho

Ban on certain forms of Islamic dress are/were in place

No one should be happy with persecution

She's the reason why Muslims and immigrants are antsy

And who's that tribe?

Well firstly no one is persecuted in the western world such as France apart from some right wing activists as thought criminals, secondly as for the tribe I gave you a very good clue when I mentioned Israel, they are responsible for crimes against the world from westerners to Palestinians.

The Zionist state doesn't commit crimes against any Western countries.

[Flaxxony]

Which part are you referring to? I didn't read the whole articles, so forgive my ignorance.
Also, Western isn't a religious group, it's a geographic group.

>not reading the article they're posting when they're literally the only thing in their message
And you're seriously expecting us to take you seriously?
Also Western isn't a geographic group, it's a cultural one. Japan and False Korea are considered Western by quite some standards and yet they haven't moved to Europe last time I checked.

This is exactly what I am getting at.

Plus, I don't particularly care to read the article cooked up by some left-wing sociology group. Universities make their bread and butter paying foreign-born grad students garbage wages to sustain their research infrastructure.

Anyone who really thinks the most pressing problem about large-scale Muslim migration to Europe is "Islamophobia" is fundamentally out of touch with reality, or an outright liar. Muslims are observably, provably, obviously orders of magnitude more over-represented in terror attacks on native Westerners. And more important than the raw numbers is the political motivation. It is quite obvious that many Muslim migrants, terrorists and otherwise, see migration to the west as a means of subjugation of the "immoral" or "decadent" west. Just because most Muslims aren't deploying pipe bombs in subways doesn't mean there isn't some sort of sympathy present.

The west is based broadly on: Empiricism, Scientific/Technological Development, Rationalism, Supremacy of Law, Popular Governance, etc. Muslim nations are largely based on the opposites: Religious Superstition, Anti-Modernism, Dogmatism, Divinely-Ordained Rule, and Religious Autocracy.