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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:59 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Then Islam is inconsistent.

Muslims do not define Al-Islam

Actually, that's exactly what you're trying to do right now.

In fact, the defining of a particular religion is directly responsible for inconsistencies, and thus the sects.
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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:39 am

Muslim means west asian race as a codeword most west asians are muslims, some are christian and a tiny tiny few are jews. You west asians people are very conservative(from your perspective) and have ideas that clash with this "progressive" european landmass. For example gays are not tolerated, trannies are seen as freaks, women are also slaves so I suppose any white female on this board that supports mass west asian immigration wants to get raped and beaten by muslim men I mean if thats your thing go ahead just go cry about it later like so many stupid swedish(Malmo) and english fucktards(Rotherham) that got raped by muslims you wanted this so deal with it, in addition other faiths are not tolerated once muslims outnumber you I dont blame them alien faiths can quickly destroy the unity of a region so us christians are on the chopping block its in their religion so dont debate this, they also have laws against usury so that will piss off every jew in Europe as well, infact jews in Europe better run away because muslims will kill them once they become the majority since all muslims sympathize with the Palestine issue and the Koran condemns jews as well. As for racial matters all races are equal in Islam, just kidding the blacks are referred to as zanj and seen as dumb animals in the form of human but really just beast that can walk, the muslims use this to justify their constant enslavement of blacks from East Africa or North Africa which still exist to this day(and you "tolerant" people arent doing a damn thing about it because its not white man doing the slavery how hypocritical). If you dont believe me Libya already had a black slave trade done by muslims so I have no doubt every single black in Europe will become enslaved in a muslim majority Europe or the future Europe. Blacks muslims are simply useful idiots for west asian muslims all of them are slaves in their eyes.

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2 ... ans-libya/

As such are the fruits of diversity is our strength right? Islam would be nice it would get rid of this toxic culture in the west right now too bad Im white meaning I will eventually die.
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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:49 am

Korvale wrote:Muslim means west asian race as a codeword most west asians are muslims, some are christian and a tiny tiny few are jews. You west asians people are very conservative(from your perspective) and have ideas that clash with this "progressive" european landmass. For example gays are not tolerated, trannies are seen as freaks, women are also slaves so I suppose any white female on this board that supports mass west asian immigration wants to get raped and beaten by muslim men I mean if thats your thing go ahead just go cry about it later like so many stupid swedish(Malmo) and english fucktards(Rotherham) that got raped by muslims you wanted this so deal with it, in addition other faiths are not tolerated once muslims outnumber you I dont blame them alien faiths can quickly destroy the unity of a region so us christians are on the chopping block its in their religion so dont debate this, they also have laws against usury so that will piss off every jew in Europe as well, infact jews in Europe better run away because muslims will kill them once they become the majority since all muslims sympathize with the Palestine issue and the Koran condemns jews as well. As for racial matters all races are equal in Islam, just kidding the blacks are referred to as zanj and seen as dumb animals in the form of human but really just beast that can walk, the muslims use this to justify their constant enslavement of blacks from East Africa or North Africa which still exist to this day(and you "tolerant" people arent doing a damn thing about it because its not white man doing the slavery how hypocritical). If you dont believe me Libya already had a black slave trade done by muslims so I have no doubt every single black in Europe will become enslaved in a muslim majority Europe or the future Europe. Blacks muslims are simply useful idiots for west asian muslims all of them are slaves in their eyes.

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2 ... ans-libya/

As such are the fruits of diversity is our strength right? Islam would be nice it would get rid of this toxic culture in the west right now too bad Im white meaning I will eventually die.

Some liberals and marxists and are traitorous governemnt wanted this but English arent "fucktards" like you said and didn't all wanted this.
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Postby Al-Ismailiyya » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:03 pm

Korvale wrote:Muslim means west asian race as a codeword most west asians are muslims, some are christian and a tiny tiny few are jews.

So... Are Indonesians not Muslim now? Malaysians? Algerians? Morrocans? Nigeriens? Somalis? So on and so forth.

Korvale wrote:For example gays are not tolerated, trannies are seen as freaks, women are also slaves

I will condede that the Middle East needs to work on its treatment of gays. However, there is literally a Quranic verse recognising and protecting transsexual individuals and Iran carries out the largest number of sex change operations out of any country in the world except for Thailand. Further, we treat our women as slaves? Hyperbole at its best. There are more female college students in Iran than there are male ones. We've had a woman vice president. While women can certainly be treated more equally, they are by no means treated as "slaves".
Korvale wrote:infact jews in Europe better run away because muslims will kill them once they become the majority since all muslims sympathize with the Palestine issue and the Koran condemns jews as well.

Where does the Quran condemn Judaism exactly? Not to mention the Constitution of Medina, as written by Muhammad (pbuh), clearly outlines protections for the non-Muslim members of Medinan society.
Korvale wrote:As for racial matters all races are equal in Islam, just kidding the blacks are referred to as zanj and seen as dumb animals in the form of human but really just beast that can walk, the muslims use this to justify their constant enslavement of blacks from East Africa or North Africa which still exist to this day(and you "tolerant" people arent doing a damn thing about it because its not white man doing the slavery how hypocritical). If you dont believe me Libya already had a black slave trade done by muslims so I have no doubt every single black in Europe will become enslaved in a muslim majority Europe or the future Europe. Blacks muslims are simply useful idiots for west asian muslims all of them are slaves in their eyes.

Okay, what? Yes, Zanj was a term used to describe African people. Just like black and African are terms used to describe people from Africa. What is your point?

Are blacks seen as dumb animals and slaves? That's an interesting thing to posit. Amin, as a black Muslim do you feel like you are treated as a dumb animal and a slave? It gets even more interesting when you look at Bilal ibn Rabah, an Ethiopian man and one of the earliest converts to Islam. The Prophet (pbuh) ordered his manumission from his pagan masters after they tortured for days to make him abandon Islam. He later went on to become Muhammad's (pbuh) treasurer and the first muezzin. High honours to bestow upon a "dumb animal", don't you think?

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:48 pm

Al-Ismailiyya wrote:Are blacks seen as dumb animals and slaves? That's an interesting thing to posit. Amin, as a black Muslim do you feel like you are treated as a dumb animal and a slave? It gets even more interesting when you look at Bilal ibn Rabah, an Ethiopian man and one of the earliest converts to Islam. The Prophet (pbuh) ordered his manumission from his pagan masters after they tortured for days to make him abandon Islam. He later went on to become Muhammad's (pbuh) treasurer and the first muezzin. High honours to bestow upon a "dumb animal", don't you think?

Lol of course I don't, and what Korvale says is bogus. In fact, one of my parents converted to Al-Islam because he didn't want to worship a white image of Allah (SWT), and that's other African-American Muslims' reasoning to convert. Many African-American Muslims feel that Al-Islam gives them the strength that Christianity doesn't. Some say that African-Americans should be Muslims instead of Christians because of the different history between the 2 religions.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:56 pm

Him calling us useless slaves for Muslims (why does he equate Muslims to Middle Easterners? Anyone from anywhere can be Muslim) says more about him/her than whatever/whoever he's/she's trying to attack.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:37 pm

Korvale wrote:Muslim means west asian race as a codeword most west asians are muslims, some are christian and a tiny tiny few are jews. You west asians people are very conservative(from your perspective) and have ideas that clash with this "progressive" european landmass. For example gays are not tolerated, trannies are seen as freaks, women are also slaves so I suppose any white female on this board that supports mass west asian immigration wants to get raped and beaten by muslim men I mean if thats your thing go ahead just go cry about it later like so many stupid swedish(Malmo) and english fucktards(Rotherham) that got raped by muslims you wanted this so deal with it, in addition other faiths are not tolerated once muslims outnumber you I dont blame them alien faiths can quickly destroy the unity of a region so us christians are on the chopping block its in their religion so dont debate this, they also have laws against usury so that will piss off every jew in Europe as well, infact jews in Europe better run away because muslims will kill them once they become the majority since all muslims sympathize with the Palestine issue and the Koran condemns jews as well. As for racial matters all races are equal in Islam, just kidding the blacks are referred to as zanj and seen as dumb animals in the form of human but really just beast that can walk, the muslims use this to justify their constant enslavement of blacks from East Africa or North Africa which still exist to this day(and you "tolerant" people arent doing a damn thing about it because its not white man doing the slavery how hypocritical). If you dont believe me Libya already had a black slave trade done by muslims so I have no doubt every single black in Europe will become enslaved in a muslim majority Europe or the future Europe. Blacks muslims are simply useful idiots for west asian muslims all of them are slaves in their eyes.

https://www.the-american-interest.com/2 ... ans-libya/

As such are the fruits of diversity is our strength right? Islam would be nice it would get rid of this toxic culture in the west right now too bad Im white meaning I will eventually die.


Amazing everything you just said in that statement is wrong.

Islam isn't a toxic culture. Your white genocide conspiracy theory your implying is despicable. Who cares who has more children or who someone marries and procreates with? I certainly dont.

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:53 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:I want the migrants thrown out of Italy as much as he does

wtf
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:migrant invasion.

Does no one on the far-right know what 'invasion' means anymore?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:57 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:I want the migrants thrown out of Italy as much as he does

wtf
TURTLESHROOM II wrote:migrant invasion.

Does no one on the far-right know what 'invasion' means anymore?

Demographic invasion planned by the globalists in the government and banks. The migrants are also being used

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:58 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:wtf

Does no one on the far-right know what 'invasion' means anymore?

Demographic invasion planned by the globalists in the government and banks. The migrants are also being used

Like, I said, does no one on the far right know what the word 'invasion' means?
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:01 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:wtf

Does no one on the far-right know what 'invasion' means anymore?

Demographic invasion planned by the globalists in the government and banks. The migrants are also being used


Do you even known the definition of invasion? Your implying there is some sort of conspiracy involved.theres not.

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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:Demographic invasion planned by the globalists in the government and banks. The migrants are also being used


Do you even known the definition of invasion? Your implying there is some sort of conspiracy involved.theres not.

There is its actively promoted by globalist corporations, banks and politicians only against 1st world countries mainly in the western world

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:14 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Do you even known the definition of invasion? Your implying there is some sort of conspiracy involved.theres not.

There is its actively promoted by globalist corporations, banks

Proof?
Ultramarr wrote:only against 1st world countries mainly in the western world

You say that like 3rd world, non-Western countries aren't diverse nor multicultural
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:17 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Do you even known the definition of invasion? Your implying there is some sort of conspiracy involved.theres not.

There is its actively promoted by globalist corporations, banks and politicians only against 1st world countries mainly in the western world

So there's a conspiracy to eliminate white people? Do you know how absurd you sound right now?

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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:21 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:There is its actively promoted by globalist corporations, banks and politicians only against 1st world countries mainly in the western world

So there's a conspiracy to eliminate white people? Do you know how absurd you sound right now?

There are conspiracies to attack middle eastern countries for Israel, there is one to attack European countries demographically and one to destabilise East Asia and South Asia for a certain group I wouldn't mention.
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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:23 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:There is its actively promoted by globalist corporations, banks

Proof?
Ultramarr wrote:only against 1st world countries mainly in the western world

You say that like 3rd world, non-Western countries aren't diverse nor multicultural

They aren't forced to be and many of the very diverse places such as India and Afghanistan and South Africa all seem to be facing issues because of it

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Postby Donut section » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:23 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So there's a conspiracy to eliminate white people? Do you know how absurd you sound right now?

There are conspiracies to attack middle eastern countries for Israel, there is one to attack European countries demographically and one to destabilise East Asia and South Asia for a certain tribe I wouldn't mention.


Wut.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:27 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So there's a conspiracy to eliminate white people? Do you know how absurd you sound right now?

There are conspiracies to attack middle eastern countries for Israel, there is one to attack European countries demographically and one to destabilise East Asia and South Asia for a certain group I wouldn't mention.

Im sorry but what are you talking about?

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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:27 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:There are conspiracies to attack middle eastern countries for Israel, there is one to attack European countries demographically and one to destabilise East Asia and South Asia for a certain group I wouldn't mention.

Im sorry but what are you talking about?

A part of the globalist agenda

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:28 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im sorry but what are you talking about?

A part of the globalist agenda

And what is the globalist agenda?

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:29 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:So there's a conspiracy to eliminate white people? Do you know how absurd you sound right now?

There are conspiracies to attack middle eastern countries for Israel, there is one to attack European countries demographically and one to destabilise East Asia and South Asia for a certain group I wouldn't mention.

Proof?
Ultramarr wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Proof?

You say that like 3rd world, non-Western countries aren't diverse nor multicultural

They aren't forced to be and many of the very diverse places such as India and Afghanistan and South Africa all seem to be facing issues because of it

Afghanistan is facing problems due to terrorism and a corrupt gov, not diversity nor multiculturalism
India is facing problems because of a prejudiced Hindu nationalist party
South Africa is still dealing with poverty-stricken areas and post-apartheid racism
Pro: (Pan-)Islamism--Palestine--RBG--Choice to an extent--Giving land back to Native Americans--East--Afrika--etc.
Anti: US gov--West gov--Capitalism--Imperialism/Colonialism--Racism/White Supremacy--Secularism getting into everything--Western 'intervention' in the East--Zionism--etc.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:32 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:There are conspiracies to attack middle eastern countries for Israel, there is one to attack European countries demographically and one to destabilise East Asia and South Asia for a certain group I wouldn't mention.

Proof?
Ultramarr wrote:They aren't forced to be and many of the very diverse places such as India and Afghanistan and South Africa all seem to be facing issues because of it

Afghanistan is facing problems due to terrorism and a corrupt gov, not diversity nor multiculturalism
India is facing problems because of a prejudiced Hindu nationalist party
South Africa is still dealing with poverty-stricken areas and post-apartheid racism

Afghanistan is also ungovernable for the government due to all the different tribes, South Africa also has a lot of tension and dispute between the many people there including between the black tribes and white people are starting to get killed off in their farms hardly the apartheid now. India is suffering from a large Muslim fifth column and its hard to centralise and run such a country with so many groups.

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Postby Ultramarr » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:34 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:A part of the globalist agenda

And what is the globalist agenda?

A push to destroy nation hood and culture by the globalists to turn us all into nihilistic cattle with no identity or morals.

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Postby Donut section » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:34 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im sorry but what are you talking about?

A part of the globalist agenda


I don't think you have any reasonable criticisms of globalist politics, policy or intentions. Just fearmongering from alt right youtubers.

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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:40 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And what is the globalist agenda?

A push to destroy nation hood and culture by the globalists to turn us all into nihilistic cattle with no identity or morals.

Im sorry but I have no idea what that means.

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