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Postby Ultramarr » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:00 am

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It will result in genocide in time as muslims hate white people and arent afraid to show it even nowadays.

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No need to censor him for honestly stating his beliefs.

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Postby Ultramarr » Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:02 am

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Ultramarr wrote:The Ainus did very little to build Japanese civilisation or the nation which the Japanese people built, they lost thousands of years ago end of story.

According to you, land belongs to the natives, and they should have sovreignty on their own land, so why should you care what Ainus do or don't do on their own land? Why shouldn't they take their land back?
Ultramarr wrote:As for Palestine I support them because I am anti Israel

I'm pretty sure you're anti-Jewish also
Ultramarr wrote:and the natives have their reservations where they can live with their fellow tribes.

Because reservations are the best places to live /s
Ultramarr wrote:The Neanderthals also existed outside of Europe too and they didn't build any nations.

Land belongs to the natives according to you, remember?
Ultramarr wrote:I said the stereotype on Brits isn't true same with the immigrants

Yet you still used a stereotype about immgrants

The land belongs to the natives as in the civilisation that build the civilisation. If you been there for over a 1000 years and built a civilisation you are the native.

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No need to censor him for honestly stating his beliefs.

Agreed
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Farnhamia wrote:*** One day ban for continued trolling after being warned for it. ***

No need to censor him for honestly stating his beliefs.

If you actually read that you will notice that he is stating other people's beliefs.
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Postby Ultramarr » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:01 am

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Avernian Republic wrote:Diversity for diversity's sake is meaningless. You done even specify if you're differentiating between good kinds of cultures and bad kinds of cultures. You just say that having different cultures is inherently good. That's like saying having a diverse array of food is good, even if 90% of it is junk food crap that's gonna make you nothing but sick.

To whom are you referring to?

What is a bad culture to you?

The aghori cannibals of India, the Islamic theoracy culture of Pakistan, savages in the amazon ect

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Postby Minoa » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:25 am

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Minoa wrote:With all due respect, I remain firm that xenophobia is unacceptable, especially with this incident in Italy.


merely an incident triggered by the behaviour of the people you are trying to force society to accept

same thing with the finsbury mosque attacker

Basically this argument is blaming the victims just because of their ethnicity.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:25 am

Ultramarr wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:*** One day ban for continued trolling after being warned for it. ***

No need to censor him for honestly stating his beliefs.

Australian rePublic wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:No need to censor him for honestly stating his beliefs.

Agreed

These are his beliefs.
And Ultramarr, didn't you say in the Student expelling thread that spouting racist b.s. is wrong?
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Kubumba Tribe wrote:According to you, land belongs to the natives, and they should have sovreignty on their own land, so why should you care what Ainus do or don't do on their own land? Why shouldn't they take their land back?

I'm pretty sure you're anti-Jewish also

Because reservations are the best places to live /s

Land belongs to the natives according to you, remember?

Yet you still used a stereotype about immgrants

The land belongs to the natives as in the civilisation that build the civilisation. If you been there for over a 1000 years and built a civilisation you are the native.

Not the definition of a native.
This mean that you don't support natives having the right to their land, you support whoever "develops" the land.
Ultramarr wrote:The aghori cannibals of India

I just read about the Aghoris and have not come across them being cannibals.
Ultramarr wrote:the Islamic theoracy culture of Pakistan

1: Pakistan and other Muslim-majority countries have a loooooong way to go for that to happen
2: Even if Pakistan was Islamic, you say that like that's a bad thing.
Ultramarr wrote:savages in the amazon

>Implying every single indigenous ethnic group in the Amazon is savage
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:55 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:2: Even if Pakistan was Islamic,

>95% of Pakistan is Muslim
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:05 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:2: Even if Pakistan was Islamic,

>95% of Pakistan is Muslim
>"Even if Pakistan was Islamic-"
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Yes. Some of Pakistan's laws are not consistent with Al-Islam. Instead of Shari'ah, they follow laws based off of British common law
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Postby Ultramarr » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:24 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:No need to censor him for honestly stating his beliefs.

Australian rePublic wrote:Agreed

These are his beliefs.
And Ultramarr, didn't you say in the Student expelling thread that spouting racist b.s. is wrong?
Ultramarr wrote:The land belongs to the natives as in the civilisation that build the civilisation. If you been there for over a 1000 years and built a civilisation you are the native.

Not the definition of a native.
This mean that you don't support natives having the right to their land, you support whoever "develops" the land.
Ultramarr wrote:The aghori cannibals of India

I just read about the Aghoris and have not come across them being cannibals.
Ultramarr wrote:the Islamic theoracy culture of Pakistan

1: Pakistan and other Muslim-majority countries have a loooooong way to go for that to happen
2: Even if Pakistan was Islamic, you say that like that's a bad thing.
Ultramarr wrote:savages in the amazon

>Implying every single indigenous ethnic group in the Amazon is savage

The natives would mean the population living in and building the soceity even the native Americans came from elsewhere so when I say native thats what I mean. The Aghoris are definately cannibals and they also cover themseleves in human ash and steal and eat dead bodies, do drugs and and drink from human skulls. Reza Aslan even interviews and eats brain with them its really messed up. The indegenious poulation of the amazon are savages its the truth.
Here are some videos on the aghori sect and Pakistan's theocracy and revenge rapes a part of their culture in swathes of their country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM-NMfn48c4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp-sr5LNA50
I said on the other thread I don't agree with the guys racist comment about torturing people but I don't believe in censoring them either especially since the guy that got censored here never went on about torturing people
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:31 am

Ultramarr wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
These are his beliefs.
And Ultramarr, didn't you say in the Student expelling thread that spouting racist b.s. is wrong?

Not the definition of a native.
This mean that you don't support natives having the right to their land, you support whoever "develops" the land.

I just read about the Aghoris and have not come across them being cannibals.

1: Pakistan and other Muslim-majority countries have a loooooong way to go for that to happen
2: Even if Pakistan was Islamic, you say that like that's a bad thing.

>Implying every single indigenous ethnic group in the Amazon is savage

The natives would mean the population living in and building the soceity even the native Americans came from elsewhere so when I say native thats what I mean.

Ok. Still, that's not the definition of what a native is
Ultramarr wrote:The Aghoris are definately cannibals

Proof?
Ultramarr wrote:Reza Aslan even interviews and eats brain with them its really messed up.

Proof about Reza Azlan doing this?
Ultramarr wrote:The indegenious poulation of the amazon are savages its the truth.

Again:
>Implying that every single indigenous ethnic group in the Amazon is savage
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Postby Ultramarr » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:33 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:The natives would mean the population living in and building the soceity even the native Americans came from elsewhere so when I say native thats what I mean.

Ok. Still, that's not the definition of what a native is
Ultramarr wrote:The Aghoris are definately cannibals

Proof?
Ultramarr wrote:Reza Aslan even interviews and eats brain with them its really messed up.

Proof about Reza Azlan doing this?
Ultramarr wrote:The indegenious poulation of the amazon are savages its the truth.

Again:
>Implying that every single indigenous ethnic group in the Amazon is savage

I left the video on the Aghoris and Raza Aslan you just didn't click on it and yes the Amazon is inhabited by savages
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:37 am

Ultramarr wrote:yes the Amazon is inhabited by savages

>Implying that every single indigenous ethnic group is savage.
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Postby Ultramarr » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:38 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:yes the Amazon is inhabited by savages

>Implying that every single indigenous ethnic group is savage.

I am not implying it I am stating it

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:58 am

Ultramarr wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:>Implying that every single indigenous ethnic group is savage.

I am not implying it I am stating it

Well either way I doubt it
These are all the indigenous peoples of Brazil(these people too, and these people), Ecuador, Peru, Peru and Brazil, Colombia (the list is of the groups regarless of whether they live in the Amazon or not. Now, you're telling me that every single indigenous ethnicity in the Amazon is savage?
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Postby Ultramarr » Sun Feb 04, 2018 8:59 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:I am not implying it I am stating it

Well either way I doubt it
These are all the indigenous peoples of Brazil(these people too, and these people), Ecuador, Peru, Peru and Brazil, Colombia (the list is of the groups regarless of whether they live in the Amazon or not. Now, you're telling me that every single indigenous ethnicity in the Amazon is savage?

Yes when everyone else has massive civilisation they live in the jungle like pre historic people so yes

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:06 am

Ultramarr wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Well either way I doubt it
These are all the indigenous peoples of Brazil(these people too, and these people), Ecuador, Peru, Peru and Brazil, Colombia (the list is of the groups regarless of whether they live in the Amazon or not. Now, you're telling me that every single indigenous ethnicity in the Amazon is savage?

Yes when everyone else has massive civilisation they live in the jungle like pre historic people so yes

Living in the jungle doesn't make someone a savage.
Ok wait, it does. but people use more modern terms for people like them.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:53 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:>95% of Pakistan is Muslim
>"Even if Pakistan was Islamic-"
>Le "Muslims not Islam" meme

Yes. Some of Pakistan's laws are not consistent with Al-Islam.

Islam as a religion is inconsistent across sects. Otherwise they wouldn't be sects.

Including the court dedicated to determining if a law is consistent with Sharia?

Though I will give credit due where it's mentioned that stoning was initially ruled unislamic in 1981, until the court was replaced and the ruling reversed. Also says they prevent stonings and amputations.
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El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:Yes when everyone else has massive civilisation they live in the jungle like pre historic people so yes

Living in the jungle doesn't make someone a savage.
Ok wait, it does. but people use more modern terms for people like them.

Such as. No use sugar coating it I call them what they are savage. Its only regarded as an insult in civilised civilisations or at least more developed ones they wouldn't even think of it as an insult if there primitive language had a word for it
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:26 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Yes. Some of Pakistan's laws are not consistent with Al-Islam.

Islam as a religion is inconsistent across sects. Otherwise they wouldn't be sects.

Well, sects are inconsistent with Al-Islam, so...

I said "some", not "al"l.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Though I will give credit due where it's mentioned that stoning was initially ruled unislamic in 1981

Always has been, always will be
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:until the court was replaced and the ruling reversed.

Why?
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Also says they prevent amputations.

Why?
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Postby Thervingia » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:17 am

Ultramarr wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Living in the jungle doesn't make someone a savage.
Ok wait, it does. but people use more modern terms for people like them.

Such as. No use sugar coating it I call them what they are savage. Its only regarded as an insult in civilised civilisations or at least more developed ones they wouldn't even think of it as an insult if there primitive language had a word for it

At least they're not seeped in western decadence.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:33 am

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Islam as a religion is inconsistent across sects. Otherwise they wouldn't be sects.

Well, sects are inconsistent with Al-Islam, so...

Then Islam is inconsistent if that's true.

All law is subject to the court; ergo all law must be consistent with sharia.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Though I will give credit due where it's mentioned that stoning was initially ruled unislamic in 1981

Always has been, always will be
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:until the court was replaced and the ruling reversed.

Why?

Because military regimes are governments of assholes, by assholes, for assholes.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Also says they prevent amputations.

Why?

They prevent stonings too, but I already said that and I'm not sure why you'd deliberately omit that.

Presumably, it's because both punishments are absolutely unacceptable for any moral person.
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:Well, sects are inconsistent with Al-Islam, so...

Then Islam is inconsistent if that's true.

Sects are inconsistent with Al-Islam.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:All law is subject to the court

No, all law should be subject to Allah (SWT), not a court. The court should be subject to Allah (SWT), not itself.
Because military regimes are governments of assholes, by assholes, for assholes.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:They prevent stonings too, but I already said that and I'm not sure why you'd deliberately omit that.

Stonings have nothing to do with Al-Islam.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Presumably, it's because both punishments are absolutely unacceptable for any moral person.

A 'moral' person upon kufr or a moral person upon imaan?
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:36 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Then Islam is inconsistent if that's true.

Sects are inconsistent with Al-Islam.

Then Islam is inconsistent.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:All law is subject to the court

No, all law should be subject to Allah (SWT), not a court. The court should be subject to Allah (SWT), not itself.

Assuming God is real and he's the Muslim one, logically the court dedicated to enforcing his law is subject to him.
Because military regimes are governments of assholes, by assholes, for assholes.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:They prevent stonings too, but I already said that and I'm not sure why you'd deliberately omit that.

Stonings have nothing to do with Al-Islam.

Islam does have something to do with stonings however.
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Presumably, it's because both punishments are absolutely unacceptable for any moral person.

A 'moral' person upon kufr or a moral person upon imaan?

Is amputation acceptable in Islam?
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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Then Islam is inconsistent.

Muslims do not define Al-Islam
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Is amputation acceptable in Islam?

Yes
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