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Postby Korvale » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:21 pm

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Africa is not a mixture of races thus not diverse its that simple. Most black african countries are 90% black african the ethnicities dont matter they are all one single black racial group.

Yeah, tell a someone from the Xhosa tribe that they're the exact same as the Zulus! See where that gets you.


A race is a large grouping of humans in a geographical area not just another word for ethnicity, muslims is a short way to say THE WEST ASIAN RACE. As such all africans with high melanin are a single black racial group.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:22 pm

Korvale wrote:
Lysset wrote:Yeah, tell a someone from the Xhosa tribe that they're the exact same as the Zulus! See where that gets you.


A race is a large grouping of humans in a geographical area not just another word for ethnicity, muslims is a short way to say THE WEST ASIAN RACE.

Id like an answer to my question

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Postby Korvale » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:25 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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A race is a large grouping of humans in a geographical area not just another word for ethnicity, muslims is a short way to say THE WEST ASIAN RACE.

Id like an answer to my question


What question?

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Postby Lysset » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:26 pm

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Lysset wrote:Yeah, tell a someone from the Xhosa tribe that they're the exact same as the Zulus! See where that gets you.


A race is a large grouping of humans in a geographical area not just another word for ethnicity, muslims is a short way to say THE WEST ASIAN RACE. As such all africans with high melanin are a single black racial group.

Perhaps, but they're not a single cultural group.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:27 pm

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San Lumen wrote:Id like an answer to my question


What question?

According to you there are certain jobs someone shouldn't be allowed to do because of their race? if so what are they?

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Postby Islamic Alsuwid » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:29 pm

Yes,my nation was built on extreme multiculturalism

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Islamic Alsuwid wrote:Yes,my nation was built on extreme multiculturalism

the polices of your nation on NS are irrelevant in NS general.

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Postby Korvale » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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What question?

According to you there are certain jobs someone shouldn't be allowed to do because of their race? if so what are they?


Anything that doesnt affect media or laws.
Perhaps, but they're not a single cultural group.


Yes Im aware african ethnic groups have varying cultures.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:33 pm

Korvale wrote:
San Lumen wrote:According to you there are certain jobs someone shouldn't be allowed to do because of their race? if so what are they?


Anything that doesnt affect media or laws.

Be specific. For example non whites shouldnt be allowed to be news anchors or reporters, or elected officials?

The mayor of Helena or St. Paul shouldnt be allowed to serve because he's black?
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Postby Neu Leonstein » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:36 pm

Lysset wrote:Perhaps, but they're not a single cultural group.

They're not even a single "racial group". The only way you'd throw all Africans into the "black" group is if you didn't understand what race is and just went off US census categories. And, of course, you ignored everything north of the southern end of the Sahara, but we'll take a certain amount of ignorance of geography as a given.

And I might leave it there. There's not a great deal to be gained from arguing with someone who doesn't source claims or engages with what you write.
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Postby Korvale » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:50 pm

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Lysset wrote:Perhaps, but they're not a single cultural group.

They're not even a single "racial group". The only way you'd throw all Africans into the "black" group is if you didn't understand what race is and just went off US census categories. And, of course, you ignored everything north of the southern end of the Sahara, but we'll take a certain amount of ignorance of geography as a given.

And I might leave it there. There's not a great deal to be gained from arguing with someone who doesn't source claims or engages with what you write.


No they are a single racial group
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The mayor of Helena or St. Paul shouldnt be allowed to serve because he's black?


Yes since hes blacks he will only care about blacks and try to get blacks to dominate positions leading to a black majority government overtime.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:53 pm

Korvale wrote:
Neu Leonstein wrote:They're not even a single "racial group". The only way you'd throw all Africans into the "black" group is if you didn't understand what race is and just went off US census categories. And, of course, you ignored everything north of the southern end of the Sahara, but we'll take a certain amount of ignorance of geography as a given.

And I might leave it there. There's not a great deal to be gained from arguing with someone who doesn't source claims or engages with what you write.


No they are a single racial group
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The mayor of Helena or St. Paul shouldnt be allowed to serve because he's black?


Yes since hes blacks he will only care about blacks and try to get blacks to dominate positions leading to a black majority government overtime.


Im sorry but that is definition of racism. You do realize Montana is one of the whitest states in the country? So not only is your claim absurd its also racist.

According to you non whites should be barred from elected office or media jobs? Anything else?
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Postby Korvale » Sat Feb 03, 2018 1:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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No they are a single racial group
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Yes since hes blacks he will only care about blacks and try to get blacks to dominate positions leading to a black majority government overtime.


Im sorry but that is definition of racism. You do realize Montana is one of the whitest states in the country? So not only is your claim absurd its also racist.

According to you non whites should be barred from elected office or media jobs? Anything else?


If you want to keep a dominant racial majority you gotta bar outsiders from the influential professions. I mean in South Africa they actually do this they dont like anyone except black people get jobs they try their hardest to prevent whites from gaining jobs.

Non-whites dont care about racism only whites do.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:02 pm

Korvale wrote:
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Im sorry but that is definition of racism. You do realize Montana is one of the whitest states in the country? So not only is your claim absurd its also racist.

According to you non whites should be barred from elected office or media jobs? Anything else?


If you want to keep a dominant racial majority you gotta bar outsiders from the influential professions. I mean in South Africa they actually do this they dont like anyone except black people get jobs they try their hardest to prevent whites from gaining jobs.

Non-whites dont care about racism only whites do.

Who cares what the racial majority is? Last time I checked the definition of American, Canadian, Brazilian, British or German isn't a white person.

No one should be barred from any job on the basis of race and that you would say not whites dont care about racism shows your frighteningly ignorant of history.

I guess Don Lemon should be fired from CNN because he's black?

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Postby Post War America » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:10 pm

Korvale are you going to back up your claims that have been challenged with evidenced or should I consider your silence acquiescence.
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Postby Korvale » Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:Who cares what the racial majority is? Last time I checked the definition of American, Canadian, Brazilian, British or German isn't a white person.

No one should be barred from any job on the basis of race and that you would say not whites dont care about racism shows your frighteningly ignorant of history.

I guess Don Lemon should be fired from CNN because he's black?


With the exception of Brazilian the definition of white person as those are racial majority atm in the future an American would be a hispanic person and a European would mean a muslim.

Yes lets allow a certain group of humans to get into any job like say the media then they start creating media for their own reasons like promoting the immigration of their racial group into that country to one day demographically take it over entirely, or maybe let them become the governing official that passes laws that helps more of their race get into that country to demographically take it over. At the end of the day this is nothing but a conquest agenda for non-white people as seen by mexicans referencing Aztlan all the time in California. Blacks simply despise white people and want to turn anywhere they exist into Africa meaning barely any nonblacks at all as seen in all black african countries.

Non-whites definition of racism means anything that is directed at them not anything that is directed at any race, hence why blacks say they arent racist if they say "we should kill all white people" or muslims arent racist if they intentionally target white people to rob or rape in Europe no no they just have "cultural differences" and its racist for you the white to question them as you are doing right now. Racism means fuck white people.

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Postby Al-Ismailiyya » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:13 pm

Korvale wrote:
Al-Ismailiyya wrote:Lol what?


Only white people dont believe in race is that a revelation? I see black people all the time going cracker this cracker that kill the white bitch kill that fucking honkie, mexicans call us gringos, muslims call us infidels showing they see race as they are attacking us racially with these comments.

Uh... So, you've never heard a white person say a single racial slur? You really should leave your little suburban bubble sometime.

And you just admitted that you believe in race by, ya know, naming all those races.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:36 pm

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:Depends how different the cultures are. If they have different moral codes, then it can be very dangerous to civil society.

In what way? How does having Muslims in England, Canada or Germany for example dangerous to society?

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I grew up in an area with lots of Muslims, and I tend to find that there are two kinds of Muslims: the Muslims who are good, hard working people, mostly keep to themselves. These Muslims are some of the best migrants we could ever hope for and are just generally positive members of society. Then you have the second type of Muslim, who is unworthy of the title scum of the Earth. This type of Muslim sickens me, and it breaks my heart to see good, decent, hard working Muslims have their entire reputations shat on by the later kind of Muslim. It's terrible to ses that good Muslims are thought of as evil because of the evil Muslims. Muslims already make up a small proportion of the population, and the terrible ones, even less than that, and considering their size, their impact is massive. There is nothing wrong with Islamic migration if we bring in the good kind of Muslims who want to be positive, productive members of society. If you wish to abide by Western laws, customs and beliefs, walk right in, but if you want to be a dipshit, then piss off! Irrespective of which country you come from and irrespective of which country you move to, it is YOUR reposonsibility to abide by the values and beliefs of that country (to a point, this is not a discussion about whether or not you should ditch your own customs, that's a discussion for another day). It's true for Westerners moving to Japan (for example), and it's true for Muslims moving to the West. If you move to Japan, it's you're responsibility to become metaphorically Japanese, and if you move to the West, it's your responsibility to become a metaphorical Westerner
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:51 pm

Korvale wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Who cares what the racial majority is? Last time I checked the definition of American, Canadian, Brazilian, British or German isn't a white person.

No one should be barred from any job on the basis of race and that you would say not whites dont care about racism shows your frighteningly ignorant of history.

I guess Don Lemon should be fired from CNN because he's black?


With the exception of Brazilian the definition of white person as those are racial majority atm in the future an American would be a hispanic person and a European would mean a muslim.

Yes lets allow a certain group of humans to get into any job like say the media then they start creating media for their own reasons like promoting the immigration of their racial group into that country to one day demographically take it over entirely, or maybe let them become the governing official that passes laws that helps more of their race get into that country to demographically take it over. At the end of the day this is nothing but a conquest agenda for non-white people as seen by mexicans referencing Aztlan all the time in California. Blacks simply despise white people and want to turn anywhere they exist into Africa meaning barely any nonblacks at all as seen in all black african countries.

Non-whites definition of racism means anything that is directed at them not anything that is directed at any race, hence why blacks say they arent racist if they say "we should kill all white people" or muslims arent racist if they intentionally target white people to rob or rape in Europe no no they just have "cultural differences" and its racist for you the white to question them as you are doing right now. Racism means fuck white people.

I didn't say what the definition of white person was. I asked you what the definition of American, Canadian. etc was. It certainly doesn't mean white.

So I take it according to Don Lemon and Van Jones should be fired from CNN because their black and are promoting a black takeover? Are you serious?

All the non white officials in my state and across the country should be removed from office? What laws have they passed?

Your comments about non whites are the definition of racism plain and simply and promoting the nonsense conspiracy of white genocide.

Should interracial marriage be banned too?

Give an example to back up your ridiculous claims otherwise is nothing more than racist drivel.
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Postby Lysset » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:12 pm

Neu Leonstein wrote:
Lysset wrote:Perhaps, but they're not a single cultural group.

They're not even a single "racial group". The only way you'd throw all Africans into the "black" group is if you didn't understand what race is and just went off US census categories. And, of course, you ignored everything north of the southern end of the Sahara, but we'll take a certain amount of ignorance of geography as a given.

Frankly, I forgot about that group too. Beyond that, I did a bad job of trying to prove Korvale wrong.
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Postby Korvale » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:38 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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With the exception of Brazilian the definition of white person as those are racial majority atm in the future an American would be a hispanic person and a European would mean a muslim.

Yes lets allow a certain group of humans to get into any job like say the media then they start creating media for their own reasons like promoting the immigration of their racial group into that country to one day demographically take it over entirely, or maybe let them become the governing official that passes laws that helps more of their race get into that country to demographically take it over. At the end of the day this is nothing but a conquest agenda for non-white people as seen by mexicans referencing Aztlan all the time in California. Blacks simply despise white people and want to turn anywhere they exist into Africa meaning barely any nonblacks at all as seen in all black african countries.

Non-whites definition of racism means anything that is directed at them not anything that is directed at any race, hence why blacks say they arent racist if they say "we should kill all white people" or muslims arent racist if they intentionally target white people to rob or rape in Europe no no they just have "cultural differences" and its racist for you the white to question them as you are doing right now. Racism means fuck white people.

I didn't say what the definition of white person was. I asked you what the definition of American, Canadian. etc was. It certainly doesn't mean white.

So I take it according to Don Lemon and Van Jones should be fired from CNN because their black and are promoting a black takeover? Are you serious?

All the non white officials in my state and across the country should be removed from office? What laws have they passed?

Your comments about non whites are the definition of racism plain and simply and promoting the nonsense conspiracy of white genocide.

Should interracial marriage be banned too?

Give an example to back up your ridiculous claims otherwise is nothing more than racist drivel.


I didn't say what the definition of white person was. I asked you what the definition of American, Canadian. etc was. It certainly doesn't mean white.


An American is a white person, native americans are not americans since there was no "America" before white people this was just a nameless landmass.

So I take it according to Don Lemon and Van Jones should be fired from CNN because their black and are promoting a black takeover? Are you serious?


It sounds crazy to a white person like you because you have no close connection to your own race blacks are not like that they are very tribal people that splinter based on simple ethnic differences thus a white majority land like America causes black people to unify as the white is the common outsider that the blacks can hate, remove the white and the african americans would begin to splinter like native africans in their tribes. We saw hints of splintering before the US became too connected when blacks were isolated from eachother in seperate states developing their own cultures. This is not a bad thing though.

All the non white officials in my state and across the country should be removed from office? What laws have they passed?


Well if you want to maintain a white majority then yes prevent an outsider from getting into your government I mean the freaking Japanese government is still to this day 100% Japanese yet I dont see you saying anything about that and its because your a white person you are mentally programmed to always look like a good person no matter what. Many issues in the US would be solved if it was impossible for non white people to get into the government mainly things like these stupid wars in the middle east.

Your comments about non whites are the definition of racism plain and simply and promoting the nonsense conspiracy of white genocide.

Its not white genocide yet since the non-whites havent began to mass butcher whites but once they outnumber whites in about say 60 years it will happen regardless of what you believe in its gonna happen no matter what. Its just human nature for a tribe to dominate and destroy another tribe until it has the resources in a land. We whites killed the natives of Europe(Pre Indo-European humans) a long time ago, then my germanic ancestors killed off the celtic natives of the British Isles.As you know my british ancestors killed native americans. Blacks are not innocent either they have almost eradicated an entire race from Africa the remnants of these humans are called the San Bushmen and they are also driving the Pgymy race of Africa into endangerment. Speaking of Africa blacks were once very dominant in North Africa(as can be seen in cave paintings) but the ancestors of Libyans and Egyptians killed most of them off driving the survivors to go into the Sahara desert. East Asia was once inhabited by brown humans similar to New Guineans and Aboriginals but guess who killed them? THATS RIGHT the ancestors of all East Asians killed them off leaving a few survivors on the island of Negroes(this is a not a joke name), Phillipines and some small areas of the Malay peninsula, it was only recently that east asians got into Indonesia thats why New Guineans even still exist right now. How could I forget the Japanese genociding the actual true natives of their island thousands of years ago either. So as you can see this is nothing but human nature and you cant stop it.

The probability that this will end violently is amplified by the anti-white things shown nowadays, slavery, the wars in the M.E, colonialism are all ammunition for non-whites to focus their bloodlust at us once the outnumber us. Its already started anyway you dont notice it because its not that frequent but dont worry its gonna get more frequent as the years past. An example of a true white genocide is Haiti, South Africa and Zimbabwe. In Haiti the black population killed off the remaining whites, in South Africa the black majority is slowly killing off its white minority, and Zimbabwe well that was just a horror story. Remember African Americans have the blood of humans from these countries meaning eventually they will enact the same things on us White Americans once they outnumber us.

Should interracial marriage be banned too?

No

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Postby Ultramarr » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:49 pm

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:54 pm

Korvale wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I didn't say what the definition of white person was. I asked you what the definition of American, Canadian. etc was. It certainly doesn't mean white.

So I take it according to Don Lemon and Van Jones should be fired from CNN because their black and are promoting a black takeover? Are you serious?

All the non white officials in my state and across the country should be removed from office? What laws have they passed?

Your comments about non whites are the definition of racism plain and simply and promoting the nonsense conspiracy of white genocide.

Should interracial marriage be banned too?

Give an example to back up your ridiculous claims otherwise is nothing more than racist drivel.


I didn't say what the definition of white person was. I asked you what the definition of American, Canadian. etc was. It certainly doesn't mean white.


An American is a white person, native americans are not americans since there was no "America" before white people this was just a nameless landmass.

So I take it according to Don Lemon and Van Jones should be fired from CNN because their black and are promoting a black takeover? Are you serious?


It sounds crazy to a white person like you because you have no close connection to your own race blacks are not like that they are very tribal people that splinter based on simple ethnic differences thus a white majority land like America causes black people to unify as the white is the common outsider that the blacks can hate, remove the white and the african americans would begin to splinter like native africans in their tribes. We saw hints of splintering before the US became too connected when blacks were isolated from eachother in seperate states developing their own cultures. This is not a bad thing though.

All the non white officials in my state and across the country should be removed from office? What laws have they passed?


Well if you want to maintain a white majority then yes prevent an outsider from getting into your government I mean the freaking Japanese government is still to this day 100% Japanese yet I dont see you saying anything about that and its because your a white person you are mentally programmed to always look like a good person no matter what. Many issues in the US would be solved if it was impossible for non white people to get into the government mainly things like these stupid wars in the middle east.

Your comments about non whites are the definition of racism plain and simply and promoting the nonsense conspiracy of white genocide.

Its not white genocide yet since the non-whites havent began to mass butcher whites but once they outnumber whites in about say 60 years it will happen regardless of what you believe in its gonna happen no matter what. Its just human nature for a tribe to dominate and destroy another tribe until it has the resources in a land. We whites killed the natives of Europe(Pre Indo-European humans) a long time ago, then my germanic ancestors killed off the celtic natives of the British Isles.As you know my british ancestors killed native americans. Blacks are not innocent either they have almost eradicated an entire race from Africa the remnants of these humans are called the San Bushmen and they are also driving the Pgymy race of Africa into endangerment. Speaking of Africa blacks were once very dominant in North Africa(as can be seen in cave paintings) but the ancestors of Libyans and Egyptians killed most of them off driving the survivors to go into the Sahara desert. East Asia was once inhabited by brown humans similar to New Guineans and Aboriginals but guess who killed them? THATS RIGHT the ancestors of all East Asians killed them off leaving a few survivors on the island of Negroes(this is a not a joke name), Phillipines and some small areas of the Malay peninsula, it was only recently that east asians got into Indonesia thats why New Guineans even still exist right now. How could I forget the Japanese genociding the actual true natives of their island thousands of years ago either. So as you can see this is nothing but human nature and you cant stop it.

The probability that this will end violently is amplified by the anti-white things shown nowadays, slavery, the wars in the M.E, colonialism are all ammunition for non-whites to focus their bloodlust at us once the outnumber us. Its already started anyway you dont notice it because its not that frequent but dont worry its gonna get more frequent as the years past. An example of a true white genocide is Haiti, South Africa and Zimbabwe. In Haiti the black population killed off the remaining whites, in South Africa the black majority is slowly killing off its white minority, and Zimbabwe well that was just a horror story. Remember African Americans have the blood of humans from these countries meaning eventually they will enact the same things on us White Americans once they outnumber us.

Should interracial marriage be banned too?

No


So anyone whose not white isn't American to you even if they were born in in the country?

I could care less about maintaining a white majority and you espousing wanting to maintain one is white supremacy no matter how you phrase it.

What your saying is it should be illegal for anyone non white to be office? Im sorry to say to constitution disagrees with you. You cannot bar someone from office on the basis of religion or race.

And regarding your comments about non whites killing whites that is simply inaccurate. Has there been mass killings of white people in black majority cites? Has any black mayor or non white elected official encouraged killing white people?

You are a racist plain and simple and should take your racist drivel to your state legislature or maybe congress.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:35 pm

Korvale's posts are full of racist, eugenics bs and as a NON-WHITE AFRICAN AMERICAN (yes, Korvale, non-white Americans exist), your posts are deplorable and offensively false.
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:36 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
Minoa wrote:With all due respect, I remain firm that xenophobia is unacceptable, especially with this incident in Italy. I believe that diversity and multiculturalism is simply the acceptance of people as equal human beings. It is not a code word for some far-right conspiracy theory out there.

One guy in Italy being a terrorist doesn't mean the right is wrong. I mean I don't like the left ideologically but I don't associate all of them with terrorists like anitfa

Antifa aren't terrorists.
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https://americanvision.org/948/theonomy-vs-theocracy/ wrote:God’s law cannot govern a nation where God’s law does not rule in the hearts of the people

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Plaetopia wrote:Partly Free / Hybrid regime (score 4-6) El-Amin Caliphate (5.33)

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