Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft]

Yes, white folk are so docile, the most docile and peaceful people people in the world. Europeans, are outright pacifist when compared to those brown people. I mean even many Europeans would have a laugh at your absolutely insane notion that white people are any more peaceful than other races. Especially when people in Europe have fought wars over such ridiculous things as Cod fishing rights. But go ahead, do tell us how white folks are peaceful, especially when they've been fighting virtually nonstop wars for the past three thousand years.

I mean for fuck's sake, Europeans forged some of the largest empires in the world, and one doesn't get to form massive empires by being nice about it. Given that these not nice actions were located in Asia and Africa, you can guess that they were taken against people who were not white.

europeans are so warlike none of them want to fight

Well, the EU stopped them fighting each other

[Ultramarr]

Whites are a docile group of humans so as long as they are a majority the country will be free of interracial conflict, once whites are too small to hold back the other races in these countries there shall be bloodshed its an inevitable result of multiculturalism turning into monoculturalism with America becoming another Mexico and Europe turning into an islamic continent all with a single dominant culture. The cultures of minorities will be trampled into irrelevance in these new diverse lands as I repeat only white people work with diversity, non white people dont as they like keeping their cultures no matter what. An example are african americans driving out white americans in cities this is an example of how a non-white race doesnt want its culture dominated by another. Of course there are too little blacks for them to begin a race war with white people like what happened in Haiti and Zimbabwe.

Yes, white folk are so docile, the most docile and peaceful people people in the world. Europeans, are outright pacifist when compared to those brown people. I mean even many Europeans would have a laugh at your absolutely insane notion that white people are any more peaceful than other races. Especially when people in Europe have fought wars over such ridiculous things as Cod fishing rights. But go ahead, do tell us how white folks are peaceful, especially when they've been fighting virtually nonstop wars for the past three thousand years.

I mean for fuck's sake, Europeans forged some of the largest empires in the world, and one doesn't get to form massive empires by being nice about it. Given that these not nice actions were located in Asia and Africa, you can guess that they were taken against people who were not white.

The Europeans are no longer the great world conquers they used to be sadly and now they are becoming apathetic as many of their countries are being taken away in large swathes in their cities

[Ultramarr]

europeans are so warlike none of them want to fight

Well, the EU stopped them fighting each other

No WW2 did

[Pilarcraft]

Well, the EU stopped them fighting each other

No WW2 did

that must be why the Yugoslav wars never happened. or the Soviet Union didn't do the whole campaigns all over the eastern Europe.

[Ultramarr]

No WW2 did

that must be why the Yugoslav wars never happened. or the Soviet Union didn't do the whole campaigns all over the eastern Europe.

The Soviets were a blood thirsty evil communist empire and the allies fought the wrong people(the good guys relatively in my opinion) so obviously nobody could have stopped them then certainly not the EU if it existed.

[Pilarcraft]

that must be why the Yugoslav wars never happened. or the Soviet Union didn't do the whole campaigns all over the eastern Europe.

The Soviets were a blood thirsty evil communist empire and the allies fought the wrong people(the good guys relatively in my opinion) so obviously nobody could have stopped them then certainly not the EU if it existed.

ignoring that very well-worded and completely logical argument, that still doesn't change the fact that the European parts of the Soviet campaigns, and then the Yugoslav wars, all happened recently, and after the second world war. So, either You're not counting Eastern Europe as part of the Europe... or the WWII and the EU didn't really do shit to put a stick in the European warmachine (that... normally attacks people inside Europe, but I digress)

[Ultramarr]

The Soviets were a blood thirsty evil communist empire and the allies fought the wrong people(the good guys relatively in my opinion) so obviously nobody could have stopped them then certainly not the EU if it existed.

ignoring that very well-worded and completely logical argument, that still doesn't change the fact that the European parts of the Soviet campaigns, and then the Yugoslav wars, all happened recently, and after the second world war. So, either You're not counting Eastern Europe as part of the Europe... or the WWII and the EU didn't really do shit to put a stick in the European warmachine (that... normally attacks people inside Europe, but I digress)

The EU existed during the Bosnia and Serbia mess too and did shit all. After ww2 the amount of wars in Europe did decrease

[Baltenstein]

ignoring that very well-worded and completely logical argument, that still doesn't change the fact that the European parts of the Soviet campaigns, and then the Yugoslav wars, all happened recently, and after the second world war. So, either You're not counting Eastern Europe as part of the Europe... or the WWII and the EU didn't really do shit to put a stick in the European warmachine (that... normally attacks people inside Europe, but I digress)

The EU existed during the Bosnia and Serbia mess too and did shit all. After ww2 the amount of wars in Europe did decrease

Guess what Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia had in common in regards to the EU.

They weren't part of it.

[Aellex]

Well, the EU stopped them fighting each other

No it didn't. We explained it more than ten times to you already. The Cold War and Nuclear Weapons have stopped us from warring each other. The E.U has no part in it and if anything is most likely to be the cause of the next war in Europe when it will inevitably crumble.

[Pilarcraft]

Well, the EU stopped them fighting each other

and here I was, thinking it was the whole Mutually Assured Destruction thing so many countries have going on... I mean, not that It's doing much. they've just delegated the fightings so small states all over the world do it for them.

[Post War America]

Yes, white folk are so docile, the most docile and peaceful people people in the world. Europeans, are outright pacifist when compared to those brown people. I mean even many Europeans would have a laugh at your absolutely insane notion that white people are any more peaceful than other races. Especially when people in Europe have fought wars over such ridiculous things as Cod fishing rights. But go ahead, do tell us how white folks are peaceful, especially when they've been fighting virtually nonstop wars for the past three thousand years.

I mean for fuck's sake, Europeans forged some of the largest empires in the world, and one doesn't get to form massive empires by being nice about it. Given that these not nice actions were located in Asia and Africa, you can guess that they were taken against people who were not white.

The Europeans are no longer the great world conquers they used to be sadly and now they are becoming apathetic as many of their countries are being taken away in large swathes in their cities

But that's not being argued, at least not with the counterpoint I am making. The point I am making is that to call white people (Europeans specifically) peaceful is absolutely laughable when their pedigree involves so much killing of each other, less white people, and just other human beings generally. That Europeans may no longer be butchering themselves in the same numbers that they used to is irrelevant.

[San Lumen]

Im sorry but this sounds very racist to me. Whose culture is being trampled? You ever been to London, Paris, Toronto, Frankfurt or New York. There is no cultural clashing or islamization there.

"There is no cultural clashing or islamisation in Paris, Toronto, Frankfurt or London!"
>mfw he is actually serious

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/166/600/f4b.jpg

Did you ever actually went to any of those cities? Because it distinctly sounds like you never did.

Have you? I went to London recently and saw no cultural clashing. Plus I would add Jersey city to my list too. Its one of the most diverse and multicultural places in the world.

[Neu Leonstein]

I've been to London recently (late 2017), and nothing was clashing, nor did I see any "islamization"..........

There's a mosque not too far from where I live in NW1, and sometimes the park next to it is quite full after services. And many of those people wear non-western clothes.

I know, I can hardly contain my offendedness either.

[Naszerzeczy]

Diversity & Multiculturalism is a disease and I'm glad my home country of Poland has chosen to take a hard stance against illegal immigration.

[Korvale]

Whites are a docile group of humans so as long as they are a majority the country will be free of interracial conflict, once whites are too small to hold back the other races in these countries there shall be bloodshed its an inevitable result of multiculturalism turning into monoculturalism with America becoming another Mexico and Europe turning into an islamic continent all with a single dominant culture. The cultures of minorities will be trampled into irrelevance in these new diverse lands as I repeat only white people work with diversity, non white people dont as they like keeping their cultures no matter what. An example are african americans driving out white americans in cities this is an example of how a non-white race doesnt want its culture dominated by another. Of course there are too little blacks for them to begin a race war with white people like what happened in Haiti and Zimbabwe.

Yes, white folk are so docile, the most docile and peaceful people people in the world. Europeans, are outright pacifist when compared to those brown people. I mean even many Europeans would have a laugh at your absolutely insane notion that white people are any more peaceful than other races. Especially when people in Europe have fought wars over such ridiculous things as Cod fishing rights. But go ahead, do tell us how white folks are peaceful, especially when they've been fighting virtually nonstop wars for the past three thousand years.

I mean for fuck's sake, Europeans forged some of the largest empires in the world, and one doesn't get to form massive empires by being nice about it. Given that these not nice actions were located in Asia and Africa, you can guess that they were taken against people who were not white.

Why do you act as though white people are evil? If whites were evil no black, jew, mexican , native american would exist right now as they would have completely exterminated them a long time ago. Blacks would probably still be slaves to this day but native americans and jews would be history. The reason why is whites would remove natives from the New World to take it and jews were always hated by Europeans collectively meaning they would be genocided if whites were the violent evil beings you think they are. Oh dont go Nazi Germany either thats only one white country you are acting as though the entire european race is evil.

[Korvale]

"There is no cultural clashing or islamisation in Paris, Toronto, Frankfurt or London!"
>mfw he is actually serious

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/166/600/f4b.jpg

Did you ever actually went to any of those cities? Because it distinctly sounds like you never did.

Have you? I went to London recently and saw no cultural clashing. Plus I would add Jersey city to my list too. Its one of the most diverse and multicultural places in the world.

Diversity doesnt work at all if it did there would be no Israel/Palestine conflict.

[Neu Leonstein]

-snip-

-snip-

Have either of you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, race is an exceptionally poor prism through which to look at history? I mean most of the races you speak of today weren't even recognised as meaningful political, cultural or social categories until pretty recently, and generally only as a result of legal or policy distinction imposed from the outside by governments. Races, as you understand them today, are a product of historical processes, not a driver of them. So it really makes no sense to speak of them in the way the two of you do.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Yes, white folk are so docile, the most docile and peaceful people people in the world. Europeans, are outright pacifist when compared to those brown people. I mean even many Europeans would have a laugh at your absolutely insane notion that white people are any more peaceful than other races. Especially when people in Europe have fought wars over such ridiculous things as Cod fishing rights. But go ahead, do tell us how white folks are peaceful, especially when they've been fighting virtually nonstop wars for the past three thousand years.

I mean for fuck's sake, Europeans forged some of the largest empires in the world, and one doesn't get to form massive empires by being nice about it. Given that these not nice actions were located in Asia and Africa, you can guess that they were taken against people who were not white.

Why do you act as though white people are evil? If whites were evil no black, jew, mexican , native american would exist right now as they would have completely exterminated them a long time ago. Blacks would probably still be slaves to this day but native americans and jews would be history. The reason why is whites would remove natives from the New World to take it and jews were always hated by Europeans collectively meaning they would be genocided if whites were the violent evil beings you think they are. Oh dont go Nazi Germany either thats only one white country you are acting as though the entire european race is evil.

White people aren't inherently docile is what PWA is saying. And the only reason those atrocities you mentioned were eliminated is because people stood up against it, not because the oppressors had a change of heart.

Have you? I went to London recently and saw no cultural clashing. Plus I would add Jersey city to my list too. Its one of the most diverse and multicultural places in the world.

Diversity doesnt work at all if it did there would be no Israel/Palestine conflict.

The oppression of Palestine is not due to diversity nor multiculturalism

[El-Amin Caliphate]

-snip-

-snip-

Have either of you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, race is an exceptionally poor prism through which to look at history? I mean most of the races you speak of today weren't even recognised as meaningful political, cultural or social categories until pretty recently, and generally only as a result of legal or policy distinction imposed from the outside by governments. Races, as you understand them today, are a product of historical processes, not a driver of them. So it really makes no sense to speak of them in the way the two of you do.

You have a point. But saying "white people act like this, people of color act like that" needs a refutation. We should've gotten past that eugenics bs a long time ago.

[Korvale]

-snip-

-snip-

Have either of you ever considered that maybe, just maybe, race is an exceptionally poor prism through which to look at history? I mean most of the races you speak of today weren't even recognised as meaningful political, cultural or social categories until pretty recently, and generally only as a result of legal or policy distinction imposed from the outside by governments. Races, as you understand them today, are a product of historical processes, not a driver of them. So it really makes no sense to speak of them in the way the two of you do.

Only white people dont believe in race all others do.

The oppression of Palestine is not due to diversity nor multiculturalism

But if diversity is good why dont israelis accept muslim culture?

And the only reason those atrocities you mentioned were eliminated is because people stood up against it, not because the oppressors had a change of heart.

What stupidity, you can even see today the only reason there is any racial equality is because of white people changing their ways meaning if they didnt change we would still in those times.

[Al-Ismailiyya]

Only white people dont believe in race all others do.

Lol what?

[Korvale]

Only white people dont believe in race all others do.

Lol what?

Only white people dont believe in race is that a revelation? I see black people all the time going cracker this cracker that kill the white bitch kill that fucking honkie, mexicans call us gringos, muslims call us infidels showing they see race as they are attacking us racially with these comments.

[Aellex]

Have you? I went to London recently and saw no cultural clashing. Plus I would add Jersey city to my list too. Its one of the most diverse and multicultural places in the world.

Had the unpleasure to go to both London and Paris. You probably never strayed away from the touristic places in neither which explains your rose tinted view of them.

[The of Japan]

Calais is still having issues with asylum seekers http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/e ... 51916.html

[Post War America]

Yes, white folk are so docile, the most docile and peaceful people people in the world. Europeans, are outright pacifist when compared to those brown people. I mean even many Europeans would have a laugh at your absolutely insane notion that white people are any more peaceful than other races. Especially when people in Europe have fought wars over such ridiculous things as Cod fishing rights. But go ahead, do tell us how white folks are peaceful, especially when they've been fighting virtually nonstop wars for the past three thousand years.

I mean for fuck's sake, Europeans forged some of the largest empires in the world, and one doesn't get to form massive empires by being nice about it. Given that these not nice actions were located in Asia and Africa, you can guess that they were taken against people who were not white.

Why do you act as though white people are evil? If whites were evil no black, jew, mexican , native american would exist right now as they would have completely exterminated them a long time ago. Blacks would probably still be slaves to this day but native americans and jews would be history. The reason why is whites would remove natives from the New World to take it and jews were always hated by Europeans collectively meaning they would be genocided if whites were the violent evil beings you think they are. Oh dont go Nazi Germany either thats only one white country you are acting as though the entire european race is evil.

Once again the point I make goes sailing over the head of the person I am addressing. The point that I am making is NOT that white people are inherently genocidal monsters. It is that white folk are NOT inherently better than others in this respect.

Lol what?

Only white people dont believe in race is that a revelation? I see black people all the time going cracker this cracker that kill the white bitch kill that fucking honkie, mexicans call us gringos, muslims call us infidels showing they see race as they are attacking us racially with these comments.

White folks literally invented the concept of race. Further, at least a significant portion of white folks do believe exactly those things you say they don't believe in. This of course ignores the very people on this thread using "protecting European culture" as thinly veiled white supremacy.