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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:05 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yet you want an immigration system them wouldn't allow most people in.

Yes because the numbers are too high. I simply believe putting the country first and charity starts at home

Numbers are too high?

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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:05 pm

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Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:Another source on my "fake news list"

You mean like the BBC, MSN, CNN, Huffington post, MSNBC, and the guardian

The BBC is pretty much the only decent major news outlet in the Western hemisphere, wtf
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Postby Ultramarr » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:06 pm

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Ultramarr wrote:No he isn't you just don't like him for not being far left like yourself

Pleaaaaaaaase. I like Elizabeth Warren, and she ain't nowhere near "far left". Heck, I love RLM, and I'm pretty sure none of them is very far from the center.

The stuff you say here is far left. Also you never actually said anything about anything BPS said like his points only you don't like him

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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:06 pm

Here's a much less biased source on immigration. From a science channel (Kurzgesagt - In A Nutshell).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvOnXh3NN9w

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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:06 pm

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Ultramarr wrote:You mean like the BBC, MSN, CNN, Huffington post, MSNBC, and the guardian

The BBC is pretty much the only decent major news outlet in the Western hemisphere, wtf

Thank God I get my news from the BBC

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Postby Ultramarr » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:07 pm

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Ultramarr wrote:You mean like the BBC, MSN, CNN, Huffington post, MSNBC, and the guardian

The BBC is pretty much the only decent major news outlet in the Western hemisphere, wtf

The BBC staged a fake Muslim protest, covered up Jimmy Savile, called Poland "disgustingly white", and had a racist transgender go on a rant on their who about how the "white race" is "evil"

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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:09 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:BPS is far right bruh.

No he isn't he just criticises mass immigration and social justice and the globalists hardly "far right". Being against lots of immigration or social justice such as 3rd way feminism isn't "far right"

I'm sure lots of totally moderate centrists argue that women are inherently bad at chess.
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Postby Ultramarr » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:09 pm

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Ultramarr wrote:Yes because the numbers are too high. I simply believe putting the country first and charity starts at home

Numbers are too high?

Yes each nation belongs to its people. Imagine if Kenya was made mostly white for example( a random example I came up with) and you wouldn't think its right would you

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:09 pm

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The Empire of Pretantia wrote:BPS is far right bruh.

No he isn't he just criticises mass immigration and social justice and the globalists hardly "far right". Being against lots of immigration or social justice such as 3rd way feminism isn't "far right"

So does Sargon of Akkad but he's not far right.
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Postby Ultramarr » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:10 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:No he isn't he just criticises mass immigration and social justice and the globalists hardly "far right". Being against lots of immigration or social justice such as 3rd way feminism isn't "far right"

So does Sargon of Akkad but he's not far right.

So whats the difference between calling Sargon "far right" and BPS "far right" then. Neither are "far right"

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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:10 pm

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Liriena wrote:Pleaaaaaaaase. I like Elizabeth Warren, and she ain't nowhere near "far left". Heck, I love RLM, and I'm pretty sure none of them is very far from the center.

The stuff you say here is far left. Also you never actually said anything about anything BPS said like his points only you don't like him

I provided a link to another Youtuber who has repeatedly shown BPS to be at best incompetent and at worst dishonest in his use of sources.

Also, I don't know that I'm far left. Maybe you think I'm far left because you dislike anyone to the left of Pinochet. ;3
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:10 pm

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Liriena wrote:The BBC is pretty much the only decent major news outlet in the Western hemisphere, wtf

The BBC staged a fake Muslim protest, covered up Jimmy Savile, called Poland "disgustingly white", and had a racist transgender go on a rant on their who about how the "white race" is "evil"

[citation needed]
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Postby Ultramarr » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:11 pm

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Ultramarr wrote:The stuff you say here is far left. Also you never actually said anything about anything BPS said like his points only you don't like him

I provided a link to another Youtuber who has repeatedly shown BPS to be at best incompetent and at worst dishonest in his use of sources.

Also, I don't know that I'm far left. Maybe you think I'm far left because you dislike anyone to the left of Pinochet. ;3

I personally think Pinochet is a great man but I don't think everyone else is a leftist

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:11 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:So does Sargon of Akkad but he's not far right.

So whats the difference between calling Sargon "far right" and BPS "far right" then. Neither are "far right"

The difference is BPS is far right.

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Postby Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:11 pm

I've provided a link to a video about immigration from a fucking science channel

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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:12 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:No he isn't he just criticises mass immigration and social justice and the globalists hardly "far right". Being against lots of immigration or social justice such as 3rd way feminism isn't "far right"

So does Sargon of Akkad but he's not far right.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh... Sargon has already been flirting a bit with Holocaust denial, though. He's quickly burning through all his "classical liberal" capital.
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Postby Ultramarr » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:12 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:So whats the difference between calling Sargon "far right" and BPS "far right" then. Neither are "far right"

The difference is BPS is far right.

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You never said why only how you feel

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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:12 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
Liriena wrote:I provided a link to another Youtuber who has repeatedly shown BPS to be at best incompetent and at worst dishonest in his use of sources.

Also, I don't know that I'm far left. Maybe you think I'm far left because you dislike anyone to the left of Pinochet. ;3

I personally think Pinochet is a great man but I don't think everyone else is a leftist

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:13 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
Liriena wrote:I provided a link to another Youtuber who has repeatedly shown BPS to be at best incompetent and at worst dishonest in his use of sources.

Also, I don't know that I'm far left. Maybe you think I'm far left because you dislike anyone to the left of Pinochet. ;3

I personally think Pinochet is a great man but I don't think everyone else is a leftist

Pinochet was a great man? He was brutal dictator who kidnapped and tortured people.
Also you didn't answer my question about what you mean regarding numbers of immigrants being to high. What is wrong with having a diverse country and workforce?

You reside in one of the most multicultural and diverse cities in the world and you seek to change that somehow? Is London being diverse a threat to you somehow?
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:13 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Numbers are too high?

Yes each nation belongs to its people. Imagine if Kenya was made mostly white for example( a random example I came up with) and you wouldn't think its right would you

'made mostly white'
Do what?

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:I personally think Pinochet is a great man but I don't think everyone else is a leftist

Pinochet was a great man? He was brutal dictator who kidnapped and tortured people.
Also you didn't answer my question about what you mean regarding numbers of immigrants being to high. What is wrong with having a diverse country and workforce?

You reside in one of the most multicultural and diverse cities in the world and you seek to change that somehow? Is London being diverse a threat to you somehow?

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Postby Ultramarr » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:15 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:I personally think Pinochet is a great man but I don't think everyone else is a leftist

Pinochet was a great man? He was brutal dictator who kidnapped and tortured people.
Also you didn't answer my question about what you mean regarding numbers of immigrants being to high. What is wrong with having a diverse country and workforce?

You reside in one of the most multicultural and diverse cities in the world and you seek to change that somehow? Is London being diverse a threat to you somehow?

I personally like Pinochet's communist policy but I don't expect people to agree only that I respect the man. I never said to change what already happened only to stop more since they is already a large enough migrant population.

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Postby Community Values » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:16 pm

Ultramarr wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Numbers are too high?

Yes each nation belongs to its people. Imagine if Kenya was made mostly white for example( a random example I came up with) and you wouldn't think its right would you

A nation belongs to whoever lives there legally, by the government's permission. I wouldn't think a white Kenya is wrong either.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:16 pm

Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft wrote:Here's a much less biased source on immigration. From a science channel (Kurzgesagt - In A Nutshell).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvOnXh3NN9w

Not a bad vid.
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Postby Ultramarr » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:16 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Ultramarr wrote:Yes each nation belongs to its people. Imagine if Kenya was made mostly white for example( a random example I came up with) and you wouldn't think its right would you

'made mostly white'
Do what?

If swathes of Kenya became full of white people. Just a what if

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