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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:41 pm

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Oh shut up already, if the US was racist blacks wouldnt even be allowed to live around white people. The fact this irrelevant minority is now in all of our media despite the fact the hispanic minority has a much higher population than them speaks volumes of how not racist we are. We even make excuses for blacks all the time rather than admitting they are they way they are and nothing we can do can change them ever. Discriminated? Thats funny absolutely hilarious the fact you lash out against me proves you wrong.

Im sorry blacks are irrelevant? And we are racist when we try to prevent nonwhites from voting. We are racist when we created things called suburbs and prevented nonwhites from moving there and the effects are still felt today. There is still housing discrimination and discrimination against non whites today.

You have something against Don Lemon or Van Jones having their own show on CNN? because their black? And what do you mean by the way African Americans are?


You black americans are such racist psychos no ethnicity in the US honestly wants to live around you because of your evil behavior. No one non black actually likes you people because you have a black supremacism mentality you think its alright for you to do what you wish to non blacks because you were oppressed by us evil white people so its fair that we let you do whatever you want.

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Yes blacks are irrelevant if anything we should have far more hispanic representation in media than blacks yet for some reason this single race is always being promoted in our country and not just our country but in Europe as well.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:44 pm

Korvale wrote:You black americans

San Lumen's not black. You shoud really start asking questions instead of making assumptions.
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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:45 pm

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Luminesa wrote:...Black people are allowed to move to the suburbs, and are doing so at increasingly frequent rates.

I never said they werent today but many suburbs remain overwhelmingly white and there is a lot of racism in housing and nimbyism


Im sorry but what do you think America is? Africa? You should have no issue with white majority areas in the US if you wont protest black majority places in Africa.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:47 pm

Korvale wrote:black majority places in Africa.

It's Africa. What do you expect? Besides, Africa's already diverse (not saying other ethnicities can't move there tho if they want to)
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Postby Proctopeo » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:48 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Korvale wrote:black majority places in Africa.

It's Africa. What do you expect? Besides, Africa's already diverse (not saying other ethnicities can't move there tho if they want to)

What definition of "diverse" are we using here tho
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:48 pm

Korvale wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im sorry blacks are irrelevant? And we are racist when we try to prevent nonwhites from voting. We are racist when we created things called suburbs and prevented nonwhites from moving there and the effects are still felt today. There is still housing discrimination and discrimination against non whites today.

You have something against Don Lemon or Van Jones having their own show on CNN? because their black? And what do you mean by the way African Americans are?


You black americans are such racist psychos no ethnicity in the US honestly wants to live around you because of your evil behavior. No one non black actually likes you people because you have a black supremacism mentality you think its alright for you to do what you wish to non blacks because you were oppressed by us evil white people so its fair that we let you do whatever you want.

https://www.snopes.com/2017/12/12/phila ... ss-racist/

Yes blacks are irrelevant if anything we should have far more hispanic representation in media than blacks yet for some reason this single race is always being promoted in our country and not just our country but in Europe as well.

And you assume Im black why? For many years in the south whites did oppress blacks. Its called slavery and Jim Crow perhaps you heard of it?

There are plenty of hispanic reporters and news anchors as well.

St. Paul, MN and Helena, MT, Statesboro and Milledgeville, Ga along with Charlotte elected black mayors last year in a free and fair election. Charlotte elected their first black female mayor. Should they not be allowed serve according to you? None of those cities are majority African American. Milledgeville is 49 percent white, 47 prevent African American.

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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:48 pm

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No Im mad we keep making excuses for the african humans and dont just admit we cant do a thing about them, black americans would amount to nothing without white people they would form another stone age shithole like Haiti or dark age shithole like Liberia if left on their own without us. I doubt the mexicans or natives would even aid blacks if whites werent here.

http://www.laweekly.com/news/mexican-ma ... on-4173049

...Have you had a bad experience with a black person in your life, my dude?


Yes many times and you racist psychos justify any evil thing you do to us white people as "payback for slavery or segregation". Any country with brain cells would have evicted you black americans a long time ago I would much prefer east asians than you people.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:And you assume Im black why? For many years in the south whites did oppress blacks. Its called slavery and Jim Crow perhaps you heard of it?

In the north too.
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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:50 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
Korvale wrote:black majority places in Africa.

It's Africa. What do you expect? Besides, Africa's already diverse (not saying other ethnicities can't move there tho if they want to)


Africa is not diverse. Look at that racist psycho looking for reasons to be a racist psycho, oh its ok for NA to become Africa but Africa turning into NA is a big no no.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:50 pm

Korvale wrote:Yes many times and you racist psychos justify any evil thing you do to us white people as "payback for slavery or segregation". Any country with brain cells would have evicted you black americans a long time ago I would much prefer east asians than you people.

Luminesia's not African-American either.
Why do you assume everybody up here debating you is black?
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Postby Pilarcraft » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:51 pm

Korvale wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I never said they werent today but many suburbs remain overwhelmingly white and there is a lot of racism in housing and nimbyism


Im sorry but what do you think America is? Africa? You should have no issue with white majority areas in the US if you wont protest black majority places in Africa.

I am going to have an issue for it because Blacks didn't force their way into Africa by killing, enslaving, raping, and raiding the people it belonged to. three guesses who did.
Also. again, Africa is majority black (not in truth, most of northern Africa is diverse) because nobody is moving there. You want to blame people, blame the Europeans who aren't moving to Africa anymore (though, the last time you did, it ended with stuff like The Apartheid, so I guess it's a good thing you're forced to remain in your own continents now, amirite?)
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:51 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:
San Lumen wrote:And you assume Im black why? For many years in the south whites did oppress blacks. Its called slavery and Jim Crow perhaps you heard of it?

In the north too.

Yes that is true but they didn't make segregation the law and prevent them voting. Slavery was abolished in the Northern states via statue or constitutional amendment long before the Civil war.

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Postby Korvale » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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You black americans are such racist psychos no ethnicity in the US honestly wants to live around you because of your evil behavior. No one non black actually likes you people because you have a black supremacism mentality you think its alright for you to do what you wish to non blacks because you were oppressed by us evil white people so its fair that we let you do whatever you want.

https://www.snopes.com/2017/12/12/phila ... ss-racist/

Yes blacks are irrelevant if anything we should have far more hispanic representation in media than blacks yet for some reason this single race is always being promoted in our country and not just our country but in Europe as well.

And you assume Im black why? For many years in the south whites did oppress blacks. Its called slavery and Jim Crow perhaps you heard of it?

There are plenty of hispanic reporters and news anchors as well.

St. Paul, MN and Helena, MT, Statesboro and Milledgeville, Ga along with Charlotte elected black mayors last year in a free and fair election. Charlotte elected their first black female mayor. Should they not be allowed serve according to you? None of those cities are majority African American. Milledgeville is 49 percent white, 47 prevent African American.


Oh please our music is cluttered with black american ghetto garbage instead of hispanic gibberish, blacks are in every fucking tv show, they call it diversity when blacks are the only minorities in a movie, black this black that its all black everything for this minority that has been no use to America at all.

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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:52 pm

Korvale wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:It's Africa. What do you expect? Besides, Africa's already diverse (not saying other ethnicities can't move there tho if they want to)


Africa is not diverse. Look at that racist psycho looking for reasons to be a racist psycho, oh its ok for NA to become Africa but Africa turning into NA is a big no no.

Read the parentheses. And Africa is diverse.
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Postby USS Monitor » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:53 pm

Korvale wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Im sorry blacks are irrelevant? And we are racist when we try to prevent nonwhites from voting. We are racist when we created things called suburbs and prevented nonwhites from moving there and the effects are still felt today. There is still housing discrimination and discrimination against non whites today.

You have something against Don Lemon or Van Jones having their own show on CNN? because their black? And what do you mean by the way African Americans are?


You black americans are such racist psychos no ethnicity in the US honestly wants to live around you because of your evil behavior. No one non black actually likes you people because you have a black supremacism mentality you think its alright for you to do what you wish to non blacks because you were oppressed by us evil white people so its fair that we let you do whatever you want.

https://www.snopes.com/2017/12/12/phila ... ss-racist/

Yes blacks are irrelevant if anything we should have far more hispanic representation in media than blacks yet for some reason this single race is always being promoted in our country and not just our country but in Europe as well.


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Postby Telconi » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:53 pm

Korvale wrote:
Luminesa wrote:...Have you had a bad experience with a black person in your life, my dude?


Yes many times and you racist psychos justify any evil thing you do to us white people as "payback for slavery or segregation". Any country with brain cells would have evicted you black americans a long time ago I would much prefer east asians than you people.


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>Calls other people psychos...
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Postby El-Amin Caliphate » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:40 pm

I have some questions for those who support monoculturalism:
Should non-Arabs stop using Arabic numerals and revert back to their own numerals?
What do y'all think of foreign language classes?
The Western-style toilet is seen as inferior to the toilet where you crouch over it. Should Westerners switch to the Eastern-style toilet or stay with the Western-style toilet?
Should Eastern countries who are consdiered 'Westernized' be re-Easternized?
How do monoculturalists think minority groups should be treated?
Should indigenous people fight for their right to their own land?
The Chinese are considered the 1st to use gunpowder and spread their idea of it to other areas. Does that mean non-Chinese cultures shouldn't use gunpowder to "maintain" their cultures?
One of the motives of the Mexican-American war was to take land from Mexico and incorporate it into the US. Americans immigrated into these areas and many Mexicans were deported from former Mexican lands into Mexico. Do monoculturalists support this?

This question is specifically to Ultramarr:
Your definition of a 'native' of a land is someone who migrates to and 'develops' the land. Let's say that the present day immigrants and refugees coming into European countries become the majority group and develop the country. Would you support them being 'native' to said European country?
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Postby The Conez Imperium » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
El-Amin Caliphate wrote:In the north too.

Yes that is true but they didn't make segregation the law and prevent them voting. Slavery was abolished in the Northern states via statue or constitutional amendment long before the Civil war.


That's such a weak argument considering the country went to war over the right to keep slaves. I mean bloody hell.
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Postby San Lumen » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:52 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Yes that is true but they didn't make segregation the law and prevent them voting. Slavery was abolished in the Northern states via statue or constitutional amendment long before the Civil war.


That's such a weak argument considering the country went to war over the right to keep slaves. I mean bloody hell.

Im well aware of that. The Confederacy was literally founded on the institution of slavery.

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Postby Crazed Pirates » Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:07 pm

El-Amin Caliphate wrote:I have some questions for those who support monoculturalism:
Should non-Arabs stop using Arabic numerals and revert back to their own numerals?
What do y'all think of foreign language classes?
The Western-style toilet is seen as inferior to the toilet where you crouch over it. Should Westerners switch to the Eastern-style toilet or stay with the Western-style toilet?
Should Eastern countries who are consdiered 'Westernized' be re-Easternized?
How do monoculturalists think minority groups should be treated?
Should indigenous people fight for their right to their own land?
The Chinese are considered the 1st to use gunpowder and spread their idea of it to other areas. Does that mean non-Chinese cultures shouldn't use gunpowder to "maintain" their cultures?
One of the motives of the Mexican-American war was to take land from Mexico and incorporate it into the US. Americans immigrated into these areas and many Mexicans were deported from former Mexican lands into Mexico. Do monoculturalists support this?

This question is specifically to Ultramarr:
Your definition of a 'native' of a land is someone who migrates to and 'develops' the land. Let's say that the present day immigrants and refugees coming into European countries become the majority group and develop the country. Would you support them being 'native' to said European country?

Indian numerals. Arabs actually took it from those guys (and turned them into something horrible as far as I remember). The answer is no - why should we destroy a system that works well?
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No, no, absolutely not. Trust me on this.
Either they had already, or they aren't going to. Also, depends on what counts as Western.
Zero special government treatment, but no restrictions. Minority languages only in private schools, for example. This usually works well - a culture strengthens when it is being actively fought well, but a weak culture withers in mere presence of a stronger one.
They should. Of course, their rulers shouldn't sell them out, too (looking at you, Qing China and EU)
Gunpowder is not a cultural thing, and if we're going that way, non-Western cultures aren't allowed to use smokeless powder (and AKs - this is cultural appropriation!).
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:15 pm

I wonder what monoculturalists think of the Olympics...
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Kubumba Tribe wrote:I wonder what monoculturalists think of the Olympics...


Well Germany hosted the '36 Olympics, and we heard what ol' Adolf had to say about it...
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:56 pm

Telconi wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:I wonder what monoculturalists think of the Olympics...


Well Germany hosted the '36 Olympics, and we heard what ol' Adolf had to say about it...

Who cares what that evil despicable man had to say.

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Postby Proctopeo » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:10 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Well Germany hosted the '36 Olympics, and we heard what ol' Adolf had to say about it...

Who cares what that evil despicable man had to say.

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Kubumba Tribe wrote:I wonder what monoculturalists think of the Olympics...

Monoculturalists advocate a unified national culture but support multiculturalism on a global level
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