Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[Kubumba Tribe]

Depends on which Islamists you're talking about.

All of them.

Not all Islamists act the same

It is diversity.

How? I'm pretty sure 'diversity' in the OP isn't about political diversity.

True

Alright, El-Amin.
Non-muslim majority nations should not implement Shariah.
Shariah itself is backwards and its implementation would lead to a misuse of it leading to a Saudi Arabia-esque situation in the West.

Source - I'm a muslim.

I'll TG you about this

Great, so you're intolerant in your own way. Good to know.

Are you not intolerant of violence and oppression?

[Kubumba Tribe]

(notably the Ottoman Empire)

I like that Empire too.

(which is just a direct spit in the face of Ataturk)

AlHamdulillah. Secularism has no place in our Ummah.

[Absurdity]

Are you not intolerant of violence and oppression?

I am intolerant of Palestinian aggression, terrorism, and anti-Semitism.

But I'm sure you think those are perfectly fine, along with murdering women and children. Gotta kill all those pesky Jewish occupiers, am I right?

[Kubumba Tribe]

Are you not intolerant of violence and oppression?

I am intolerant of Palestinian aggression, terrorism, and anti-Semitism.

Defense =/= agressiong (unless you're talking about Hamas), but I don't debate about rl life-and-death situations, so we'll have to drop this

Gotta kill all those pesky Jewish occupiers, am I right?

I need you to show proof where I support this.

[Absurdity]

I am intolerant of Palestinian aggression, terrorism, and anti-Semitism.

Defense =/= agressiong (unless you're talking about Hamas), but I don't debate about rl life-and-death situations, so we'll have to drop this

There is no such thing as Palestinian defense, only aggression, terrorism, and murder.

I don't know what life-and-death situations you're referring to. I am not only referring to Hamas, but Fatah and the entire Palestinian Authority.

I need you to show proof where I support this.

Are you saying that you do not support murdering the Jewish occupiers and uprooting the evil Zionist regime?

[Kubumba Tribe]

Are you saying that you do not support murdering the Jewish occupiers

No

and uprooting the evil Zionist regime?

That I support.

[Al-Ismailiyya]

Defense =/= agressiong (unless you're talking about Hamas), but I don't debate about rl life-and-death situations, so we'll have to drop this

There is no such thing as Palestinian defense, only aggression, terrorism, and murder.

I don't know what life-and-death situations you're referring to. I am not only referring to Hamas, but Fatah and the entire Palestinian Authority.

I need you to show proof where I support this.

Are you saying that you do not support murdering the Jewish occupiers and uprooting the evil Zionist regime?

Are you serious right now?

[Absurdity]

Are you serious right now?

Probably.

Are you saying that you do not support murdering the Jewish occupiers

No

Why not? They are foreign invaders committing genocide after all.

That I support.

Uh-huh. And how will this "uprooting" be achieved? (It will never happen, be’ezrat HaShem)

[Al-Ismailiyya]

Why not? They are foreign invaders committing genocide after all.

Because not every Jew or even every Israeli is guilty of the crimes of the Israeli government.

[The Conez Imperium]

Unemployment rates in Brussels are in the margins of 16.9% and it's unlikely that they will be able to find new jobs considering the fast rate of automation of low skilled jobs (i.e automatic cars). Under no way am I saying that since there are a few problems an entire demographic is accursed but just that responsible immigration is important.

???? Unemployment rate is not 16.9%

[Kubumba Tribe]

Why not? They are foreign invaders committing genocide after all.

Because not every Jew or even every Israeli is guilty of the crimes of the Israeli government.

That's what I was gonna say.

[Greater Victora]

It is my own humble opinion that as long as you aren't harming others or cramming your culture down other's throats, I don't give a damn what culture you are and neither should anyone else.

[Officer Gul Dukat]

Unemployment rates in Brussels are in the margins of 16.9% and it's unlikely that they will be able to find new jobs considering the fast rate of automation of low skilled jobs (i.e automatic cars). Under no way am I saying that since there are a few problems an entire demographic is accursed but just that responsible immigration is important.

???? Unemployment rate is not 16.9%

https://www.statista.com/statistics/528 ... by-region/

[Absurdity]

Why not? They are foreign invaders committing genocide after all.

Because not every Jew or even every Israeli is guilty of the crimes of the Israeli government.

Oh, come on. They're all complicit.

So, you support the killings of Israelis, be them men, women, or children, complicit in the Israeli government's "crimes"? How would you even determine who is "guilty"? I could understand viewing government ministers and the IDF as guilty, but what about private citizens?

And what of those not complicit? What happens to them?

[Kubumba Tribe]

Because not every Jew or even every Israeli is guilty of the crimes of the Israeli government.

Oh, come on. They're all complicit.

So, you support the killings of Israelis, be them men, women, or children, complicit in the Israeli government's "crimes"?

He never said that, stop putting words in people's mouths pls.

[Al-Ismailiyya]

Because not every Jew or even every Israeli is guilty of the crimes of the Israeli government.

Oh, come on. They're all complicit.

So, you support the killings of Israelis, be them men, women, or children, complicit in the Israeli government's "crimes"? How would you even determine who is "guilty"? I could understand viewing government ministers and the IDF as guilty, but what about private citizens?

And what of those not complicit? What happens to them?

Holy shit. This is exactly like that meme from the Jordan Peterson interview. You are capable of arguing without just shoving words into other people's mouths, right?

I am in favour of punishing those who slaughter villagers, those who evict Palestinians from their homes in order to build settlements, etc. The average Israeli is not at fault for that. Not even the entirety of the IDF is at fault for that.

[Kubumba Tribe]

http://ifamericaknew.org/
https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aje/PalestineRemix/
https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/mi ... rritories/
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... nce-213957

[Kubumba Tribe]

Oh, come on. They're all complicit.

So, you support the killings of Israelis, be them men, women, or children, complicit in the Israeli government's "crimes"? How would you even determine who is "guilty"? I could understand viewing government ministers and the IDF as guilty, but what about private citizens?

And what of those not complicit? What happens to them?

Holy shit. This is exactly like that meme from the Jordan Peterson interview. You are capable of arguing without just shoving words into other people's mouths, right?

I am in favour of punishing those who slaughter villagers, those who evict Palestinians from their homes in order to build settlements, etc. The average Israeli is not at fault for that. Not even the entirety of the IDF is at fault for that.

We can't even really blame the IDF, because isn't it compulsory to make Israelis serve military time?

[Officer Gul Dukat]

I like how this forum has basically degenerated into a Israel v Palestine thing.

[Kubumba Tribe]

I like how this forum has basically degenerated into a Israel v Palestine thing.

It's devolved into "black vs white" and "Muslim vs non-Muslim" a lot more than "Israel vs Palestine".

[Al-Ismailiyya]

Holy shit. This is exactly like that meme from the Jordan Peterson interview. You are capable of arguing without just shoving words into other people's mouths, right?

I am in favour of punishing those who slaughter villagers, those who evict Palestinians from their homes in order to build settlements, etc. The average Israeli is not at fault for that. Not even the entirety of the IDF is at fault for that.

We can't even really blame the IDF, because isn't it compulsory to make Israelis serve military time?

Yes.

I like how this forum has basically degenerated into a Israel v Palestine thing.

You are right. We should get back on topic.

[Convaria]

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. It's simple respect and decency

[Absurdity]

Oh, come on. They're all complicit.

So, you support the killings of Israelis, be them men, women, or children, complicit in the Israeli government's "crimes"? How would you even determine who is "guilty"? I could understand viewing government ministers and the IDF as guilty, but what about private citizens?

And what of those not complicit? What happens to them?

I am in favour of punishing those who slaughter villagers, those who evict Palestinians from their homes in order to build settlements, etc. The average Israeli is not at fault for that. Not even the entirety of the IDF is at fault for that.

Punishing them how? Also, slaughtering villagers? What? You're aware Irgun and Lehi no longer exist, right? What "slaughters" are you referring to?

Also, you've avoided the question: what happens to Israelis not complicit in the crimes you're referring to?

Oh, come on. They're all complicit.

So, you support the killings of Israelis, be them men, women, or children, complicit in the Israeli government's "crimes"?

He never said that, stop putting words in people's mouths pls.

You said you didn't support killing Israelis, I asked "Why not?", and he basically said #notallIsraelis, leading me to infer that killings were not completely off the table.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. It's simple respect and decency

It's not 'disrespect' to be proud of who you are. Nor is it 'indecent'.

[Alvecia]

When in Rome, do as the Romans do. It's simple respect and decency

It's not 'disrespect' to be proud of who you are.

Depends on who you are, I suppose.