Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[Kubumba Tribe]

Bay'ah like other feudal pledges of allegiance isn't voluntary. You've twisted the jurisprudence to produce Americanist conclusions.

It's not feudal, it's Islamic. And it is voluntary. If the majority favors the Khalifah (Caliph), then he becomes Khalifah of the Khilafah.

[HMS Queen Elizabeth]

Bay'ah like other feudal pledges of allegiance isn't voluntary. You've twisted the jurisprudence to produce Americanist conclusions.

It's not feudal, it's Islamic. And it is voluntary. If the majority favors the Khalifah (Caliph), then he becomes Khalifah of the Khilafah.

A legitimate caliph has the right to compel obedience, so majorities have no special relevance. The caliph only needs the fighting men on his side and even then they can be conscripts. This is how Islam has always worked.

[Kubumba Tribe]

It's not feudal, it's Islamic. And it is voluntary. If the majority favors the Khalifah (Caliph), then he becomes Khalifah of the Khilafah.

A legitimate caliph has the right to compel obedience, so majorities have no special relevance. The caliph only needs the fighting men on his side and even then they can be conscripts. This is how Islam has always worked.

I wanna say "stop talking" but that might get me warned by the mods.
So let's just stop here.

[Taihei Tengoku]

A legitimate caliph has the right to compel obedience, so majorities have no special relevance. The caliph only needs the fighting men on his side and even then they can be conscripts. This is how Islam has always worked.

I wanna say "stop talking" but that might get me warned by the mods.
So let's just stop here.

So you said it anyways?

[Kubumba Tribe]

I wanna say "stop talking" but that might get me warned by the mods.
So let's just stop here.

So you said it anyways?

What?

[Taihei Tengoku]

So you said it anyways?

What?

You said what you wanted to say to HMS QE while declaring that you weren't going to do so.

[Kubumba Tribe]

What?

You said what you wanted to say to HMS QE while declaring that you weren't going to do so.

If you're talking about me wantign to tell her to "stop talking", I didn't. That was more me stopping the talk.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Bay'ah like other feudal pledges of allegiance isn't voluntary. You've twisted the jurisprudence to produce Americanist conclusions.

Bay'ah predates conventional feudalism, though. Caliphs have no right to compel allegiance. Especially when they are elected illegitimately. As was the case of when Abu Bakr forced allegiance from Ali and killed Fatima.

[San Lumen]

I agree with you. exchanging ideas and gaining something has made places like London, Buenos Aires, Frankfurt, Jersey City and Toronto what they are. True melting pots.

Jersey City. Sometimes I think you are a pro troll.

What do you have against Jersey City?

[Holy Tedalonia]

Jersey City. Sometimes I think you are a pro troll.

What do you have against Jersey City?

What is there not to like about Jersey City?

[Farnhamia]

I agree with you. exchanging ideas and gaining something has made places like London, Buenos Aires, Frankfurt, Jersey City and Toronto what they are. True melting pots.

Jersey City. Sometimes I think you are a pro troll.

*** Warned for troll-naming. ***

If you think someone's trolling report them.

[Hammer Britannia]

What do you have against Jersey City?

What is there not to like about Jersey City?

The fact that it is in New Jersey

[Holy Tedalonia]

What is there not to like about Jersey City?

The fact that it is in New Jersey

Did I phrase that wrong crap... meant the other way around

[San Lumen]

The fact that it is in New Jersey

Did I phrase that wrong crap... meant the other way around

And what wrong with Jersey City? You ever been there?

[Holy Tedalonia]

Did I phrase that wrong crap... meant the other way around

And what wrong with Jersey City? You ever been there?

I had a few relatives who had a terrible experience there, suffice to say from what I've heard it's not that great.

[San Lumen]

And what wrong with Jersey City? You ever been there?

I had a few relatives who had a terrible experience there, suffice to say from what I've heard it's not that great.

Im sorry they had a bad experience. I have friends there and they like it quite a bit.

[Holy Tedalonia]

I had a few relatives who had a terrible experience there, suffice to say from what I've heard it's not that great.

Im sorry they had a bad experience. I have friends there and they like it quite a bit.

Well, every state has its problems, and some people get to experience them worse then others. I think Texas is amazing and I know people who'd differ in their opinion.

[San Lumen]

Im sorry they had a bad experience. I have friends there and they like it quite a bit.

Well, every state has its problems, and some people get to experience them worse then others. I think Texas is amazing and I know people who'd differ in their opinion.

That is very true. No place is perfect.

[Chernoslavia]

Lord, this post sure isn't going to anger a lot of people.

I don't care for the opinion of others. What matters is I have found my peace.

Plus, I do not view Islam as just a middle eastern religion. Its a religion for the entire world.

Or if someone does use the logic that Islam is a middle eastern religion, then so is Christianity.

Generally I wouldn’t care what these pseudo-Islamic hipsters say just as long as they don’t force that way of thinking on others like I’ve recently witnessed.

So I'm a hipster for just posting what I posted? Even though I don't tree hug?

I dunno. Why did you turn to Islam? Also, Muslims don’t tree hug either so I don’t see what prompted that.

[Trumptonium]

Did I phrase that wrong crap... meant the other way around

And what wrong with Jersey City? You ever been there?

What's good in Jersey City? you ever been there?

[San Lumen]

And what wrong with Jersey City? You ever been there?

What's good in Jersey City? you ever been there?

Yes i have. Its one of the most diverse and multicultural cities in the world. It has lots of economic opportunity and great public transit.

[Post War America]

What's good in Jersey City? you ever been there?

Yes i have. Its one of the most diverse and multicultural cities in the world. It has lots of economic opportunity and great public transit.

Meh, I prefer Montréal, Boston, and Madrid personally, but to each their own.

[Naifon]

While I do feel that diversity is introduced frivolously to systems at times (see: affirmative action), it is also a necessary phenomenon. I would never reject a region on the grounds of its diversity, insofar said diversity was not artificially created. Bulwarks against natural diversity (i.e. racist housing laws) can go too.

[San Lumen]

While I do feel that diversity is introduced frivolously to systems at times (see: affirmative action), it is also a necessary phenomenon. I would never reject a region on the grounds of its diversity, insofar said diversity was not artificially created. Bulwarks against natural diversity (i.e. racist housing laws) can go too.

I agree its nessacery but how is introduced frivolously. Affirmative action is not used for population of cities.

Suburbs are a prime example of bulwarks against natural diversity. They were founded on racism.

[Trumptonium]

What's good in Jersey City? you ever been there?

Yes i have. Its one of the most diverse and multicultural cities in the world. It has lots of economic opportunity and great public transit.

And economic opportunity and great public transit doesn't exist in non-multicultural cities?

I don't understand your point. Are you making one?