Is Diversity and Multiculturalism a Good or Bad Thing?

[Sanctissima]

Funny which civilization they all chose to emulate. :^)

I guess longhouses and hovels lost their appeal when they saw all the nice shiny palaces and aqueducts the Romans had built and finally put two-and-two together.

Yet they still engaged in savagery and tried to destroy Europe twice. They are now working on a third time.

But TEM, the Anglo is Germanic too.

Moral quandary? :^)

[San Lumen]

What in the world are you talking about? Canada is one of the most multicultural countries in the world and proof that diversity and multiculturalism works. It gets more diverse every year.

It works so well that they are compromised by a foreign power. I'd like to see your comments on my post proving German weakness as well.

In what way is Canada compromised by a foreign power? Are they a puppet of some other country? Germany is by no means weak.

[Genivaria]

Yet they still engaged in savagery and tried to destroy Europe twice. They are now working on a third time.

But TEM, the Anglo is Germanic too.

Moral quandary? :^)

Queen Boudica did nothing wrong. *nods*

[The East Marches II]

Yet they still engaged in savagery and tried to destroy Europe twice. They are now working on a third time.

But TEM, the Anglo is Germanic too.

Moral quandary? :^)

No quandry. They merely express that desire to destroy Europe by preventing it from uniting. :^)

[Reformed Corea]

It works so well that they are compromised by a foreign power. I'd like to see your comments on my post proving German weakness as well.

In what way is Canada compromised by a foreign power? Are they a puppet of some other country? Germany is by no means weak.

Well, Canada is a commonwealth of Britain.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Why won't countries model after Canada?

I didn't know Canada had a model for others to model after.

[Taihei Tengoku]

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But the real story is that productivity growth in western countries has been trending relentlessly down since the 1970s and since 2008 has been approaching stagnation. Which coincides with the modern period of rapidly increasing immigration, especially of visible minority populations. Increasing diversity and rate of productivity growth are essentially anti-correlated. Which doesn't mean there is a direct causal relationship, but it flies in the face of the claim that increasing diversity leads to increased economic productivity. The peak of productivity growth occurred when western countries were still mostly homogenous.

solow curve qed

Japan and South Korea follow trend (Japan basically at the Western rate, South Korea on a slight lag), and the PRC is approaching the elbow as its labor pool begins to shrink. None of the three has had any appreciable increase in diversity--in fact the PRC is probably more homogenous now than in 1917 due to Simplified Chinese and Han colonization of the hinterlands. Singapore is far and away the wealthiest "real" (non-rentier) economy in the world and it was diverse before it was wealthy.

In a spergiastic sense yes the anticorrelation still exists but is the anticorrelation useful at all? I dunno really economic growth after the subsistence income bands depends on cities now which are 1) diverse 2) more productive than homogenous hinterlands 3) also outperform on other social indices

[Austrasien]

So, IQ doesn't change in people? I thought they fluctuate.

I.Q does change, do not listen to him and his beliefs which were literally developed in in earlier centuries, and in terribly made studies in the 60's.
Seriously, psychologists do not debate this.

Your relative position in your cohort does not change meaningfully in adulthood and only weakly as a child. You are mixing everything up.

Someone who has a median IQ among their peers at age 18 will still be at the median of those same peers at age 36 and age 72. Over the same time, their IQ might go up and down somewhat in absolute terms, and their relative position in the entire population might change because until recently IQs were tending to rise with each generation and it tends to drop in old age even absent any illness, but unless a degenerative disease set in they will remain about where they were among their peers for life. IQ in that sense really does measure something which is fixed.

If you meet someone in high school who seems like they are average intelligence and meet them again at your high school reunion decades later the chance of them having suddenly become a genius is nil. The chance of them now being intellectually disabled is also nil unless they had some serious disease or injury. They will almost certainly be exactly as you remember them: Average. In all likelihood, this will be true even in elementary school.

[The East Marches II]

It works so well that they are compromised by a foreign power. I'd like to see your comments on my post proving German weakness as well.

In what way is Canada compromised by a foreign power? Are they a puppet of some other country? Germany is by no means weak.

I already explained and I already explained. You can ignore the evidence if you like. I doubt you've any intention of confronting the facts as they would collapse your worldview.

[Reformed Corea]

Why won't countries model after Canada?

I didn't know Canada had a model for others to model after.

Welfare(pension), Free Healthcare,

[Tekeristan]

You're free to pull quotes, especially from the verdicts, to support that. Seriously? "Yea, this only proves me."
Every word I continue to doubt your so called 'scientific credentials'.

It's the same tactic as presenting me with a list of 40 black "scientists": "Hey, go and prove every single one of them isn't as good as Einstein! It'll be over here sipping my Bud Lite." If you just link an article and imply it proves you right I don't have to say anything more than that it doesn't.

The hell is equalism?

The belief in human biological equality.

What does it have to deal with race here? If you were to follow IQ, then the Asians have higher ones, and they did that.

Well then I guess it can't possibly be true that anyone has different intelligences? I mean, if I believed that people had different skill at running I'd have to admit I'm not the world's greatest runner. Since obviously I am, even though obviously I'm not, the most logical conclusion is that everyone in the world is equally good at running.

Centrism is one hell of a drug.

Also, how does equalism refer to, you know, western countries? How does it relate here?

Equalism seems to be the state ideology of the USA. It's in the Declaration: "We hold this truth to be self-evidence, that all men are created equal". But hey-oo, IQ tests came along and kinda blew this "self-evidence truth" out of the water what with proving it to be totally false.

And now I see what I am dealing with, right.
So does Black Lives Matter, Feminism, Socialism, Communism, but by god none of them in their core beliefs believe in actual genocide. Especially based on stuff as narrow minded and vague as I.Q.

Yes, ultimately these groups want to get rid of everyone of high ability. They will tell you they disavow violent genocide (and Nazis say the same), saying instead they favour peaceful-ish ways of eliminating high ability people like dysgenic immigration and fertility, property transfers from high to low ability people, etc.

I don't need to read for you, a self-proclaimed 'scientist'. You'd think you'd have the training and endurance to read a paper, don't you? I've had my skim, have yours. I doubt you have any credentials.

But sure, I can also just find some more, smaller, easier to read quotes.

DNA studies do not indicate that separate classifiable subspecies (races) exist within modern humans. While different genes for physical traits such as skin and hair color can be identified between individuals, no consistent patterns of genes across the human genome exist to distinguish one race from another. There also is no genetic basis for divisions of human ethnicity.

For centuries, scholars have sought to comprehend patterns in nature by classifying living things. The only living species in the human family, Homo sapiens, has become a highly diversified global array of populations. The geographic pattern of genetic variation within this array is complex, and presents no major discontinuity. Humanity cannot be classified into discrete geographic categories with absolute boundaries. Furthermore, the complexities of human history make it difficult to determine the position of certain groups in classifications. Multiplying subcategories cannot correct the inadequacies of these classifications.

With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them. In neighboring populations there is much overlapping of genes and their phenotypic (physical) expressions. Throughout history whenever different groups have come into contact, they have interbred. The continued sharing of genetic materials has maintained all of humankind as a single species.

Scientific Consensus follows the above. If you do not follow it, and you're most certainly not a scientist in that field, than your idea of such is increasingly invalid.

"While cranial capacity is an accurate measure of brain size, the fallacy was in assuming that a larger cranial capacity (and brain) correlates with higher intelligence. The size of the brain itself is not a measure of intelligence."

"Increasingly, evidence has been suggesting that environment plays a large role in IQ. This started with the discovery of the Flynn effect — the realization that national average IQ scores were increasing over time at a rate much faster than could be explained by genetics (and, interestingly, ethnic minorities were often making the biggest leaps)." http://www.intelltheory.com/flynneffect.shtml - http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/st ... /flynn.pdf

"Essentially, some degree of genetically-determined IQ exists, but the degree to which it develops is dependent on how intellectually-stimulating their environment as children is." - https://www.psychologytoday.com/files/u ... _2003_.pdf - " ther explanations, such as the stereotype threat, racial discrimination in the education system, lack of funding for schools in poor areas, more talented teachers avoiding teaching at schools in poor areas, and even differences in diet have been offered."

In the end: Adaption doesn't work like that. But on with the show!

"Yes, ultimately these groups want to get rid of everyone of high ability."

Black Lives Matter: "We want police to stop shooting (black) people." - Further, it touches on the socioeconomic issues between black and white
Feminism: "We want to end discrimination against females." - Again, it does exist. Sadly movements have went after man-splaining then, say, the social side of it where my mother literally cannot talk to contractors building on her land because she is a woman. Or abuse in women shelters and the avoidance of rape-victims.
Socialism: "We want people to have the stuff they make." - Do not divert the conversation to this.

Nazism: "We want to exterminate the inferior peoples for our glory." - No, the Nazis did not say they weren't going to genocide. They quite openly stated they wanted to remove the inferiors and the parasites, whether by shipping them out, or, later, as we all discovered, shooting, gasing, starving, and so forthing them.

Yea. That's sure equal. And I'm sure all small farmers are poorer because they just have less personal ability, not like its a life you're usually born to or anything, like most rich peeps.

[Sanctissima]

But TEM, the Anglo is Germanic too.

Moral quandary? :^)

No quandry. They merely express that desire to destroy Europe by preventing it from uniting. :^)

T-the Concert of Vienna was clearly not a British plot to divide Europe in perpetuity.

Away with these Austrian lies!

[San Lumen]

In what way is Canada compromised by a foreign power? Are they a puppet of some other country? Germany is by no means weak.

I already explained and I already explained. You can ignore the evidence if you like. I doubt you've any intention of confronting the facts as they would collapse your worldview.

Im not ignoring evidence. Your making ridiculous claims without any proof. You've clearly never visited places like San Francisco, Toronto, London or Frankfurt or Jersey City.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Welfare(pension), Free Healthcare,

That's not a model for multiculturalism, nor for diversity.

[The East Marches II]

I already explained and I already explained. You can ignore the evidence if you like. I doubt you've any intention of confronting the facts as they would collapse your worldview.

Im not ignoring evidence. Your making ridiculous claims without any proof.

I linked you the proofadoodledoo though. :^)

I've visited most of those cities. We've been over that too. Just address the previous posts. Unless you believe weakness isn't a bad thing.

[San Lumen]

Im not ignoring evidence. Your making ridiculous claims without any proof.

I linked you the proofadoodledoo though. :^)

I've visited most of those cities. We've been over that too. Just address the previous posts. Unless you believe weakness isn't a bad thing.

Canada and Germany aren't weak.

[Tekeristan]

I linked you the proofadoodledoo though. :^)

I've visited most of those cities. We've been over that too. Just address the previous posts. Unless you believe weakness isn't a bad thing.

Canada and Germany aren't weak.

In a world of TOTAL WAR (which doesn't exist but don't worry about that) they are.
But all nations are capable of mobilization, really. We just don't have reasons to anymore.

[Sanctissima]

I linked you the proofadoodledoo though. :^)

I've visited most of those cities. We've been over that too. Just address the previous posts. Unless you believe weakness isn't a bad thing.

Canada and Germany aren't weak.

>tfw, you're Canadian but can't really argue otherwise

Canada's military is about 1/20th the size of the US. Economically, we're strong, but in the event of an actual war, we'd probably surrender before the first shot was fired.

[San Lumen]

Canada and Germany aren't weak.

>tfw, you're Canadian but can't really argue otherwise

Canada's military is about 1/20th the size of the US. Economically, we're strong, but in the event of an actual war, we'd probably surrender before the first shot was fired.

Canada has a very good military and I doubt they would surrender. For the record im not Canadian. Im from New York one of the best examples of how multiculturalism and diversity works in the world.

[The East Marches II]

I linked you the proofadoodledoo though. :^)

I've visited most of those cities. We've been over that too. Just address the previous posts. Unless you believe weakness isn't a bad thing.

Canada and Germany aren't weak.

You are right, only stronk countries roll over to both Russia and Turkey. At last I truly see.

[Tekeristan]

>tfw, you're Canadian but can't really argue otherwise

Canada's military is about 1/20th the size of the US. Economically, we're strong, but in the event of an actual war, we'd probably surrender before the first shot was fired.

Canada has a very good military and I doubt they would surrender. For the record im not Canadian. Im from New York one of the best examples of how multiculturalism and diversity works in the world.

If Belgium could stand against the Germans in World War 1 and in World War Electric Boogalo, by damn they can do it again. Oh, also Canadians.
War be changed.

[Sanctissima]

>tfw, you're Canadian but can't really argue otherwise

Canada's military is about 1/20th the size of the US. Economically, we're strong, but in the event of an actual war, we'd probably surrender before the first shot was fired.

Canada has a very good military and I doubt they would surrender. For the record im not Canadian. Im from New York one of the best examples of how multiculturalism and diversity works in the world.

Canada has a highly trained military, but we have no nukes, barely any functional air squadrons or navy, and 50,000 active-duty soldiers plus roughly 40,000 reserves couldn't hold out against the sheer massive military of the US for long.

If the US one day decides to give up Neoliberalism and go full Imperium Americum, and my country still hasn't decided to actually invest in our military, we're fucked.

And New York City is one of the most ghettoized cities in the US, so I'd hardly call it a multicultural success story.

[San Lumen]

Canada has a very good military and I doubt they would surrender. For the record im not Canadian. Im from New York one of the best examples of how multiculturalism and diversity works in the world.

Canada has a highly trained military, but we have no nukes, barely any functional air squadrons or navy, and 50,000 active-duty soldiers plus roughly 40,000 reserves couldn't hold out against the sheer massive military of the US for long.

If the US one day decides to give up Neoliberalism and go full Imperium Americum, and my country still hasn't decided to actually invest in our military, we're fucked.

And New York City is one of the most ghettoized cities in the US, so I'd hardly call it a multicultural success story.

New York is ghettoized? I reside here and I wouldn't call it that at all.

[Sanctissima]

Canada has a highly trained military, but we have no nukes, barely any functional air squadrons or navy, and 50,000 active-duty soldiers plus roughly 40,000 reserves couldn't hold out against the sheer massive military of the US for long.

If the US one day decides to give up Neoliberalism and go full Imperium Americum, and my country still hasn't decided to actually invest in our military, we're fucked.

And New York City is one of the most ghettoized cities in the US, so I'd hardly call it a multicultural success story.

New York is ghettoized? I reside here and I wouldn't call it that at all.

Then by all means explain the existence of Harlem and Chinatown.

[Tekeristan]

Canada has a very good military and I doubt they would surrender. For the record im not Canadian. Im from New York one of the best examples of how multiculturalism and diversity works in the world.

Canada has a highly trained military, but we have no nukes, barely any functional air squadrons or navy, and 50,000 active-duty soldiers plus roughly 40,000 reserves couldn't hold out against the sheer massive military of the US for long.

If the US one day decides to give up Neoliberalism and go full Imperium Americum, and my country still hasn't decided to actually invest in our military, we're fucked.

And New York City is one of the most ghettoized cities in the US, so I'd hardly call it a multicultural success story.

I don't think Canada, even if fully invested in their military on the level of fascism, could hold off modern day America.
Just give it a gold old fight like Belgium, and then dedicate yourself to decades of insurrection and guerrilla maneuvers to bleed us die. Oorah!