to end this lies and disscussion for ever

[Cameroi]

the human race is exterminating itself, and using history, along with ideology, and economics, as among its excuses for doing so.

Actually, we're growing. There's more of us now then ever, and chances are, our numbers will continue to increase until it stabilizes. Technology is far more effective a tool than evolution, quicker and more efficient. We're not going extinct anytime soon.

the growth of our numbers is one of, if not the, major DE-stabilizing factors!

(and a direct threat to the very conditions that make our continued existence possible)

[Tagmatium]

go look at yourself in mirror or check which country your in

Racism, for all to see.

You are either the best kind of troll, or the worst kind of idiot.

[Jedi 999]

well no you cant they came here with their stupid racist ideas

No, they came there with their economic ideas. Racism wasn't their main goal. Furthermore, you're being racist against them, which is being just as bad as them. You're an Indian 'Britisher', assuming that you are, indeed, Indian.

what economic ideas systmatic exploitation ?

[The Parkus Empire]

well atlee otherwise no i cant think of any

And how many good Moguls can you think of?

"Each winter Mahmud [of Ghazni] descended into India, filled his treasure chest with spoils, and amused his men with full freedom to pillage and kill; each spring he returned to his capital richer than before. At Mathura (on the Jumna) he took from the temple its statues of gold encrusted with precious stones, and emptied its coffers of a vast quantity of gold, silver and jewelry; he expressed his admiration for the architecture of the great shrine, judged that its duplication would cost one hundred million dinars and the labor of two hundred years, and ordered it to be soaked with naphtha and burnt to the ground. Six years later he sacked another opulent city of northern India, Somnath, killed all its fifty thousand inhabitants, and dragged its wealth to Ghazni. In the end he became, perhaps, the richest king that history has ever known. Sometimes he spared the population or the ravaged cities, and took them home to be sold as slaves; but so great was the number of such captives that after some years no one could be found to offer more than a few shillings for a slave. Before every important engagement Mahmud knelt in prayer, and asked the blessing of God upon his arms. He reigned for a third of a century; and when he died, full of years and honors, Moslem historians ranked him as the greatest monarch of his time, and one of the greatest sovereigns of any age."

-The Durants' The Story of Civilization, Volume One, Our Oriental Heritage, page 460.

That's typically how the occupation worked for hundreds of years; if you read on, you learn how feasts were held when enough Hindus were butchered in a day, and children (like Akbar, actually) were brought up beheading captured women and children for pleasure.

[Jedi 999]

go look at yourself in mirror or check which country your in

Racism, for all to see.

You are either the best kind of troll, or the worst kind of idiot.

thank you britisher

[Jedi 999]

well atlee otherwise no i cant think of any

And how many good Moguls can you think of?

"Each winter Mahmud [of Ghazni] descended into India, filled his treasure chest with spoils, and amused his men with full freedom to pillage and kill; each spring he returned to his capital richer than before. At Mathura (on the Jumna) he took from the temple its statues of gold encrusted with precious stones, and emptied its coffers of a vast quantity of gold, silver and jewelry; he expressed his admiration for the architecture of the great shrine, judged that its duplication would cost one hundred million dinars and the labor of two hundred years, and ordered it to be soaked with naphtha and burnt to the ground. Six years later he sacked another opulent city of northern India, Somnath, killed all its fifty thousand inhabitants, and dragged its wealth to Ghazni. In the end he became, perhaps, the richest king that history has ever known. Sometimes he spared the population or the ravaged cities, and took them home to be sold as slaves; but so great was the number of such captives that after some years no one could be found to offer more than a few shillings for a slave. Before every important engagement Mahmud knelt in prayer, and asked the blessing of God upon his arms. He reigned for a third of a century; and when he died, full of years and honors, Moslem historians ranked him as the greatest monarch of his time, and one of the greatest sovereigns of any age."

The Durants' The Story of Civilization, Volume One, Our Oriental Heritage, page 460.

That's typically how the occupation worked for hundreds of years; if you read on, you learn how feasts were held when enough Hindus were butchered in a day, and children (like Akbar, actually) were brought up beheading captured women and children for pleasure.

ghazni is not a moghul the first moughul was babar

[Conserative Morality]

the growth of our numbers is one of, if not the, major DE-stabilizing factors!

(and a direct threat to the very conditions that make our continued existence possible)

Source. Growth rates in First World countries are slowing, the planet is stabilizing.

[Tagmatium]

go look at yourself in mirror or check which country your in

Racism, for all to see.

You are either the best kind of troll, or the worst kind of idiot.

thank you britisher

My pleasure.

Anything I else I can do for you whilst I'm here?

[Conserative Morality]

what economic ideas systmatic exploitation ?

No, the economic idea was unrestricted trade through control.

[Birnadia]

go look at yourself in mirror or check which country your in

Racism, for all to see.

You are either the best kind of troll, or the worst kind of idiot.

thank you britisher

So you're proud to be a troll/idiot?

[Avenio]

tribal states are you crazy or something there were empires not tribes

Tribal in the sense that they are made up of regional ethnic groups. Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and similar Middle Eastern states can be considered tribal, as the fabric of the nation is made up of small regional ethnic groups, which disagree with federal governance for historical, economic or nationalistic reasons.

[Jedi 999]

go look at yourself in mirror or check which country your in

Racism, for all to see.

You are either the best kind of troll, or the worst kind of idiot.

thank you britisher

So you're proud to be a troll/idiot?

well so you britishers are proud colonizers tyrants

[Jedi 999]

tribal states are you crazy or something there were empires not tribes

Tribal in the sense that they are made up of regional ethnic groups. Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and similar Middle Eastern states can be considered tribal, as the fabric of the nation is made up of small regional ethnic groups, which disagree with federal governance for historical, economic or nationalistic reasons.

tribes are different

[SD_Film Artists]

you cant be racist towards colonizers

What does that even mean?

You can't be racist towards postmen either, since they're not a race.

[Jedi 999]

what economic ideas systmatic exploitation ?

No, the economic idea was unrestricted trade through control.

unrestricted trade i spat juice on my monitor

[Tagmatium]

well so you britishers are proud colonizers tyrants

As many "Britishers" here have said, they are not proud of the empire.

But why do I bother?

You think that's what we are, so it is.

[Dododecapod]

what economic ideas systmatic exploitation ?

No, the economic idea was unrestricted trade through control.

unrestricted trade i spat juice on my monitor

I'm afraid he does have a point. The British Empire did NOT believe in free trade.

[Birnadia]

go look at yourself in mirror or check which country your in

Racism, for all to see.

You are either the best kind of troll, or the worst kind of idiot.

thank you britisher

So you're proud to be a troll/idiot?

well so you britishers are proud colonizers tyrants

I can't be a proud "colonizer tyrant" when I was born after the fall of the British Empire.

[Jedi 999]

you cant be racist towards colonizers

What does that even mean?

You can't be racist towards postmen either, since they're not a race.

it means the colonizer (in this case british) thinks the colonized are there for the welfare of mother country and therefore inferior human beings

[The Parkus Empire]

Quietly, of course. Gotta remain popular with the people, even if I'm working against them.

Then the only solution is to sack the rich, and redistribute a fraction of (you keep most of it) their wealth to show your noble, and progressive, intentions.

[Conserative Morality]

I'm afraid he does have a point. The British Empire did NOT believe in free trade.

Unrestricted trade between Britain and India, I meant. Having a thousand warring little states isn't good for getting material back to England.

[Tagmatium]

it means the colonizer (in this case british) thinks the colonized are there for the welfare of mother country and therefore inferior human beings

well so you britishers are proud colonizers tyrants

As many "Britishers" here have said, they are not proud of the empire.

But why do I bother?

You think that's what we are, so it is.

[Conserative Morality]

unrestricted trade i spat juice on my monitor

That's wasteful, of both juice and monitors.

[The Parkus Empire]

it means the colonizer (in this case british) thinks the colonized are there for the welfare of mother country and therefore inferior human beings

No race is inferior; some governments are.

[Conserative Morality]

Then the only solution is to sack the rich, and redistribute a fraction of (you keep most of it) their wealth to show your noble, and progressive, intentions.

I'll have to get someone to pretend to crown me, but I'll refuse them. For show, of course, I'll still have all the power of a king.