The War On Whites

[Sovaal]

That doesn't answer my question.

What he means is that if people are going to migrate over to a country, they should assimilate into the nation as it's defined.

Which is something I also agree with.

I as well.

[Seradahn]

So why would Hitler smack me?

Because I think you deserved to get smacked because of your dumb comment and I think that he would like to smack you too.

You still haven't answered me. What comment?

[Nouveau Yathrib]

I do love this whole "Whites did this and that" narrative. It isn't as if the Africans and Arabs were engaged in the slave trade long before Europeans joined the game.

Why is it that predominantly ethnic white nations have to take in peoples of colour from vastly different, unassimilable cultures? Am I to believe this is in the name of "diversity", as if that is somehow better than a united populace?

Are Europeans not able to criticise the degradation of their traditions and culture without the fear of being labelled a "racist/nazi/islamophobe/facist, when really they're just trying to preserve their national identity?

Why don't they go to other wealthy Arab or Asian nations? Or is it the fact that they're not allowed in with a free pass that deters these "migrants/refugees/asylum seekers"?

It's America disease.

America is a land that secretly thinks itself a white nation but aspires to be a multicultural society.
So when Americanization happens, naturally they focus on other white nations acting like them rather than everyone doing so.

Like a closeted racist aunt who insists she thinks everyone should eat foods from all over, but only ever forces her white neighbors to endure her attempts at curry and ignores the black ones.

Am American, can confirm. Multiculturalism is really meant for New World countries like the Us, Canada, and Australia and Latin American ones like Guyana, Suriname, and Brazil.

[Salus Maior]

You asked what the definition of a nation is.

That may be the definition. What is wrong though with someone from say Eritrea, Venezuela, Iran or Vietnam comes to your nation for a better life? They comes legally get a work visa, find a job and apartment and several years later becomes a citizen.

He's not arguing against immigration.

[United Muscovite Nations]

You asked what the definition of a nation is.

That may be the definition. What is wrong though with someone from say Eritrea, Venezuela, Iran or Vietnam comes to your nation for a better life? They comes legally get a work visa, find a job and apartment and several years later becomes a citizen.

It's fine if they assimilate, and that won't happen if we let in so many that they become a majority in their communities.

[Izirag]

We've always had a war against us, from the Mongolians slaughtering us like cattle, being enslaved by millions in the Muslim slave trade, more slaughter by the Turks, the Jews bringing Christianity to Europe and destroying our culture...etc. Our worst enemy is always ourselves, though. Too many of our people are unfamiliar with alien concepts like pride and loyalty and take each other for granted. If we were actually unified and gave damn about each other we wouldn't always be in constant turmoil. I can only dream of the day when our people realize their uniqueness and understand we are a family with unlimited potential.

LOL. Romans were adopting and propagating non-European deities long before Christianity came on the scene. A good number of cults inspired by Egyptian and other pantheons were quite popular throughout the empire.

So pagans didn't really give a shit about staying "pure European" either.

Yes, I know. Also, it's been recently confirmed that the ruling class of Egypt was made up of European and Levant DNA, so I wouldn't go as far to say Egyptian religion is distinctively non-European. The fate of the Romans certainly illustrate the history long flawed-thought of Europe.

[Imperializt Russia]

I don't think that's what he was saying.

No, but it means that the argument is irrelevant.

Even if we concede on the facts, the conclusion drawn is still absurd. What about aliens?
Should we assume a posture of treating them like outsiders, or just other things that have a consciousness?

It's arguing over the irrelevant to support the absurd, despite the irrelevant being already a settled matter. It's an utter waste of time.
Genetics don't matter in this debate.

You have definitely misunderstood my point.

The tracing of humanity back to Africa in the first place was by documenting the travel of markers on genes. A population of any creature is more or less defined by the exchanging of DNA material of course, and populations migrate to new areas, adapt, and descendants migrate further.

These markers can be traced backwards to the supposed origin of humanity, which is placed in Africa. This is presently the most convincing theory for the origin point of humans.
It's literally just the method of tracing and dating migration patterns.

[The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates]

I didn't mention a plight or how this makes me angry or sad or whatever. I just mentioned something that is occurring in this present age.

It's really not.

It kinda is.
You have college students that block campuses from white people and protest for a day without white people (whatever that may look like). If you look inside any sort of BLM or something alike you may find that the statement is also very heavy there too. Another example would be of the kid that got kidnapped on Facebook live and was later tortured by three people saying "fuck white people".

Obviously something is going on, I don't think you can deny that since it's growing to a sizable campus level.

[San Lumen]

That may be the definition. What is wrong though with someone from say Eritrea, Venezuela, Iran or Vietnam comes to your nation for a better life? They comes legally get a work visa, find a job and apartment and several years later becomes a citizen.

It's fine if they assimilate, and that won't happen if we let in so many that they become a majority in their communities.

I dont disagree they shouldnt assimilate. why wouldnt it happen if they become a majority?

[Athrax]

That may be the definition. What is wrong though with someone from say Eritrea, Venezuela, Iran or Vietnam comes to your nation for a better life? They comes legally get a work visa, find a job and apartment and several years later becomes a citizen.

It's fine if they assimilate, and that won't happen if we let in so many that they become a majority in their communities.

Again, majority minority communities are going to happen at first. Those social barriers tend to get eroded over time and the overall majority reasserts itself in the long run. Don't mistake short term fluctuation for long term cultural shifts

[Genivaria]

It's really not.

It kinda is.
You have college students that block campuses from white people and protest for a day without white people (whatever that may look like). If you look inside any sort of BLM or something alike you may find that the statement is also very heavy there too. Another example would be of the kid that got kidnapped on Facebook live and was later tortured by three people saying "fuck white people".

Obviously something is going on, I don't think you can deny that since it's growing to a sizable campus level.

Campus sized? Wow that's really not impressive.

[Seradahn]

That doesn't answer my question.

What he means is that if people are going to migrate over to a country, they should assimilate into the nation as it's defined instead of segregating themselves off as a minority.

Which is something I also agree with.

It's kinda like when Mexicans flood into America and refuse to learn English. So now they expect us to learn Spanish. Hell, one dumbass German said that they should learn Arabic.

[The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates]

Because I think you deserved to get smacked because of your dumb comment and I think that he would like to smack you too.

You still haven't answered me. What comment?

Did answer you and that would be your opening post, it seems so off the wall and unfounded that even someone on the right like me can't help to call you a nut job, perhaps if you introduced your post in a respectable manner with links and facts (per the norm) maybe I would revise my statement.

[San Lumen]

It's fine if they assimilate, and that won't happen if we let in so many that they become a majority in their communities.

Again, majority minority communities are going to happen at first. Those social barriers tend to get eroded over time and the overall majority reasserts itself in the long run. Don't mistake short term fluctuation for long term cultural shifts

What do you mean by overall majority reasserting itself? Europe and several countries in the Americas are changing demographically and that cannot be stopped.

[The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates]

It kinda is.
You have college students that block campuses from white people and protest for a day without white people (whatever that may look like). If you look inside any sort of BLM or something alike you may find that the statement is also very heavy there too. Another example would be of the kid that got kidnapped on Facebook live and was later tortured by three people saying "fuck white people".

Obviously something is going on, I don't think you can deny that since it's growing to a sizable campus level.

Campus sized? Wow that's really not impressive.

News worthy and still there.

[Sanctissima]

It's fine if they assimilate, and that won't happen if we let in so many that they become a majority in their communities.

I dont disagree they shouldnt assimilate. why wouldnt it happen if they become a majority?

Because in every single historical instance wherein a large influx of newcomers supplants the previous population, the old culture is always dominated by the new one.

[Seradahn]

It kinda is.
You have college students that block campuses from white people and protest for a day without white people (whatever that may look like). If you look inside any sort of BLM or something alike you may find that the statement is also very heavy there too. Another example would be of the kid that got kidnapped on Facebook live and was later tortured by three people saying "fuck white people".

Obviously something is going on, I don't think you can deny that since it's growing to a sizable campus level.

Campus sized? Wow that's really not impressive.

It's not just campuses. It's especially in the media. Ever heard of Symone Sanders? I also wanna say it's breached the entertainment industry.

[San Lumen]

What he means is that if people are going to migrate over to a country, they should assimilate into the nation as it's defined instead of segregating themselves off as a minority.

Which is something I also agree with.

It's kinda like when Mexicans flood into America and refuse to learn English. So now they expect us to learn Spanish. Hell, one dumbass German said that they should learn Arabic.

That isn't true. Your whole argument screams of white supremacy.

[Ostroeuropa]

No, but it means that the argument is irrelevant.

Even if we concede on the facts, the conclusion drawn is still absurd. What about aliens?
Should we assume a posture of treating them like outsiders, or just other things that have a consciousness?

It's arguing over the irrelevant to support the absurd, despite the irrelevant being already a settled matter. It's an utter waste of time.
Genetics don't matter in this debate.

You have definitely misunderstood my point.

The tracing of humanity back to Africa in the first place was by documenting the travel of markers on genes. A population of any creature is more or less defined by the exchanging of DNA material of course, and populations migrate to new areas, adapt, and descendants migrate further.

These markers can be traced backwards to the supposed origin of humanity, which is placed in Africa. This is presently the most convincing theory for the origin point of humans.
It's literally just the method of tracing and dating migration patterns.

Ya, that's the facts of the matter, I agree.
Sometimes racists dispute those facts and argue no, we're distinct.

Okay, so even if we concede that to them... then what?
Whence the racism? What justification for it is there?

It's like someone saying water freezes at 50 degrees so we've got to bomb the iranians, and you're there arguing with them (accurately) over chemistry.

No, wait, what?
I don't understaaaand. It's irrelevant, surely?

Ask them why it matters even if they were right (Which they aren't, and you are.).
The problem here isn't that they don't understand the facts, because even if they did, there's a disconnect somewhere here.

[Genivaria]

Campus sized? Wow that's really not impressive.

It's not just campuses. It's especially in the media. Ever heard of Symone Sanders? I also wanna say it's breached the entertainment industry.

You can certainly say that if you want to go full Alex Jones.

[Flurosia]

Slight differences in appearance to not equal 'drastic differences'.
That's a ridiculous assertion.

There's differences in everything from skin tone, jaw structure, average height and the presence or lack of epicanthic folds.

They aren't just slight differences.

Genetic differences aren't higher among Europeans. In fact, Africa is more ethnically and culturally diverse than most anywhere else.

If you want to say that you think Europeans *look* more diverse than other races that's one thing, but don't be dishonest with biology.

[Imperializt Russia]

You have definitely misunderstood my point.

The tracing of humanity back to Africa in the first place was by documenting the travel of markers on genes. A population of any creature is more or less defined by the exchanging of DNA material of course, and populations migrate to new areas, adapt, and descendants migrate further.

These markers can be traced backwards to the supposed origin of humanity, which is placed in Africa. This is presently the most convincing theory for the origin point of humans.
It's literally just the method of tracing and dating migration patterns.

Ya, that's the facts of the matter, I agree.
Sometimes racists dispute those facts and argue no, we're distinct.

Okay, so even if we concede that to them... then what?
Whence the racism? What justification for it is there?

It's like someone saying water freezes at 50 degrees so we've got to bomb the iranians, and you're there arguing with them (accurately) over chemistry.

No, wait, what?
I don't understaaaand. It's irrelevant, surely?

I don't understand what you're getting at either.

[Unitum Pacem]

I've thought about this topic many times, so here's my say. As a white person, I feel that there is not a "war" on whites. Yes, sometimes I will get criticized for something we didn't do, just because I am white. However, that does not mean there is a war against me. One day, my friends and I were having a discussion about Hitler, and the awful acts he committed. I said something along the lines of "Well, he was still a human being." After one of my friends commented on the fact that they thought he was a so awful, he was a monster and not a human. Immediately, several of my friends gasped, and called me a Nazi supporter. And all because I said that Hitler was still a human! When I asked why, they listed 2 reasons. 1: I said Hitler was a person and that meant I supported him. 2: Because I am white, and only white people support Hitler.

I don't think that Hitler was a good person, but I do believe sometimes people have traumatic events in their lives that turn them the wrong way. And I don't think there is a war on white people but I do think there are some people out there who are not very nice and don't have very compassionate views about other people.

I know that history helps you learn from your mistakes, but I feel like we should keep history for that one purpose: school, and learning. However, I know that there will always be people around you that don't have the same opinions as you. For instance, my father. He is extremely rude towards people of different color, always stereotyping them before he even meets them. I don't think people should judge you for who you grew up with and what your race has done in the past. I did not take over land, murder people, or anything else that the people in the past have done. I have grown to be a person that does not stereotype people, and I try to keep an open mind to people that I don't like. I did not let my father define my views; I am my own person, and I will be nice to any race. I hope that one day the world will see that it takes to much energy to be angry, and that it is better to accept that other races are humans too, and you treat them like humans.

[Seradahn]

It's kinda like when Mexicans flood into America and refuse to learn English. So now they expect us to learn Spanish. Hell, one dumbass German said that they should learn Arabic.

That isn't true. Your whole argument screams of white supremacy.

What exactly screams white supremacy to you when I was just talking about how I oppose multilingualism?

[Escocaria]

It's kinda like when Mexicans flood into America and refuse to learn English. So now they expect us to learn Spanish. Hell, one dumbass German said that they should learn Arabic.

That isn't true. Your whole argument screams of white supremacy.

How? All he's saying is that when immigrants refuse to learn the native language they shouldn't expect to be accepted since they're not going to make themselves compatible with the country they're moving to.

When you move to a country, you change yourself to fit the country, you don't make the nation change to fit you.