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by Sovaal » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:44 am
by Seradahn » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:44 am
by Nouveau Yathrib » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:44 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Union of Rossiya wrote:I do love this whole "Whites did this and that" narrative. It isn't as if the Africans and Arabs were engaged in the slave trade long before Europeans joined the game.
Why is it that predominantly ethnic white nations have to take in peoples of colour from vastly different, unassimilable cultures? Am I to believe this is in the name of "diversity", as if that is somehow better than a united populace?
Are Europeans not able to criticise the degradation of their traditions and culture without the fear of being labelled a "racist/nazi/islamophobe/facist, when really they're just trying to preserve their national identity?
Why don't they go to other wealthy Arab or Asian nations? Or is it the fact that they're not allowed in with a free pass that deters these "migrants/refugees/asylum seekers"?
It's America disease.
America is a land that secretly thinks itself a white nation but aspires to be a multicultural society.
So when Americanization happens, naturally they focus on other white nations acting like them rather than everyone doing so.
Like a closeted racist aunt who insists she thinks everyone should eat foods from all over, but only ever forces her white neighbors to endure her attempts at curry and ignores the black ones.
by Salus Maior » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:44 am
San Lumen wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:You asked what the definition of a nation is.
That may be the definition. What is wrong though with someone from say Eritrea, Venezuela, Iran or Vietnam comes to your nation for a better life? They comes legally get a work visa, find a job and apartment and several years later becomes a citizen.
by United Muscovite Nations » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:45 am
San Lumen wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:You asked what the definition of a nation is.
That may be the definition. What is wrong though with someone from say Eritrea, Venezuela, Iran or Vietnam comes to your nation for a better life? They comes legally get a work visa, find a job and apartment and several years later becomes a citizen.
by Izirag » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:45 am
Salus Maior wrote:Izirag wrote:We've always had a war against us, from the Mongolians slaughtering us like cattle, being enslaved by millions in the Muslim slave trade, more slaughter by the Turks, the Jews bringing Christianity to Europe and destroying our culture...etc. Our worst enemy is always ourselves, though. Too many of our people are unfamiliar with alien concepts like pride and loyalty and take each other for granted. If we were actually unified and gave damn about each other we wouldn't always be in constant turmoil. I can only dream of the day when our people realize their uniqueness and understand we are a family with unlimited potential.
LOL. Romans were adopting and propagating non-European deities long before Christianity came on the scene. A good number of cults inspired by Egyptian and other pantheons were quite popular throughout the empire.
So pagans didn't really give a shit about staying "pure European" either.
by Imperializt Russia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:45 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Sovaal wrote:I don't think that's what he was saying.
No, but it means that the argument is irrelevant.
Even if we concede on the facts, the conclusion drawn is still absurd. What about aliens?
Should we assume a posture of treating them like outsiders, or just other things that have a consciousness?
It's arguing over the irrelevant to support the absurd, despite the irrelevant being already a settled matter. It's an utter waste of time.
Genetics don't matter in this debate.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:45 am
by San Lumen » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:46 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:San Lumen wrote:That may be the definition. What is wrong though with someone from say Eritrea, Venezuela, Iran or Vietnam comes to your nation for a better life? They comes legally get a work visa, find a job and apartment and several years later becomes a citizen.
It's fine if they assimilate, and that won't happen if we let in so many that they become a majority in their communities.
by Athrax » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:46 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:San Lumen wrote:That may be the definition. What is wrong though with someone from say Eritrea, Venezuela, Iran or Vietnam comes to your nation for a better life? They comes legally get a work visa, find a job and apartment and several years later becomes a citizen.
It's fine if they assimilate, and that won't happen if we let in so many that they become a majority in their communities.
by Genivaria » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:46 am
The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:Genivaria wrote:It's really not.
It kinda is.
You have college students that block campuses from white people and protest for a day without white people (whatever that may look like). If you look inside any sort of BLM or something alike you may find that the statement is also very heavy there too. Another example would be of the kid that got kidnapped on Facebook live and was later tortured by three people saying "fuck white people".
Obviously something is going on, I don't think you can deny that since it's growing to a sizable campus level.
by Seradahn » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:47 am
by The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:48 am
by San Lumen » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:48 am
Athrax wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:It's fine if they assimilate, and that won't happen if we let in so many that they become a majority in their communities.
Again, majority minority communities are going to happen at first. Those social barriers tend to get eroded over time and the overall majority reasserts itself in the long run. Don't mistake short term fluctuation for long term cultural shifts
by The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:48 am
Genivaria wrote:The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:It kinda is.
You have college students that block campuses from white people and protest for a day without white people (whatever that may look like). If you look inside any sort of BLM or something alike you may find that the statement is also very heavy there too. Another example would be of the kid that got kidnapped on Facebook live and was later tortured by three people saying "fuck white people".
Obviously something is going on, I don't think you can deny that since it's growing to a sizable campus level.
Campus sized? Wow that's really not impressive.
by Sanctissima » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:49 am
by Seradahn » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:49 am
Genivaria wrote:The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:It kinda is.
You have college students that block campuses from white people and protest for a day without white people (whatever that may look like). If you look inside any sort of BLM or something alike you may find that the statement is also very heavy there too. Another example would be of the kid that got kidnapped on Facebook live and was later tortured by three people saying "fuck white people".
Obviously something is going on, I don't think you can deny that since it's growing to a sizable campus level.
Campus sized? Wow that's really not impressive.
by San Lumen » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:50 am
Seradahn wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
What he means is that if people are going to migrate over to a country, they should assimilate into the nation as it's defined instead of segregating themselves off as a minority.
Which is something I also agree with.
It's kinda like when Mexicans flood into America and refuse to learn English. So now they expect us to learn Spanish. Hell, one dumbass German said that they should learn Arabic.
by Ostroeuropa » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:50 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
No, but it means that the argument is irrelevant.
Even if we concede on the facts, the conclusion drawn is still absurd. What about aliens?
Should we assume a posture of treating them like outsiders, or just other things that have a consciousness?
It's arguing over the irrelevant to support the absurd, despite the irrelevant being already a settled matter. It's an utter waste of time.
Genetics don't matter in this debate.
You have definitely misunderstood my point.
The tracing of humanity back to Africa in the first place was by documenting the travel of markers on genes. A population of any creature is more or less defined by the exchanging of DNA material of course, and populations migrate to new areas, adapt, and descendants migrate further.
These markers can be traced backwards to the supposed origin of humanity, which is placed in Africa. This is presently the most convincing theory for the origin point of humans.
It's literally just the method of tracing and dating migration patterns.
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by Imperializt Russia » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:52 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Imperializt Russia wrote:You have definitely misunderstood my point.
The tracing of humanity back to Africa in the first place was by documenting the travel of markers on genes. A population of any creature is more or less defined by the exchanging of DNA material of course, and populations migrate to new areas, adapt, and descendants migrate further.
These markers can be traced backwards to the supposed origin of humanity, which is placed in Africa. This is presently the most convincing theory for the origin point of humans.
It's literally just the method of tracing and dating migration patterns.
Ya, that's the facts of the matter, I agree.
Sometimes racists dispute those facts and argue no, we're distinct.
Okay, so even if we concede that to them... then what?
Whence the racism? What justification for it is there?
It's like someone saying water freezes at 50 degrees so we've got to bomb the iranians, and you're there arguing with them (accurately) over chemistry.
No, wait, what?
I don't understaaaand. It's irrelevant, surely?
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
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