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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:11 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Kramania wrote:Judging by the hysterical shrieking over Trump you'd think so.

So that's a no. I guess their political violence is working.


I think there's a few more measures to prevent Fascist takeover than a bunch of angry college vandals.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:11 pm

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Montesardo-East Adanzi wrote:Irrelevant. And they were classified as terrorists by the US government. Not that I agree with it, but they were classified as such. And no, I really already know what Antifa stands for. Clearly for promoting social chaos and disharmony over a hissy fit about the loss of an election.

Anti-fascists are not in favor of the Democratic party.


I imagine more than a few of them are.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:12 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:This may have been asked already and if it has, sorry but, what are NJ's parameters for classifying the Antifa as terrorists?


Probably an implementation of that old Bushism. They won't support the government, so they must be terrorists.
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Postby Montesardo-East Adanzi » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:13 pm

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Montesardo-East Adanzi wrote:Clearly for promoting social chaos and disharmony over a hissy fit about the loss of an election.


[citation needed]

Because it totally can't be about what the government has done since the election. Has to just be a bunch of childish sore losers because that's easier to attack.

Hey, not my problem that Antifa are literally what you said. If they want good publicity, they should behave like adults!
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Montesardo-East Adanzi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
[citation needed]

Because it totally can't be about what the government has done since the election. Has to just be a bunch of childish sore losers because that's easier to attack.

Hey, not my problem that Antifa are literally what you said. If they want good publicity, they should behave like adults!


[citation needed]
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:15 pm

Montesardo-East Adanzi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
[citation needed]

Because it totally can't be about what the government has done since the election. Has to just be a bunch of childish sore losers because that's easier to attack.

Hey, not my problem that Antifa are literally what you said. If they want good publicity, they should behave like adults!

Explain Trump's Twitter account.
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Postby Mongeley » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:15 pm

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Mongeley wrote:Anti-fascists are not in favor of the Democratic party.


I imagine more than a few of them are.

Either side of American government is unpopular in antifascist circles.
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Postby Montesardo-East Adanzi » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:17 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Montesardo-East Adanzi wrote:Hey, not my problem that Antifa are literally what you said. If they want good publicity, they should behave like adults!


[citation needed]


[reality check needed]

Imperializt Russia wrote:Explain Trump's Twitter account.


I don't care for the US president's Twitter account. You gringos deal with your own president, I'll deal with mine.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:18 pm

Montesardo-East Adanzi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
[citation needed]


[reality check needed]

Imperializt Russia wrote:Explain Trump's Twitter account.


I don't care for the US president's Twitter account. You gringos deal with your own president, I'll deal with mine.


So you're not going to provide evidence in support of your claims?
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Postby Neo Balka » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:20 pm

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Mongeley wrote:Anti-fascists are not in favor of the Democratic party.


I imagine more than a few of them are.


try half of them and you might be on the money.

Reason why so many of them have turned into black skinny jean wearing fucktards is the fact that Trump is president.
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So you're not going to provide evidence in support of your claims?

Likewise, are you?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:21 pm

Montesardo-East Adanzi wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So you're not going to provide evidence in support of your claims?

Likewise, are you?


What claims have I actually made?
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Postby Mongeley » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:24 pm

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I imagine more than a few of them are.


try half of them and you might be on the money.

Reason why so many of them have turned into black skinny jean wearing fucktards is the fact that Trump is president.

Nearly all Alt-Right crusaders are playing dress up because they're misanthropic internet trolls looking for an in-group.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Jul 04, 2017 4:39 pm

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Montesardo-East Adanzi wrote:Hey, not my problem that Antifa are literally what you said. If they want good publicity, they should behave like adults!

Explain Trump's Twitter account.



good publicity
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:20 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Explain Trump's Twitter account.



good publicity

So then why does Antifa need good publicity?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:21 pm

Good publicity might help you avoid being listed as a terror group.
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Good publicity might help you avoid being listed as a terror group.


It also prevents the bad guys from looking like good guys. Its almost like that is a key component in stopping fascism.

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Postby War Gears » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:23 pm

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Montesardo-East Adanzi wrote:Likewise, are you?


What claims have I actually made?


I agree, you've not really made any claims. All you've done is act snarky and contribute nothing to the debate.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:24 pm

War Gears wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
What claims have I actually made?


I agree, you've not really made any claims. All you've done is act snarky and contribute nothing to the debate.

Usually what Vass does, tbh.

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I agree, you've not really made any claims. All you've done is act snarky and contribute nothing to the debate.

Usually what Vass does, tbh.

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If you new you were running the risk of getting mod-hammered, why post that at all?
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Grand Britannia wrote:Usually what Vass does, tbh.

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If you new you were running the risk of getting mod-hammered, why post that at all?


I don't think I should get reported for pointing out a fact, but I've seen people get reported for even pettier things.
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Postby Donut section » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:33 pm

So I'm not real sure how American law would work, but now antifa are recognised for the terrorists that they are, wouldn't the FBI at least be required to look into its funding?

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Donut section wrote:So I'm not real sure how American law would work, but now antifa are recognised for the terrorists that they are, wouldn't the FBI at least be required to look into its funding?

Declaring a movement a terrorist organization. Sensible as declaring Anonymous a terrorist organization. The closest thing to organization is local cells at best.
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Postby Sovaal » Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:51 pm

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Donut section wrote:So I'm not real sure how American law would work, but now antifa are recognised for the terrorists that they are, wouldn't the FBI at least be required to look into its funding?

Declaring a movement a terrorist organization. Sensible as declaring Anonymous a terrorist organization. The closest thing to organization is local cells at best.

Well that's about the organization level of most terrorists.

Not saying this is right tho.
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Gauthier wrote:Declaring a movement a terrorist organization. Sensible as declaring Anonymous a terrorist organization. The closest thing to organization is local cells at best.

Well that's about the organization level of most terrorists.

Not saying this is right tho.

There is no Antifa Central Command so this is going to be New Jersey wasting money tracking down every spontaneous gathering.
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