Antifa listed as a terrorist organisation in New Jersey

[The East Marches II]

>Sociology
>Real science

In so far as Austrian Economics is :^)

Are you gonna go for the "only chemistry, physics, and biology are real sciences" schtick?

Because, you know, that's the only "real" science if we want to break it down by what is the real science, here.

The rest of us are mere plebs when it comes to them, and, sadly, they have a leg over us because they're more demanded in the market.

No, I got my degree in Economics. I was using it as an example of retarded offshoots of respectable brothers.

[The East Marches II]

>Sociology
>Real science

In so far as Austrian Economics is :^)

military science is a """""science"""""" as well
But if you're gonna be a general, you better read clausewitz.

I can't believe thats a god damn minor. Its impressive though tbh.

[Liriena]

Are you gonna go for the "only chemistry, physics, and biology are real sciences" schtick?

Because, you know, that's the only "real" science if we want to break it down by what is the real science, here.

The rest of us are mere plebs when it comes to them, and, sadly, they have a leg over us because they're more demanded in the market.

No, I got my degree in Economics. I was using it as an example of retarded offshoots of respectable brothers.

Well, Austrian Economics are a remarkably dumb offshoot of Economics, yeah. ;3

[Kubra]

military science is a """""science"""""" as well
But if you're gonna be a general, you better read clausewitz.

I can't believe thats a god damn minor. Its impressive though tbh.

minor? Naw man the uni in the city 4 hours south of here will do you a PhD in military studies. They ain't even a war college, they just offer it anyways.

[Oldenfranck]

Most of Antifa is just a bunch of triggered sjw's acting in a glorified weekender role. Sure, many are idiots, but terrorists, that might be a stretch.

[The East Marches II]

I can't believe thats a god damn minor. Its impressive though tbh.

minor? Naw man the uni in the city 4 hours south of here will do you a PhD in military studies. They ain't even a war college, they just offer it anyways.

You're shitting me. Thats impressive.

[Imperializt Russia]

I can't believe thats a god damn minor. Its impressive though tbh.

minor? Naw man the uni in the city 4 hours south of here will do you a PhD in military studies. They ain't even a war college, they just offer it anyways.

Canadian, yes? A member of this board did a PhD of military studies.

[Liriena]

Most of Antifa is just a bunch of triggered sjw's acting in a glorified weekender role. Sure, many are idiots, but terrorists, that might be a stretch.

Not being awfully original there. Do you even know what "trigger warnings" are?

[Kramania]

"I don't make excuses for the Nazis, I just try to understand their point of view."

Ah, yes, antifascists are functionally equivalent to Nazis.

Yes. They use political violence and intimidation, they want to suppress free speech, etc.

It does give flashbacks to the Brownshirts.

There's a line between trying to understand a point of view and making excuses for their violence. And you've crossed that line with your refusal to even so much as burp out a condemnation of their violence. You are completely morally bankrupt.

Except that the underlined is false, as per many of my previous posts, so your melodramatic accusation that I'm "completely morally bankrupt" falls flat.

Really? Because I've seen you make excuses for them in the past. And don't give me that "trying to understand their point of view" crap.

And yes, I know they aren't Nazis. They just use Nazi-style Brownshirt tactics against their opponents.

If you think beating people and smashing windows are a Brownshirt invention, I need to have a word with your History teachers.

You're right. It's also a tactic used by socialists.

[Oldenfranck]

Most of Antifa is just a bunch of triggered sjw's acting in a glorified weekender role. Sure, many are idiots, but terrorists, that might be a stretch.

Not being awfully original there. Do you even know what "trigger warnings" are?

No matter what I say you will brand me as being wrong and scold me. Plus, you are just detracting from my main point. You know what I said and meant.

[Kubra]

minor? Naw man the uni in the city 4 hours south of here will do you a PhD in military studies. They ain't even a war college, they just offer it anyways.

Canadian, yes? A member of this board did a PhD of military studies.

yeah, U of C. Beautiful school, puts the U of A to shame, I must begrudgingly admit.

[Impaled Nazarene]

Civil disobedience is not terrorism. Meanwhile white supremacists shoot up churches and commit actual terrorism on a regular basis and the media makes excuses for them.

[Impaled Nazarene]

I read all the bullet points against Antifa in the link, and something seemed missing. Oh yeah, they were missing even a single example of even a single death caused by Antifa. That's interesting.

Edit: ah, here we are
http://www.strifeandjustice.com/antifa- ... rmed-kill/
One person ever killed by Antifa, and it's a Klansman. Keep in mind this is a far-right anti-Antifa source, and one death is the best they can come up with.

[Liriena]

Ah, yes, antifascists are functionally equivalent to Nazis.

Yes. They use political violence and intimidation, they want to suppress free speech, etc.

It does give flashbacks to the Brownshirts.

Brownshirts did not invent political violence and intimidation. Your reductio ad Hitlerum is pathetic and grossly ignorant of the history of political violence, which in its modern form predates the Nazis by at least several decades.

Except that the underlined is false, as per many of my previous posts, so your melodramatic accusation that I'm "completely morally bankrupt" falls flat.

Really? Because I've seen you make excuses for them in the past. And don't give me that "trying to understand their point of view" crap.

If that's the meaning you derived from my posts, that's your problem, not mine. If you think I'm being dishonest about my position, you are free to say it to my (virtual) face.

If you think beating people and smashing windows are a Brownshirt invention, I need to have a word with your History teachers.

You're right. It's also a tactic used by socialists.

The more you talk, the more your bias and historical ignorance (or dishonesty) show.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Are you gonna go for the "only chemistry, physics, and biology are real sciences" schtick?

Because, you know, that's the only "real" science if we want to break it down by what is the real science, here.

The rest of us are mere plebs when it comes to them, and, sadly, they have a leg over us because they're more demanded in the market.

I mean, isn't chemistry a profitable science?
It's useful but that hardly means it has supremacy over the others.

Chemistry is profitable. And, well, it kind of has established a cultural supremacy, along with physics, biology, and mathematics, over the others. To the point where there are no good remarks against someone in those fields when we get into discussions of "what is science" and they decide to be assholes about it.

[Brocialist]

Antifa isn't even an organization to begin with. It's a loosely connected group of protests under a common banner. Oh, and smashing windows without killing anyone doesn't count as terrorism.

Most of Antifa is just a bunch of triggered sjw's acting in a glorified weekender role. Sure, many are idiots, but terrorists, that might be a stretch.

Some, maybe. But most of the antifa people I've seen are very accepting of white, straight men.

[Imperializt Russia]

For different ends.

But y'know, facts, nuance.

[Montesardo-East Adanzi]

Civil disobedience is not terrorism. Meanwhile white supremacists shoot up churches and commit actual terrorism on a regular basis and the media makes excuses for them.

That's nonsense. For you to label this as "civil disobedience" is absolutely hilarious. Antifa are much more terrorist than what they claim to fight. They're the equivalent of Mexico's Normalistas protesters, who just seek to create social chaos for the name of "good". Plus, I find it completely idiotic that people in the US really think that anything inherently right wing is "fascist". I highly advise people like you and supporters of Antifa to read up on political theory and actually understand their "enemy" instead of creating chaos inside cities and terrorising the civilians who wish to not partake in this tomfoolery.

[Liriena]

Not being awfully original there. Do you even know what "trigger warnings" are?

No matter what I say you will brand me as being wrong and scold me.

Will I? How can you know for sure?

Plus, you are just detracting from my main point. You know what I said and meant.

I know what you said and meant, and agree with your assessment that calling antifa, which isn't even an actual organization in any sense of the word, a "terrorist organization" is a stretch.

[Imperializt Russia]

I read all the bullet points against Antifa in the link, and something seemed missing. Oh yeah, they were missing even a single example of even a single death caused by Antifa. That's interesting.

Edit: ah, here we are
http://www.strifeandjustice.com/antifa- ... rmed-kill/
One person ever killed by Antifa, and it's a Klansman. Keep in mind this is a far-right anti-Antifa source, and one death is the best they can come up with.

"confirmed kill" fucking lol.

[The East Marches II]

I mean, isn't chemistry a profitable science?
It's useful but that hardly means it has supremacy over the others.

Chemistry is profitable. And, well, it kind of has established a cultural supremacy, along with physics, biology, and mathematics, over the others. To the point where there are no good remarks against someone in those fields when we get into discussions of "what is science" and they decide to be assholes about it.

Not unjustifiably so. Things like Economics, Sociology, those are all things which are subjective and rely a heavy bit on opinion. Its tough to be a fraud with Mathematics or Chemistry, less so with the others.

[Liriena]

Civil disobedience is not terrorism. Meanwhile white supremacists shoot up churches and commit actual terrorism on a regular basis and the media makes excuses for them.

That's nonsense. For you to label this as "civil disobedience" is absolutely hilarious. Antifa are much more terrorist than what they claim to fight. They're the equivalent of Mexico's Normalistas protesters, who just seek to create social chaos for the name of "good". Plus, I find it completely idiotic that people in the US really think that anything inherently right wing is "fascist". I highly advise people like you and supporters of Antifa to read up on political theory and actually understand their "enemy" instead of creating chaos inside cities and terrorising the civilians who wish to not partake in this tomfoolery.

Implying that there aren't actual far right, white supremacist and self-proclaimed fascists roaming about in the United States right now.

Friendly reminder that New Jersey, at the same time it proclaims antifa a "terrorist organization", also sees far right and white supremacist groups as a threat.

[Oldenfranck]

No matter what I say you will brand me as being wrong and scold me.

Will I? How can you know for sure?

Plus, you are just detracting from my main point. You know what I said and meant.

I know what you said and meant, and agree with your assessment that calling antifa, which isn't even an actual organization in any sense of the word, a "terrorist organization" is a stretch.

I don't know for sure, but my gut tells me so, and I usually trust it and go with it.

[Montesardo-East Adanzi]

Implying that there aren't actual far right, white supremacist and self-proclaimed fascists roaming about in the United States right now.

Friendly reminder that New Jersey, at the same time it proclaims antifa a "terrorist organization", also sees far right and white supremacist groups as a threat.

There are, but they're much less public and less chaotic than Antifa is. By definition, both these groups are terrorist groups.

[United Empire of Humanity]

Ah, yes, antifascists are functionally equivalent to Nazis.

Yes. They use political violence and intimidation, they want to suppress free speech, etc.

It does give flashbacks to the Brownshirts.

Except that the underlined is false, as per many of my previous posts, so your melodramatic accusation that I'm "completely morally bankrupt" falls flat.

Really? Because I've seen you make excuses for them in the past. And don't give me that "trying to understand their point of view" crap.

If you think beating people and smashing windows are a Brownshirt invention, I need to have a word with your History teachers.

You're right. It's also a tactic used by socialists.

Every riot commits violence against the immediate environment, are you going to claim rampaging bulls in Navarra will make sharp turns and head to their owners' homes to gore them and wreck the place for having them get murdered by matadors?
Nice to see that millions around the world are as evil as the shitbags who planned to kill hundreds of millions to make an agrarian totalitarian wonderland out of half of Europe. Because antifascists do more and other things than smash windows and get rightwingers mad at them.

I mean, isn't chemistry a profitable science?
It's useful but that hardly means it has supremacy over the others.

Chemistry is profitable. And, well, it kind of has established a cultural supremacy, along with physics, biology, and mathematics, over the others. To the point where there are no good remarks against someone in those fields when we get into discussions of "what is science" and they decide to be assholes about it.

Unfortunate.