Antifa listed as a terrorist organisation in New Jersey

[Liriena]

It took this long?

You speak as if this was somehow overdue?

Seriously, too many people here are acting like vandalism and assault committed by antifa protests somehow earn all antifa the designation as a "terrorist organization", and it just reeks of bias, considering how comparatively insignificant whatever harm antifa protests may have caused is compared to, say, anti-abortion terrorism, white supremacist terrorism, and Islamic terrorism.

I remember that Sargon of Akkad once whined about "the left" losing all sense of perspective. Well, if proclaiming antifa a "terrorist organization" over broken windows and burning trashcans is not a sign of a collective loss of perspective, I don't know what is.

[Liriena]

warfare is already glorified enough in American society.

* Not nearly enough.

How many more Iraqs do you need before you get the memo?

[United Empire of Humanity]

(online sadism intensifies)

[War Gears]

* Not nearly enough.

How many more Iraqs do you need before you get the memo?

Maybe 5 or 6 more. I dunno, could do 7.

[United Empire of Humanity]

* Not nearly enough.

How many more Iraqs do you need before you get the memo?

Well, by the time other warlike civilizations got the memo people were making paintings of their women being dragged off and raped by invaders and their holy cities sacked mercilessly by said invaders.
Or you know, the country just becomes giant Rust Belt-sized thingy and not even Washington can keep its' economy afloat.

[The Confederacy of American-States]

It took this long?

You speak as if this was somehow overdue?

Seriously, too many people here are acting like vandalism and assault committed by antifa protests somehow earn all antifa the designation as a "terrorist organization", and it just reeks of bias, considering how comparatively insignificant whatever harm antifa protests may have caused is compared to, say, anti-abortion terrorism, white supremacist terrorism, and Islamic terrorism.

I remember that Sargon of Akkad once whined about "the left" losing all sense of perspective. Well, if proclaiming antifa a "terrorist organization" over broken windows and burning trashcans is not a sign of a collective loss of perspective, I don't know what is.

See, I am pretty sure most political parties didn't go outside breaking shops and street laps, also they didn't come to pro-trump protests with sticks, masks, sprays, fireworks, wearing all black to beat the living fuck out or the protestors and mace them.
Any party that is ABOVE the law, is not a good party, also it's TERRIBLE PR to break the law, it's also awful PR hitting people with sticks to the point of blood...
It's also a bad idea to hide behind women because in modern day society no one dares hit one, cause the women can mace at the front line when strong men with CROWBARS go for a split second to the front and hit people in the head with it, right?

Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization, it tries to terrorize people, make them fear going to protests, it's stupid not to mark them as terrorists to have a lawful reason to arrest any one who is a part of it.

[Kubra]

It took this long?

You speak as if this was somehow overdue?

Seriously, too many people here are acting like vandalism and assault committed by antifa protests somehow earn all antifa the designation as a "terrorist organization", and it just reeks of bias, considering how comparatively insignificant whatever harm antifa protests may have caused is compared to, say, anti-abortion terrorism, white supremacist terrorism, and Islamic terrorism.

I remember that Sargon of Akkad once whined about "the left" losing all sense of perspective. Well, if proclaiming antifa a "terrorist organization" over broken windows and burning trashcans is not a sign of a collective loss of perspective, I don't know what is.

like compared to left-wing violence of yesteryear todays is just the re-occurrence of history as farce.

At risk of sounding right-wing myself, todays north american right is just ridiculously thin-skinned, and could learn from the more masculine europeans.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You speak as if this was somehow overdue?

Seriously, too many people here are acting like vandalism and assault committed by antifa protests somehow earn all antifa the designation as a "terrorist organization", and it just reeks of bias, considering how comparatively insignificant whatever harm antifa protests may have caused is compared to, say, anti-abortion terrorism, white supremacist terrorism, and Islamic terrorism.

I remember that Sargon of Akkad once whined about "the left" losing all sense of perspective. Well, if proclaiming antifa a "terrorist organization" over broken windows and burning trashcans is not a sign of a collective loss of perspective, I don't know what is.

See, I am pretty sure most political parties didn't go outside breaking shops and street laps, also they didn't come to pro-trump protests with sticks, masks, sprays, fireworks, wearing all black to beat the living fuck out or the protestors and mace them.

Any party that is ABOVE the law, is not a good party, also it's TERRIBLE PR to break the law, it's also awful PR hitting people with sticks to the point of blood...

It's also a bad idea to hide behind women because in modern day society no one dares hit one, cause the women can mace at the front line when strong men with CROWBARS go for a split second to the front and hit people in the head with it, right?

Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization, it tries to terrorize people, make them fear going to protests, it's stupid not to mark them as terrorists to have a lawful reason to arrest any one who is a part of it.

America literally started with a bunch of vandals who destroyed property in the colonies.

I don't know where does this aversion to vandalism comes from, but the American value of tear shit up has been there since the late 1700s.

[Liriena]

You speak as if this was somehow overdue?

Seriously, too many people here are acting like vandalism and assault committed by antifa protests somehow earn all antifa the designation as a "terrorist organization", and it just reeks of bias, considering how comparatively insignificant whatever harm antifa protests may have caused is compared to, say, anti-abortion terrorism, white supremacist terrorism, and Islamic terrorism.

I remember that Sargon of Akkad once whined about "the left" losing all sense of perspective. Well, if proclaiming antifa a "terrorist organization" over broken windows and burning trashcans is not a sign of a collective loss of perspective, I don't know what is.

See, I am pretty sure most political parties didn't go outside breaking shops and street laps, also they didn't come to pro-trump protests with sticks, masks, sprays, fireworks, wearing all black to beat the living fuck out or the protestors and mace them.

Mainstream political parties tend to avoid officially condoning political violence. This isn't news.

Any party that is ABOVE the law, is not a good party

Unless it's an unjust law.

Also, I wasn't talking about parties. I was talking about movements in general. For instance, classical liberalism owes its triumph over absolute monarchism largely to rather gruesome forms of political violence. And a lot of rights we now take for granted were earned largely through violence (universal suffrage, worker's rights, civil rights, etc.).

also it's TERRIBLE PR to break the law, it's also awful PR hitting people with sticks to the point of blood...

The thing is, you assume that the point of that violence is to gain popularity. It isn't. The point of antifa protests isn't PR. It's disrupting far right activities. Antifa don't go around hitting people hoping that it'll make you vote Democrat (that would be silly, given that many of them are anarchists and hate the Democrats as much as they hate Republicans), but hoping that it will make far right groups abandon the area.

It's also a bad idea to hide behind women because in modern day society no one dares hit one, cause the women can mace at the front line when strong men with CROWBARS go for a split second to the front and hit people in the head with it, right?

This is oddly specific...?

Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization, it tries to terrorize people, make them fear going to protests, it's stupid not to mark them as terrorists to have a lawful reason to arrest any one who is a part of it.

If antifa is a "terrorist organization", then so is any loose association of people who aim to disrupt any event at any point through means other than peaceful protesting. Meaning we better get ready to declare the entire internet a terrorist organization.

[Liriena]

You speak as if this was somehow overdue?

Seriously, too many people here are acting like vandalism and assault committed by antifa protests somehow earn all antifa the designation as a "terrorist organization", and it just reeks of bias, considering how comparatively insignificant whatever harm antifa protests may have caused is compared to, say, anti-abortion terrorism, white supremacist terrorism, and Islamic terrorism.

I remember that Sargon of Akkad once whined about "the left" losing all sense of perspective. Well, if proclaiming antifa a "terrorist organization" over broken windows and burning trashcans is not a sign of a collective loss of perspective, I don't know what is.

like compared to left-wing violence of yesteryear todays is just the re-occurrence of history as farce.

At risk of sounding right-wing myself, todays north american right is just ridiculously thin-skinned, and could learn from the more masculine europeans.

At the risk of overgeneralizing, I can't say I entirely disagree with that assertion.

[Keldros]

You speak as if this was somehow overdue?

Seriously, too many people here are acting like vandalism and assault committed by antifa protests somehow earn all antifa the designation as a "terrorist organization", and it just reeks of bias, considering how comparatively insignificant whatever harm antifa protests may have caused is compared to, say, anti-abortion terrorism, white supremacist terrorism, and Islamic terrorism.

I remember that Sargon of Akkad once whined about "the left" losing all sense of perspective. Well, if proclaiming antifa a "terrorist organization" over broken windows and burning trashcans is not a sign of a collective loss of perspective, I don't know what is.

like compared to left-wing violence of yesteryear todays is just the re-occurrence of history as farce.

At risk of sounding right-wing myself, todays north american right is just ridiculously thin-skinned, and could learn from the more masculine europeans.

You call it thin skinned, I call it using the Left's tactics against them. Whatsoever they do unto us, do unto them twice as hard. That's the Chicago way.

[Liriena]

like compared to left-wing violence of yesteryear todays is just the re-occurrence of history as farce.

At risk of sounding right-wing myself, todays north american right is just ridiculously thin-skinned, and could learn from the more masculine europeans.

You call it thin skinned, I call it using the Left's tactics against them. Whatsoever they do unto us, do unto them twice as hard. That's the Chicago way.

It's cute how you try to pull an ITG act immediately after implicitly admitting that you are acting like thin-skinned snowflakes.

But please, do keep gloating over the videos of the violence in Berkeley if that makes you happy. Even though you clearly had nothing to do with the violence and you are essentially indulging yourself in self-praise without any actual personal merit, it's good to have something that makes you feel good about yourself.

Me? I take pride in the good, positive stuff I've actually done. Because I don't have an unhealthy need to constantly one-up my political opponents and revel in their suffering.

[Kubra]

like compared to left-wing violence of yesteryear todays is just the re-occurrence of history as farce.

At risk of sounding right-wing myself, todays north american right is just ridiculously thin-skinned, and could learn from the more masculine europeans.

At the risk of overgeneralizing, I can't say I entirely disagree with that assertion.

and I don't mean to myself overgeneralize. Mea culpa, I don't speak precisely when drunk.

like compared to left-wing violence of yesteryear todays is just the re-occurrence of history as farce.

At risk of sounding right-wing myself, todays north american right is just ridiculously thin-skinned, and could learn from the more masculine europeans.

You call it thin skinned, I call it using the Left's tactics against them. Whatsoever they do unto us, do unto them twice as hard. That's the Chicago way.

>twice as hard
since when

[Liriena]

You call it thin skinned, I call it using the Left's tactics against them. Whatsoever they do unto us, do unto them twice as hard. That's the Chicago way.

>twice as hard
since when

Since their LARPing went full Rome: Total War, I'd say.

[TrustMe]

Good decision from New Jersy

Hopefully the federal government can follow suit

[Catochristoferson]

You're not trying very hard.

I don't need to. Based Stick Man, the Maroon Maniac, Sriracha Lord, Alt Right Spartacus, and Money Vampire whipped them like government mules at the Battle of Berkeley. Who's American gonna side with - MAGA bros having the time of their lives, or skinnyfat kids in crusty black hoodies with a visible miasma wafting about them?

Never bet against the side that's having a blast, and that's the Right in Current Year.

You still have not proven your ridiculous claim that Antifa is "the baby of George Soros".

[Liriena]

Good decision from New Jersy

Hopefully the federal government can follow suit

Richard Spencer openly supports ethnic cleansing, yet he gets to walk freely while liberals and right-wingers clutch their pearls at the sight of him getting punched... but antifa protests smashing a few windows and setting trashcans on fire makes them a "terrorist organization" on par with al-Qaeda?

[Dumb Ideologies]

I'm against these unwashed loutish hooligans, but not against their banning of antifa

[Kubra]

>twice as hard
since when

Since their LARPing went full Rome: Total War, I'd say.

hey now, armour is really pushing LARPing territory, but a riot is one of the only places these days where you'll see antiquity infantry formations applied very successfully, ad hoc catapults and trebuchets included.

[TrustMe]

Good decision from New Jersy

Hopefully the federal government can follow suit

Richard Spencer openly supports ethnic cleansing, yet he gets to walk freely while liberals and right-wingers clutch their pearls at the sight of him getting punched... but antifa protests smashing a few windows and setting trashcans on fire makes them a "terrorist organization" on par with al-Qaeda?

Richard Spencer doesn't violently attack people, while antifa does

[Minzerland II]

Good decision from New Jersy

Hopefully the federal government can follow suit

Richard Spencer openly supports ethnic cleansing, yet he gets to walk freely while liberals and right-wingers clutch their pearls at the sight of him getting punched... but antifa protests smashing a few windows and setting trashcans on fire makes them a "terrorist organization" on par with al-Qaeda?

Richard Spencer hasn't committed a crime, that is why he walks free.

[Liriena]

I'm against these unwashed loutish hooligans, but not against their banning of antifa

It's funny because, if you read the New Jersey analysis of antifa, it actually paints a pretty flattering picture of antifa:

In December 2016, a group known as the Antifascist Action-Nebraska engaged in a doxing campaign against a prominent member of American Vanguard, a white supremacist organization. The group published his personal information on several social media platforms and posted fliers on the University of Nebraska Omaha campus, calling for his expulsion.

And the same website also notes white supremacism as a continued threat, a threat which antifa explicitly aims to confront.

So... who are the baddies again?

[Washington Resistance Army]

I'm against these unwashed loutish hooligans, but not against their banning of antifa

It's funny because, if you read the New Jersey analysis of antifa, it actually paints a pretty flattering picture of antifa:

In December 2016, a group known as the Antifascist Action-Nebraska engaged in a doxing campaign against a prominent member of American Vanguard, a white supremacist organization. The group published his personal information on several social media platforms and posted fliers on the University of Nebraska Omaha campus, calling for his expulsion.

And the same website also notes white supremacism as a continued threat, a threat which antifa explicitly aims to confront.

So... who are the baddies again?

How about both of them?

[Liriena]

Richard Spencer openly supports ethnic cleansing, yet he gets to walk freely while liberals and right-wingers clutch their pearls at the sight of him getting punched... but antifa protests smashing a few windows and setting trashcans on fire makes them a "terrorist organization" on par with al-Qaeda?

Richard Spencer doesn't violently attack people, while antifa does

I'm sorry, but I find that standard unacceptable. We can clutch our pearls at antifa protestors macing and punching white supremacists as much as you wish, but there's no way you're going to convince me that those assaults are somehow more concerning and more worthy of being regarded as a terrorist threat to others than a public figure openly supporting ethnic cleansing.

[Dumb Ideologies]

I'm against these unwashed loutish hooligans, but not against their banning of antifa

It's funny because, if you read the New Jersey analysis of antifa, it actually paints a pretty flattering picture of antifa:

In December 2016, a group known as the Antifascist Action-Nebraska engaged in a doxing campaign against a prominent member of American Vanguard, a white supremacist organization. The group published his personal information on several social media platforms and posted fliers on the University of Nebraska Omaha campus, calling for his expulsion.

And the same website also notes white supremacism as a continued threat, a threat which antifa explicitly aims to confront.

So... who are the baddies again?

Wearing black and occasionally taking a moment out of the everyday violence, intimidation and vandalism to down other criminals and ne'er-do-wells in extrajudicial strikes doesn't make them the goddamn batman.