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Postby Petrolheadia » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:14 am

In this thread, I'd like you to rate the world's ideologies, from best to worst. What do you like in them? What don't you like?

Here is my list:

1. Liberalism. This ideology has a lot of good policies, like helping the people in need, or just buggering off from what they are doing in the bedroom. However, there are parts of it, like increasing corporate taxation, that I dislike.

2. Centrism. A bit worse than liberalism by the virtue of not having some of its more leftist policies, but also has some policies that liberalism is worse at.

3. Libertarianism. It may be increasing inequality, but at least makes the overall economic performance good, and carries over many liberal social policies.

4. Fascism. The conservative social mores of that ideology are not favourable, but it is able to rebuild an economy in need really well, and at least removes some problems of democracy.

5. Conservatism. Conservatives combine the inequality-inducing laissez-faire policies with overly authoritarian social mores.

6. Socialism. This ideology is to liberalism what being boiled alive is to taking a warm bath - a good concept, but taken way too far. Socialism often causes overregulation and overdependence on the state.

7. Communism. It could be a good ideology in a perfect world, but in our one, people just don't have the responsibility necessary for the collectivization.

8. Anarchism. While other ideologies at least have the structures necessary for maintaining societal order, anarchism removes them, often leading to a spike in crimes.

9. Totalitarianism. Human right abuses, overregulation, economic stagnation - you name it, you have it.

And how does such a list look for you?
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Postby Omnonia » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:36 am

Excellent (so much that ideally, a government should combine these two):
1. Socialism (redistribution of wealth so that everyone has a dignified life? sign me up!)
2. Liberalism (lukewarm in regards to redistribution of wealth. Otherwise, it's what Libertarianism could aspired to if it got rid of its rampant selfishness.)

Okay:
3. Centrism
4. Conservatism

No, thanks:
5. Communism (on paper, or with a population of angels instead of humans, it might rank 1. or 2. - but it's delusional to expect it to work in real-world practice outside of tiny communes and/or with massive oppression and corruption)
6. Libertarianism (liberty as an absolute, without ensuring to take care of the least fortunate, is not a virtue)

Oh Hell no:
7. Fascism
8. Totalitarianism (Fascism without even the justification of a "Higher Goal")
9. Anarchism (another one that can look good on paper, but with the human being we have, it's even worse than Fascism and Totalitarianism - at least those preserve some order, and a modicum of protection)
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Postby Improved werpland » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:59 pm

1. Liberalism (because I value human rights and self-determination highly)
2. Socialism (because market socialism is the ideal system for furthering social justice and self-determination without harming liberal democracy)
3. Centrism (a pragmatic, reasonable, ideology for organizing capitalist societies with, not idealistic though)
4. Anarchism (value-wise mostly fine, and a very interesting ideology, but it isn't realistic)
5. Libertarianism (flawed liberalism done the wrong way)
6. Conservatism (okay at times, capable of being very dogmatic and unjust though)
7. Communism (not good if you mean Marxism-Leninism, very totalitarian)
8. Fascism (the worst)

I didn't put totalitarianism in there because it's a political system/tendency among various ideologies and people, but not an ideology in and of itself.
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Postby Mon Ling » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:20 pm

Good:
1. Libertarianism 9/10 (Freedom is pretty nice.)
2. Liberalism 8/10 (It depends on what you're defining as liberal. Liberalism is sometimes worse than centrism.)
3. Centrism 7/10 (Not too extreme, at least.)

Not good:
4. Conservatism 4/10 (Conservatism is sometimes reasonable. But not usually.)
5. Socialism 4/10 (Usually a bad thing, although socialists seem to have good intentions.)
6. Anarchism 2/10 (Scary. Mon Ling is categorized as an anarchy, but it isn't really one because there is a government.)
7. Fascism 1/10 (Blegh. No way.)
8. Communism 1/10 (This might be above fascism. I can't decide.)
9. Totalitarianism 1/10 (Pretty much the opposite of my ideas.)
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:23 pm

1. Libertarianism
2. Centrism
3. Conservatism
4. Liberalism
5. Anarchism
6 (no specific order from here down because they're all shit). Communism
7. Fascism
8. Totalitarianism
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:46 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:In this thread, I'd like you to rate the world's ideologies, from best to worst. What do you like in them? What don't you like?

Here is my list:

1. Liberalism. This ideology has a lot of good policies, like helping the people in need, or just buggering off from what they are doing in the bedroom. However, there are parts of it, like increasing corporate taxation, that I dislike.

2. Centrism. A bit worse than liberalism by the virtue of not having some of its more leftist policies, but also has some policies that liberalism is worse at.

3. Libertarianism. It may be increasing inequality, but at least makes the overall economic performance good, and carries over many liberal social policies.

4. Fascism. The conservative social mores of that ideology are not favourable, but it is able to rebuild an economy in need really well, and at least removes some problems of democracy.

5. Conservatism. Conservatives combine the inequality-inducing laissez-faire policies with overly authoritarian social mores.

6. Socialism. This ideology is to liberalism what being boiled alive is to taking a warm bath - a good concept, but taken way too far. Socialism often causes overregulation and overdependence on the state.

7. Communism. It could be a good ideology in a perfect world, but in our one, people just don't have the responsibility necessary for the collectivization.

8. Anarchism. While other ideologies at least have the structures necessary for maintaining societal order, anarchism removes them, often leading to a spike in crimes.

9. Totalitarianism. Human right abuses, overregulation, economic stagnation - you name it, you have it.

And how does such a list look for you?


1. Conservatism
2. Centrism
3. Liberalism
4. Socialism
5. Libertarianism
6. Communism
7. Anarchy
8. Fascism
9. Totalitarianism

When it comes to your list, I think you have a grossly misinterpreted opinion of some of these ideologies. But it is decent.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:56 pm

Love
>Tsarist Autocracy
>Prussian Monarchism
>Late Japanese Empire style monarchy
>Bonapartism
>Baathism
>Sanacja (Polish interwar ideology)

Like, but have disagreements with on specifics
>Sorelianism
>Falangism (think some of their ideas on race are wonky)
>Some elements of the Iron Guard (specifically, their religious dedication to the Orthodox Church; hate their racism)
>Apostolat Social (the ideology espoused by Patriarch Justinian of Romania; disagree with the corruption that took place during it)
>National Syndicalism/Corporatism

Sympathetic to, but major disagreements with
>Italian Fascism (can't agree with palingenetic ultranationalism)
>Marxism-Leninism (DiaMat ruins any chance of me being able to agree with it)
>Confucianism
>Christian Democracy (specifically, the latter part of it)
>Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

Completely opposed to
>Liberal Democracy
>Libertarianism
>Democratic Socialism
>Social Democracy
>Maoism
>Ataturk's ideology

Should be completely destroyed
>Nazism
>Anarchism
>Anarcho-Capitalism
>Juche & Songun
>Wahabism


I don't know why everyone thinks you have to use the OP's list as the basis for your own.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:07 pm

1. Anarchism (total freedom from states, markets, and other oppressive systems that will surely kill us all one day? yes please.)
2. Communism (I'm too lazy to explain the rest of these; I might come back and do it in a bit.)
3. Socialism
4. Libertarianism
5. Liberalism
6. Centrism
7. Conservatism
8. Totalitarianism
9. Fascism (though 8 and 9 are equally hate-able, fascists themselves tend to be worse people, so they get the bottom rank)
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Postby Crylante » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:07 pm

1. Socialism - The idea of the workers owning the means of production in a co-operative society sounds rather utopian, and with gradual reform over the coming years might become a reality.
2. Communism - The name "communism" is too associated with revolution for me to properly associate with it, but I agree with quite a bit of what Marx wrote. If you're referring to the "communism" of the USSR, I am opposed to it as it replaces the elite found in capitalism with a dictatorial elite, which is just as bad.
3. Anarchism - It's a nice idea but I can't see it working in theory.
4. Liberalism - I can agree with many liberals on social issues such as LGBT rights, but I am somewhat wary of those in the liberal camp calling for deregulation.
5. Centrism - I have my concerns about centrism, but at least they are open to social change.
6. Conservatism - Conservatism is about preserving the status quo, which has many problems. It does not help my opinion that my country's conservative party has caused income inequality to increase, higher education to be unaffordable to lower-income individuals, and it has left a whole class of individuals behind.
7. Libertarianism - The mass economic deregulation libertarians propose would lead to a small elite controlling the world, any sense of equality that anyone has to be destroyed, many unemployed and so on, but it's better than other ideologies. If you're talking about libertarian socialism, however, I support it.
8=. Fascism - Fascism as an ideology is divisive and just frankly awful. It often engages in forced conformity and strict social hierarchy, which are things I detest.
8=. Totalitarianism - This is as awful as fascism. If you have to destroy one's personal freedom to stay in power, you need to look at yourself and face the fact you can't run a country.
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Postby Donut section » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:21 pm

1. Libertarianism
2. Liberalism
3.centrism
4. Conservatism
5. Anarchism
6. Fascism

The other three on your list is the same damn thing.

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Postby Community Values » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:25 pm

1. Centrism. Muh pragmatism
2. Liberalism.
3. Libertarianism. Cuz I used to be one.
4. Fascism. I like the rebirth of society and nationalism, I just don't like the dictatorial aspect and the fanatic obsession on moral degeneracy.
5. Conservatism.
6. Socialism. eh, as long as democratic and decentralized. Still has elements of class warfare that I'm not a big fan
7. Communism. Feeds off of the fear of fascist elements, and splits the nations into a bunch of different, smaller groups. Compromise should be reached between the classes, not warfare or "consciousness"
8. Anarchism. When I see an "anarchist" society that doesn't coerce its people in one way or another, I'll consider it.
9. Totalitarianism.
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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:40 pm

Community Values wrote:1. Centrism. Muh pragmatism

Saying you pick an ideology because it's pragmatic really misses the point of what an ideology is. Pragmatism only makes sense in so far as achieving a goal. Pragmatism can't decide what should be striven for, only how to strive for it.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Sun Jul 02, 2017 4:57 pm

1. Liberalism.
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2. Centrism. A bit worse than liberalism by the virtue of not having some of its more leftist policies, but also has some policies that liberalism is worse at.
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5. Conservatism.
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8. Anarchism.
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9. Totalitarianism.
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United Muscovite Nations wrote:>Late Japanese Empire style monarchy

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Postby Lady Scylla » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:11 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:In this thread, I'd like you to rate the world's ideologies, from best to worst. What do you like in them? What don't you like?

Here is my list:

1. Liberalism. This ideology has a lot of good policies, like helping the people in need, or just buggering off from what they are doing in the bedroom. However, there are parts of it, like increasing corporate taxation, that I dislike.

2. Centrism. A bit worse than liberalism by the virtue of not having some of its more leftist policies, but also has some policies that liberalism is worse at.

3. Libertarianism. It may be increasing inequality, but at least makes the overall economic performance good, and carries over many liberal social policies.

4. Fascism. The conservative social mores of that ideology are not favourable, but it is able to rebuild an economy in need really well, and at least removes some problems of democracy.

5. Conservatism. Conservatives combine the inequality-inducing laissez-faire policies with overly authoritarian social mores.

6. Socialism. This ideology is to liberalism what being boiled alive is to taking a warm bath - a good concept, but taken way too far. Socialism often causes overregulation and overdependence on the state.

7. Communism. It could be a good ideology in a perfect world, but in our one, people just don't have the responsibility necessary for the collectivization.

8. Anarchism. While other ideologies at least have the structures necessary for maintaining societal order, anarchism removes them, often leading to a spike in crimes.

9. Totalitarianism. Human right abuses, overregulation, economic stagnation - you name it, you have it.

And how does such a list look for you?


Best to Worst

1. Centrism
2. Fascism
3. Liberalism
4. Socialism
5. Libertarianism
6. Anarchism
7. Communism
8. Conservatism

Totalitarianism can be applicable to some of these.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:12 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:>Late Japanese Empire style monarchy

>Not Edo Era Shogunate style monarchy

Didn't figure you would like a military dictatorship : ^)
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Postby Anollasia » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:13 pm

Liberalism: 9/10
Centrism: 9/10
Libertarianism: 4/10
Fascism: 1/10
Conservatism: 4/10
Socialism: 8/10
Communism: 5/10
Anarchism: 2/10
Totalitarianism: 1/10

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Postby FelrikTheDeleted » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:33 pm

1. Liberalism.

2. Conservatism.

3. Centrism.

4. Libertarianism.

5. Socialism.

6. Communism.

7. Fascism.

8. Toltalitarianism.

9. Anarchism.

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Postby Sovaal » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:41 pm

Petrolheadia wrote:In this thread, I'd like you to rate the world's ideologies, from best to worst. What do you like in them? What don't you like?

Here is my list:

1. Liberalism. This ideology has a lot of good policies, like helping the people in need, or just buggering off from what they are doing in the bedroom. However, there are parts of it, like increasing corporate taxation, that I dislike.

2. Centrism. A bit worse than liberalism by the virtue of not having some of its more leftist policies, but also has some policies that liberalism is worse at.

3. Libertarianism. It may be increasing inequality, but at least makes the overall economic performance good, and carries over many liberal social policies.

4. Fascism. The conservative social mores of that ideology are not favourable, but it is able to rebuild an economy in need really well, and at least removes some problems of democracy.

5. Conservatism. Conservatives combine the inequality-inducing laissez-faire policies with overly authoritarian social mores.

6. Socialism. This ideology is to liberalism what being boiled alive is to taking a warm bath - a good concept, but taken way too far. Socialism often causes overregulation and overdependence on the state.

7. Communism. It could be a good ideology in a perfect world, but in our one, people just don't have the responsibility necessary for the collectivization.

8. Anarchism. While other ideologies at least have the structures necessary for maintaining societal order, anarchism removes them, often leading to a spike in crimes.

9. Totalitarianism. Human right abuses, overregulation, economic stagnation - you name it, you have it.

And how does such a list look for you?


1. Libertarianism. Let freedom ring! Also, take power away from the state and corporations with out destroying either would be nice.

2. Centrism. Most often centrists aren't their killing political enemies.

3. Liberalism. Somethings I like, others, not so much.

4. Socialism. Same as above.

5. Conservatism. Eh, as long as not over done it's alright. Also, in what way is this worse then fucking fascism?

6. Anarchism. Takes things to far in regards to limiting the state and others in my opinion. 'Sides that not much I really have to say.

7. Communism. In theory, alright, but enought irl attempts have gone horribly wrong to make me not trust it. Also, big gov.

8. Fucking Fascism. Yah, just no. I really am not a fan of secret police.

9. Totalitarianism. Pretty antithetical to Libertarianism, so yah no.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:46 pm

Lady Scylla wrote:
Petrolheadia wrote:In this thread, I'd like you to rate the world's ideologies, from best to worst. What do you like in them? What don't you like?

Here is my list:

1. Liberalism. This ideology has a lot of good policies, like helping the people in need, or just buggering off from what they are doing in the bedroom. However, there are parts of it, like increasing corporate taxation, that I dislike.

2. Centrism. A bit worse than liberalism by the virtue of not having some of its more leftist policies, but also has some policies that liberalism is worse at.

3. Libertarianism. It may be increasing inequality, but at least makes the overall economic performance good, and carries over many liberal social policies.

4. Fascism. The conservative social mores of that ideology are not favourable, but it is able to rebuild an economy in need really well, and at least removes some problems of democracy.

5. Conservatism. Conservatives combine the inequality-inducing laissez-faire policies with overly authoritarian social mores.

6. Socialism. This ideology is to liberalism what being boiled alive is to taking a warm bath - a good concept, but taken way too far. Socialism often causes overregulation and overdependence on the state.

7. Communism. It could be a good ideology in a perfect world, but in our one, people just don't have the responsibility necessary for the collectivization.

8. Anarchism. While other ideologies at least have the structures necessary for maintaining societal order, anarchism removes them, often leading to a spike in crimes.

9. Totalitarianism. Human right abuses, overregulation, economic stagnation - you name it, you have it.

And how does such a list look for you?


Best to Worst

1. Centrism
2. Fascism
3. Liberalism
4. Socialism
5. Libertarianism
6. Anarchism
7. Communism
8. Conservatism

Totalitarianism can be applicable to some of these.


How in the ever living fuck is fascism better than liberalism, libertarianism or conservatism?
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:47 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Lady Scylla wrote:
Best to Worst

1. Centrism
2. Fascism
3. Liberalism
4. Socialism
5. Libertarianism
6. Anarchism
7. Communism
8. Conservatism

Totalitarianism can be applicable to some of these.


How in the ever living fuck is fascism better than liberalism, libertarianism or conservatism?

I imagine someone who hates conservatism wouldn't also like fascism.
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"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The Alexandrian Polis » Sun Jul 02, 2017 5:58 pm

Like:
Anarchy
Communism
Socialism (Yes, that does include Stalin and Mao)
Leftism in general

Neutral:
Social Liberalism
Social Democracy (or the redundant term "Democratic 'Socialism'")
Centrism in general


Dislike:
Liberalism
Fascism
Conservatism
"Anarcho"-Capitalism
"Libertarianism"
American-sponsored whatever America wants it to be (Pol Pot). China could be also added to this.
Rightism in general.
Add Feminism to this despite them being more centrist.
Add Market Socialism even though it is a bit more left.




Essentially:

Like: Leftism

Neutral: Centrism

Dislike: Rightism, Feminism, and Market Socialism.




And I still deny being a Communist in real life. I think I may be lying to myself probably since I gained a bias against it after my teenage Communist phase.

Nah, still denying it.
"Imperial Socialist Republic of", "Socialist Empire of", "Socialist Imperium of", "Socialist Kingdom of", "Imperial Socialist State of", and etcetera just make absolutely no sense. Socialism's goal is Communism and Communism can't properly exist if an Imperialist power exists, especially if said nation is the Imperialist power.
Help us bring down the Supreme Authority and their allies today!
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:02 pm

The Alexandrian Polis wrote:Like:
Anarchy
Communism
Socialism (Yes, that does include Stalin and Mao)
Leftism in general

Neutral:
Social Liberalism
Social Democracy (or the redundant term "Democratic 'Socialism'")
Centrism in general


Dislike:
Liberalism
Fascism
Conservatism
"Anarcho"-Capitalism
"Libertarianism"
American-sponsored whatever America wants it to be (Pol Pot). China could be also added to this.
Rightism in general.
Add Feminism to this despite them being more centrist.
Add Market Socialism even though it is a bit more left.




Essentially:

Like: Leftism

Neutral: Centrism

Dislike: Rightism, Feminism, and Market Socialism.




And I still deny being a Communist in real life. I think I may be lying to myself probably since I gained a bias against it after my teenage Communist phase.

Nah, still denying it.


>Hates China

>Likes Mao

Also, if I remember correctly Mao's China supported the Khmer Rouge.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The Alexandrian Polis » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:09 pm

Sovaal wrote:>Hates China

>Likes Mao

Also, if I remember correctly Mao's China supported the Khmer Rouge.



> Implying Socialist Mao's China and Market Socialist (Capitalist) Deng Xiaoping's China are one and the same ideologically.
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"Imperial Socialist Republic of", "Socialist Empire of", "Socialist Imperium of", "Socialist Kingdom of", "Imperial Socialist State of", and etcetera just make absolutely no sense. Socialism's goal is Communism and Communism can't properly exist if an Imperialist power exists, especially if said nation is the Imperialist power.
Help us bring down the Supreme Authority and their allies today!
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:12 pm

The Alexandrian Polis wrote:
Sovaal wrote:>Hates China

>Likes Mao

Also, if I remember correctly Mao's China supported the Khmer Rouge.



> Implying Socialist Mao's China and Market Socialist (Capitalist) Deng Xiaoping's China are one and the same ideologically.

I'll give you that.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

”Many forms of government have been tried and will be tried in this world of sin and woe.
No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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