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Eternal Yerushalayim
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:17 am

New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:A commie said that.


Are they supposed to be infallible?

No, so you can stop quoting Reagan and saying conservatives are selfish based on that.


A rebuttal in two parts:

I've done that?

and

You admit that Regan is wrong?

He's not infallible, in anycase. But he's a much better option than revolution.
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Postby The Tofu Islands » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:18 am

Natapoc wrote:Which commies said that in this thread?

Well, (specifically to the "the goal of socialism is communism" bit, which was what e had highlighted), myself and I think someone else did earlier.

EDIT: oh, both the others who responded weren't communists. Meh.
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:18 am

Balavoria wrote:why is it getting so deep into this?

i think it's a great analogy. Socialists are people who distribute evenly (or want to). Capitalists work for what they gain and they keep what they earn.

i could go into the human nature factor but i don't think it's very relevant.


That's not what the story is saying.
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:18 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:P.S You know me. i'm Eternal Life with God.


Are you a human ?


Lots of old chat bots I used to play with used to respond to the question: Are you a hacker? with a list of information it stored on various things. There are so many bots around now that the chances of it working with this one are pretty slim.
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:19 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:He's not infallible, in anycase. But he's a much better option than revolution.


The "infallibility" only matters because the commie in question was wrong. Do you admit the Regan was wrong?
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Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:20 am

Natapoc wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:P.S You know me. i'm Eternal Life with God.


Are you a human ?


Lots of old chat bots I used to play with used to respond to the question: Are you a hacker? with a list of information it stored on various things. There are so many bots around now that the chances of it working with this one are pretty slim.

Capitalism is good.
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:20 am

New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:He's not infallible, in anycase. But he's a much better option than revolution.


The "infallibility" only matters because the commie in question was wrong. Do you admit the Regan was wrong?

Anyone who is fallible is wrong.
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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:20 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Capitalism is good.
Socialism is bad.
I'm a proud Christian.
I'm a Proud Conservative.


Okay.

So?
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:21 am

The Tofu Islands wrote:
Natapoc wrote:Which commies said that in this thread?

Well, (specifically to the "the goal of socialism is communism" bit, which was what e had highlighted), myself and I think someone else did earlier.

EDIT: oh, both the others who responded weren't communists. Meh.

Lenin.
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:21 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:He's not infallible, in anycase. But he's a much better option than revolution.


The "infallibility" only matters because the commie in question was wrong. Do you admit the Regan was wrong?

Anyone who is fallible is wrong.


Nope. Try again.

Anyone who is fallible can be wrong.
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:22 am

Collective Systems wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Capitalism is good.
Socialism is bad.
I'm a proud Christian.
I'm a Proud Conservative.


Okay.

So?

I work for Yahoo, for the greater good.
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"Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe. " -Saint Augustine
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"The first and simplest emotion which we discover in the human mind, is curiosity." -Edmund Burke

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:22 am

New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:He's not infallible, in anycase. But he's a much better option than revolution.


The "infallibility" only matters because the commie in question was wrong. Do you admit the Regan was wrong?

Anyone who is fallible is wrong.


Nope. Try again.

Anyone who is fallible can be wrong.

If you can avoid doing wrong, I would like to check your diet.
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"The first and simplest emotion which we discover in the human mind, is curiosity." -Edmund Burke

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Postby New Amerik » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:23 am

Question: Do you believe in a God that watches and moderates over us all?
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:23 am

Balavoria wrote:why is it getting so deep into this?

i think it's a great analogy. Socialists are people who distribute evenly (or want to). Capitalists work for what they gain and they keep what they earn.

i could go into the human nature factor but i don't think it's very relevant.



cap·i·tal·ist
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1. a person who has capital, esp. extensive capital, invested in business enterprises.
2. an advocate of capitalism.
3. a very wealthy person.


Please demonstrate how any 3 of these necessarily implies that the capitalist "works for what they gain and keep what they earn"
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:23 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:If you can avoid doing wrong, I would like to check your diet.


...
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?

Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.

Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.

JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:24 am

New Amerik wrote:Question: Do you believe in a God that watches and moderates over us all?

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Patrem omnipoténtem,
Factórem cæli et terræ,
Visibílium ómnium et invisibílium.
Et in unum Dóminum Iesum Christum,
Fílium Dei Unigénitum,
Et ex Patre natum ante ómnia sæcula.
Deum de Deo, lumen de lúmine, Deum verum de Deo vero,
Génitum, non factum, consubstantiálem Patri:
Per quem ómnia facta sunt.
Qui propter nos hómines et propter nostram salútem
Descéndit de cælis.
Et incarnátus est de Spíritu Sancto
Ex María Vírgine, et homo factus est.
Crucifíxus étiam pro nobis sub Póntio Piláto;
Passus, et sepúltus est,
Et resurréxit tértia die, secúndum Scriptúras,
Et ascéndit in cælum, sedet ad déxteram Patris.
Et íterum ventúrus est cum glória,
Iudicáre vivos et mórtuos,
Cuius regni non erit finis.
Et in Spíritum Sanctum, Dóminum et vivificántem:
Qui ex Patre Filióque procédit.
Qui cum Patre et Fílio simul adorátur et conglorificátur:
Qui locútus est per prophétas.
Et unam, sanctam, cathólicam et apostólicam Ecclésiam.
Confíteor unum baptísma in remissiónem peccatorum.
Et expecto resurrectionem mortuorum,
Et vitam ventúri sæculi. Amen. @2zxybc$
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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:24 am

Wasn't Eternal Life with God deleted for a reason?

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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:24 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:He's not infallible, in anycase. But he's a much better option than revolution.


The "infallibility" only matters because the commie in question was wrong. Do you admit the Regan was wrong?

Anyone who is fallible is wrong.

Main Entry: fal·li·ble
Pronunciation: \ˈfa-lə-bəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin fallibilis, from Latin fallere
Date: 15th century
1 : liable to be erroneous <a fallible generalization>
2 : capable of making a mistake <we're all fallible>
fallible =/= wrong, by definition.
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:25 am

Natapoc wrote:
Balavoria wrote:why is it getting so deep into this?

i think it's a great analogy. Socialists are people who distribute evenly (or want to). Capitalists work for what they gain and they keep what they earn.

i could go into the human nature factor but i don't think it's very relevant.



cap·i·tal·ist
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1. a person who has capital, esp. extensive capital, invested in business enterprises.
2. an advocate of capitalism.
3. a very wealthy person.


Please demonstrate how any 3 of these necessarily implies that the capitalist "works for what they gain and keep what they earn"

Investing can be considered a form of working.
"The trouble with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."-Margaret Thatcher
"Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe. " -Saint Augustine
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."-Albert Einstein
"The first and simplest emotion which we discover in the human mind, is curiosity." -Edmund Burke

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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:25 am

Collective Systems wrote:Wasn't Eternal Life with God deleted for a reason?


Check moderation. It appears however, that it just timed-out.
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Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.

JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:26 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:He's not infallible, in anycase. But he's a much better option than revolution.


The "infallibility" only matters because the commie in question was wrong. Do you admit the Regan was wrong?

Anyone who is fallible is wrong.

Main Entry: fal·li·ble
Pronunciation: \ˈfa-lə-bəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Medieval Latin fallibilis, from Latin fallere
Date: 15th century
1 : liable to be erroneous <a fallible generalization>
2 : capable of making a mistake <we're all fallible>
fallible =/= wrong, by definition.

If yoyu can be fallible and avoid doing wrong? Snatches magic potion.
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Postby Hindopia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:26 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:He's not infallible, in anycase. But he's a much better option than revolution.


The "infallibility" only matters because the commie in question was wrong. Do you admit the Regan was wrong?

Anyone who is fallible is wrong.

We all make mistakes. Does that automatically make every statement that you or I say wrong?
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:26 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Investing can be considered a form of working.


No. Investing is providing capital so that work can be done. It does not imply work on the part of the investor.
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?

Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.

Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.

JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.

Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.

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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:26 am

Impossible, he was "gone" for less than a week before he made this account. Less than a day actually, I think.

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Postby Natapoc » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:27 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Balavoria wrote:why is it getting so deep into this?

i think it's a great analogy. Socialists are people who distribute evenly (or want to). Capitalists work for what they gain and they keep what they earn.

i could go into the human nature factor but i don't think it's very relevant.



cap·i·tal·ist
   /ˈkæpɪtlɪst/ Show Spelled[kap-i-tl-ist] Show IPA
–noun
1. a person who has capital, esp. extensive capital, invested in business enterprises.
2. an advocate of capitalism.
3. a very wealthy person.


Please demonstrate how any 3 of these necessarily implies that the capitalist "works for what they gain and keep what they earn"

Investing can be considered a form of working.


Sleeping in a hammock can be considered a form of working too.
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